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MattsCar said:
The Prius which someone else mentioned (just looked it up) looks great! And has more "Lamborghini" influence than that MG.
Really? I think of Lamborghini's defining styling characteristic being somewhat derivative in overall form but massively over-styled in the details, which describes the MG pretty well. The Prius is classically pretty (there's a sentence I never thought I'd type!) which to my mind is very much not the Lamborghini way and hasn't really been since the Miura. The MG4 is certainly more interesting to look at than the obvious competition such as the ID3, Cupra Born and Nissan Leaf. That does rather feel like damning with faint praise though.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 1st June 08:44
A colleague has one.
So far:
He left it charging in the hotel car park, all fine. The following morning, 2% charge due to an "unknown fault". AA required to recover it to dealership for fix
Another occasion, the main battery charged successfully, but a fault somewhere else caused the 12v battery to go flat: AA required, dealership fixed after 3 days.
A few weeks later on a drive to a client site, it simply stopped with 60% charge showing, AA required to recover to dealer - no fault found, they just 'performed a reset' and handed it back - after 8 days.
All of this between February and April this year.
I think I'll give this a miss. Logically: it's cheap for a reason.
So far:
He left it charging in the hotel car park, all fine. The following morning, 2% charge due to an "unknown fault". AA required to recover it to dealership for fix
Another occasion, the main battery charged successfully, but a fault somewhere else caused the 12v battery to go flat: AA required, dealership fixed after 3 days.
A few weeks later on a drive to a client site, it simply stopped with 60% charge showing, AA required to recover to dealer - no fault found, they just 'performed a reset' and handed it back - after 8 days.
All of this between February and April this year.
I think I'll give this a miss. Logically: it's cheap for a reason.
Lester H said:
Good on MG for getting pricing semi realistic! Just to anticipate anti- Chinese calls, how many drivers of newish cars know how many components in these are made in China ( or India) ?
There's a difference though in parts made in China to the specs of European or Japanese drawings and the so called "cheap Chinse" parts. The Chinese have got some catching up to do but they're doing it at a seriously impressive rate. Look at when Top Gear went to China. That was 2011/2012 time and the cars were pretty awful. Now they're a viable option to purchase. Cheap Chinese motorbikes are doing the same. 2015 bikes were still using carburettors that were poorly copied from an 80's Honda design. Now they're everywhere. My local dealership is selling numerous brands. They've taken over Benelli, Royal Enfield and a handful of other known brands. We're definitely in for a Chinese revolution. My only concern (as discussed on the MG HS thread), is will the company actually stand behind the product with the warranty. The HS ticked an awful lot of boxes, the plugin especially being impressively quick (I thought at least), but currently a fair number of horror stories related to warranty claims being either ignored or out right refused.
I could live with an all electric vehicle and the MG's look fairly good, until you scratch below the surface (or in one case, take a photo under the car!)
edit: Magnum 475 post above being a good example!
I could live with an all electric vehicle and the MG's look fairly good, until you scratch below the surface (or in one case, take a photo under the car!)
edit: Magnum 475 post above being a good example!
Bluemondy said:
but currently a fair number of horror stories related to warranty claims being either ignored or out right refused.
I think the nature of the internet tends to skew these things. I have no experience of MG either way, but I do have a fair bit of experience of Kia (via my parents' Picanto) and whilst the internet is full of horror stories about them refusing to honour their warranty yet my parents have had no problems whatsoever on the rare occasion they've had to use it. If you compare the stories about MGs to those about other mainstream brands, they don't really seem to be any better or worse in terms of either reliability or customer service.
Edited by kambites on Friday 2nd June 10:09
They just look a bit odd, not ugly or pretty, just odd and ill-proportioned. They would benefit from larger wheels to balance it out a bit.
We visited our local dealer twice but never took a test drive, the Mrs took an instant dislike to it. The SE model is keenly priced but poorly equipped and we briefly considered a Trophy, but with metallic paint it's over £33k. The interior is a bit dowdy too.
We found a six month old Cupra Born V2 with only 1k miles for just over £31k and bought that instead three weeks ago. Very happy with it.
Plenty MG4s kicking about now though. My work (NHS) has quite a few for the community nurses. They previously had electric Corsas.
We visited our local dealer twice but never took a test drive, the Mrs took an instant dislike to it. The SE model is keenly priced but poorly equipped and we briefly considered a Trophy, but with metallic paint it's over £33k. The interior is a bit dowdy too.
We found a six month old Cupra Born V2 with only 1k miles for just over £31k and bought that instead three weeks ago. Very happy with it.
Plenty MG4s kicking about now though. My work (NHS) has quite a few for the community nurses. They previously had electric Corsas.
MustangGT said:
Where do you get £584? The quote shows £189.
He's including the £10k deposit I assume. It always seemed thoroughly misleading (if not dishonest) advertising this sort of deal as "£189 a month" to me when it's really nothing of the sort. You might as well simply put a cash-only offer up and then advertise it as "£0 a month!!". Not a dig at MG, just the general state of the market.
anonymous said:
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The MG5 is a bit of an odd one because of the massive discount they did when they were new. Around the covid recovery they were offering them to public service workers (or anyone it turned out really as the link was so tenuous or not checked up on). List price was £27-30k if memory serves me right, but I am sure my Dad bought one for £21k in 2021 in pov spec via the tenuous public sector worker thing.The cheapest 21 plate on autotrader that has done average mileage (30k) is £16k. 25% in 2 years seems fairly typical, but agree it looks like it has tanked if you take the RRP of £27k (41%).
The RRP is probably higher now because the battery pack is bigger, and inflation.
At £16k its half tempting if you think they will honour (properly) the 8 year battery warranty. It would give you 6 years of battery related comfort. For my usage the range works well, but the car is a bit small for our family. I use an old 5 series touring instead.
kambites said:
The MG4 is starting to trickle into the used market now too, by the looks of it. I think a six-month old car at £22-23k makes a lot more sense than a new one at £27k. By the end of the year I'd imagine you'll be able to get one for under £20k.
And thats where the EV will start creeping in to more private buyers who arent either company car drivers, early adopters and/or wealthy, a stretch to twenty something vs befuddlement at 40, 50, 60 100 plus grand stuff.People may accept some of the limitations of an EV more readily, if they dont have to remortgage to get one and its not completely useless like cheaper end Leafs with sub 100 mile ranges. Can see a lot of retired folk buying MG's, dont need to do huge mileage, cheap to run, quite compelling.
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