ยฃ3200 EV outselling Tesla Model 3 in China by 2:1

ยฃ3200 EV outselling Tesla Model 3 in China by 2:1

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Type R Tom

3,071 posts

113 months

Friday 26th February
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kambites said:
Type R Tom said:
Unless of course, we are happy to have congestion just without poor air quality.
I suppose at least congestion without the poor air quality only really hurts the people who are contributing to the congestion rather than everyone around them as well.
Agree. Can see it going that way.

bigothunter

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915 posts

24 months

Friday 26th February
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Type R Tom said:
Whilst I think it's a good idea for a cheap local journey car to be electric, it does little to solve the congestion issues in our town and cities. Many of these short journeys should convert to other methods.

Unless of course, we are happy to have congestion just without poor air quality.
Unless motorists are priced out their cars onto "affordable" public transport instead? scratchchin

Evanivitch

8,833 posts

86 months

Friday 26th February
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Mikee19 said:
Similar idea to the Japanese Kei car, won't catch on due to safety. I imagine the chances of being squashed by a SUV are much higher these day too.
Smart ForTwo has proven it can be done, but there is an investment to be made in the materials.

Throttle Body

392 posts

137 months

Friday 26th February
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It looks like an electric Smart costs at least £15k. Just think how bad a £3200 microcar will be. It will be devoid of all safety equipment, for example.

ZesPak

22,084 posts

160 months

Friday 26th February
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They go around it with the Citroen and Twizy by selling them as quadricycles.

I love the Twizy, as long as you look at it being an extremely practical and safe scooter rather than an unpractical and unsafe car, it makes a lot of sense.

aestetix1 said:
I've also noticed that British people are terrible at estimating distances, typically thinking things are 2x further away than they really are, so shorter range EVs are difficult for them to understand.
yes
Spot on AND without the usual Tesla dig clap

Not just the British though us Europeans have the same issue.

aestetix1

693 posts

15 months

Sunday 28th February
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Evanivitch said:
MG ZS sells like hot cakes. China made Tesla Model 3 are being delivered to UK. Most owners won't even realise it.
That's the key, make sure the badge doesn't say Geeley or whatever.

Having said that there are a couple of Chinese brands getting some traction in the UK, in commercial vehicles where badge snobbery doesn't factor in. In a few years they will become like Japanese brands, seen as good quality and value, maybe even luxury.

Noah EV

124 posts

3 months

Monday 1st March
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The small Chinese EV does not look like a proper car... It does not seem right to compare luxury sedan sales with that.


It's like comparing motorbike sale in Vietnam with Bentley sales.

ZesPak

22,084 posts

160 months

Monday 1st March
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Noah EV said:
The small Chinese EV does not look like a proper car... It does not seem right to compare luxury sedan sales with that.


It's like comparing motorbike sale in Vietnam with Bentley sales.
Tesla headers = clicks.

Title of the article is pure clickbait.

Noah EV

124 posts

3 months

Monday 1st March
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ZesPak said:
Noah EV said:
The small Chinese EV does not look like a proper car... It does not seem right to compare luxury sedan sales with that.


It's like comparing motorbike sale in Vietnam with Bentley sales.
Tesla headers = clicks.

Title of the article is pure clickbait.
whistle Marketing!

Evanivitch

8,833 posts

86 months

Monday 1st March
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aestetix1 said:
Evanivitch said:
MG ZS sells like hot cakes. China made Tesla Model 3 are being delivered to UK. Most owners won't even realise it.
That's the key, make sure the badge doesn't say Geeley or whatever.

Having said that there are a couple of Chinese brands getting some traction in the UK, in commercial vehicles where badge snobbery doesn't factor in. In a few years they will become like Japanese brands, seen as good quality and value, maybe even luxury.
I forgot Polestar!

BoRED S2upid

16,517 posts

204 months

Monday 1st March
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Scrump said:
Similar in concept to the Citroen Ami which costs €6000. A ‘cheap’ electric vehicle for limited range, urban speed commuting.
I’d have one of those and a proper car with an engine for longer journeys or when there’s 4 of us to transport. Cost is a huge barrier to many.

PH User

17,450 posts

72 months

Monday 1st March
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raspy said:
bigothunter said:
Could these budget EV mini cars catch on here (if they conform to EU regs)?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-3-saic...
Doubt it. Too much badge snobbery and prejudice against cars made in china.
You see loads of cars on the road with "crap" badges so that's obviously not a problem.

Register1

859 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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I would,

Absolutely buy one if RHD and UK compliant
Don't look to bad for a city run about.

Wife does 2 miles to work,
I am 4 miles to work,

So a no brainer for one of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ytqr8T05OU&ab...




https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/01/0...

Wuling
The current best-selling car in China is the Wuling HongGuang Mini EV, which costs an incredibly low $4,200. The Mini EV can only do 62mph and lasts a mere 124 miles on a single charge, but you might not need or want more in a suburban or urban environment. Wuling doesn’t appear to have any plans to sell the Mini EV outside of China, but it shows what kind of rock-bottom prices could be unleashed in Europe or the USA, even if higher safety regulations in those regions would push the cost up. If Wuling does release the Mini EV in Europe or the USA in 2021, it could be the cheapest EV around by a very large margin.

Edited by Register1 on Wednesday 3rd March 17:07


Edited by Register1 on Wednesday 3rd March 17:16

ZesPak

22,084 posts

160 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Have a look at the Citroën Ami if it comes to the UK...

jjwilde

1,904 posts

60 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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This kind of thing is ideal for local delivery, takeaways etc.

Register1

859 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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jjwilde said:
This kind of thing is ideal for local delivery, takeaways etc.
Absolutely.
And for anyone just a mile or two from work,
All week on a full charge of 25 pence

Register1

859 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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And who is going to say no to this beauty
150kWh battery, and 1000km range



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bigothunter

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915 posts

24 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Register1 said:
And who is going to say no to this beauty
Not at £2,500,000 each thanks laugh



jjwilde

1,904 posts

60 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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I mean isn't the Tesla Roadster2 only like £120k and has 620 miles of range?