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ChocolateFrog said:
Describing it as a heavy vibration is a gross over exaggation.
You can't really make that comment unless you've driven multiple cars.There was somebody on the MG forum who said people were being unreasonable in their descriptions of the fault.
Right up until the point someone else took them out in their car to demonstrate. It does seem like the problem varies significantly between vehicles.
Mine was produced in 2023, but steady state vibrations would probably not even have been noticed by me unless I'd read the forums beforehand. So I'm one of the lucky ones. (Mine seems to give a quiet heavy vibration at times under hard acceleration though, but this isn't really an issue).
CoolHands said:
Subsidised by the CCP. Nice
Indeed.The same applies to any Geely product - Smart; Volvo; Polestar; Lotus. I'm sure there's more.
Or we could drive Tesla vehicles, run by an actual Nazi enthusiast.
Or we could delve into the politics of supplying weapons to Israel and intelligence reconnaissance.
I'm not defending or justifying anything, merely pointing out we take advantage of things - in this case, a decent, new car for ridiculous value for money - for our own selfish reasons.
Paul_M3 said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Describing it as a heavy vibration is a gross over exaggation.
You can't really make that comment unless you've driven multiple cars.There was somebody on the MG forum who said people were being unreasonable in their descriptions of the fault.
Right up until the point someone else took them out in their car to demonstrate. It does seem like the problem varies significantly between vehicles.
Mine was produced in 2023, but steady state vibrations would probably not even have been noticed by me unless I'd read the forums beforehand. So I'm one of the lucky ones. (Mine seems to give a quiet heavy vibration at times under hard acceleration though, but this isn't really an issue).
mikey_b said:
Usually an out of balance wheel is only felt at motorway speeds. Is it possible that some cars have a shaky drivetrain and a minor vibration, and a small number have thrown a wheel weight and have similar but more dramatic symptom from a different cause?
It's possible but they changed all four tyres on mine and then lied about road testing itDid not make any difference
Customers in France and Australia are receiving the full fix
My x power does the whole vibration thing between 60 -75mph. Enough that you'd end up with white finger after a prolonged period and the sound is akin to a jet engine spooling up in mid air flight.
Other gripes are creaks from steering column area and a rattling boot.
It is cheap s
te, make no mistakes. But it is bloody fast, I'll give it that. Drives nice as well
Other gripes are creaks from steering column area and a rattling boot.
It is cheap s
te, make no mistakes. But it is bloody fast, I'll give it that. Drives nice as well mikey_b said:
Usually an out of balance wheel is only felt at motorway speeds. Is it possible that some cars have a shaky drivetrain and a minor vibration, and a small number have thrown a wheel weight and have similar but more dramatic symptom from a different cause?
No. The thread about vibrations is at 57 pages on the forum I’m talking about. People have tried re-balancing, different wheels, and various other things. This includes also getting some dealers to experiment and who agree that the vibrations are unacceptable.
Picked up the XPower today. What a lovely place to be - smooth, relaxing to drive and when you want to, you can be in the next postcode precisely one second after you've thought about pressing full throttle.
That's coming from a Fiesta 1l EcoBoost for 8 years. Anything is going to feel more refined, fast and an upgrade in comparison.
Hard to argue with the value for money though - £24,400. Brand new - 0 mileage. Racing green (matte finish). Heated wheel, heated seats are lovely especially for low back pain.
That's coming from a Fiesta 1l EcoBoost for 8 years. Anything is going to feel more refined, fast and an upgrade in comparison.
Hard to argue with the value for money though - £24,400. Brand new - 0 mileage. Racing green (matte finish). Heated wheel, heated seats are lovely especially for low back pain.
That's astonishing value for the performance really. I hope you enjoy it and proves to be reliable.
I appreciate you can't really compare but it's on par with an IONIQ 5N (in a straight line) and that's a relative bargain too, but almost 3x the MG.
I'm not into modifying cars but that's crying out for a brake and suspension upgrade, from the reviews I've seen.
I appreciate you can't really compare but it's on par with an IONIQ 5N (in a straight line) and that's a relative bargain too, but almost 3x the MG.
I'm not into modifying cars but that's crying out for a brake and suspension upgrade, from the reviews I've seen.
FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:
Picked up the XPower today. What a lovely place to be - smooth, relaxing to drive and when you want to, you can be in the next postcode precisely one second after you've thought about pressing full throttle.
That's coming from a Fiesta 1l EcoBoost for 8 years. Anything is going to feel more refined, fast and an upgrade in comparison.
Hard to argue with the value for money though - £24,400. Brand new - 0 mileage. Racing green (matte finish). Heated wheel, heated seats are lovely especially for low back pain.
Incredible bargain. My Tesla M3P was substantially more than twice the price and definitely isn't twice the car judging by my friend's MG4 Trophy.That's coming from a Fiesta 1l EcoBoost for 8 years. Anything is going to feel more refined, fast and an upgrade in comparison.
Hard to argue with the value for money though - £24,400. Brand new - 0 mileage. Racing green (matte finish). Heated wheel, heated seats are lovely especially for low back pain.
Zero Fuchs said:
That's astonishing value for the performance really. I hope you enjoy it and proves to be reliable.
I appreciate you can't really compare but it's on par with an IONIQ 5N (in a straight line) and that's a relative bargain too, but almost 3x the MG.
I'm not into modifying cars but that's crying out for a brake and suspension upgrade, from the reviews I've seen.
Firstly, great choice of car - I'm a big fan of the IONIQ 5N.I appreciate you can't really compare but it's on par with an IONIQ 5N (in a straight line) and that's a relative bargain too, but almost 3x the MG.
I'm not into modifying cars but that's crying out for a brake and suspension upgrade, from the reviews I've seen.
I'm sure I've seen a similar comment/video of someone who has done just that in the Australian market and supposedly it was a big improvement over the standard car - not something I feel is necessary just yet, but I'll keep an eye on it nevertheless.
I've just driven 180 miles back home - my first time driving an EV long-distance, so I was deliberately driving at 60mph in lane 1; I got home with 20 miles to spare (set off at 99%/230 miles range). Couple of bumps up to 70mph when overtaking to not impede anyone approaching behind. Heated seats on the whole way. Eco mode dulls the performance but it really has no trouble keeping up with traffic. Kept it in low regen mode as 95% of the route was DC/motorway and didn't want the brake lights illuminating every time I gently lifted off the throttle.
What a fantastic car for the money, may I say!
Initial thoughts on good things I like:
-the performance. All of it. No histrionics, just puts the power down and does a great trebuchet impression of flinging you towards the horizon;
- the infotainment screen has loads of interesting/useful info and settings like the power consumption readout, the regeneration readout, the power deployment animation; the sat nav and cameras are good too.
- I like being able to tailor the regeneration modes; my personal favourite is the 'medium' setting. Doing 60mph, as I'm passing the 300 yard marker sign, I lift off - not touching the brakes - and it regens the car down to approximately 25-30mph as I enter the roundabout, so I don't even have to touch the brakes.
- The automatic full beam assist is brilliant. I'm sure there are even better systems, but it's pretty damn good. LED headlights are bloody lovely (sorry, oncoming traffic!).
- How refined the car feels (both in terms of powertrain and NVH) - but I did drive a Fiesta Black Edition for 8 years;
- How useful the speed limit warning is (albeit really annoying sometimes as it reminds you even 1mph over the limit); the cross traffic/blindspot monitoring is a nice-to-have; the 360 cameras are excellent too!
Bad things:
- Lack of visibility through the rear window with the centre headrest hugely obscuring the view;
- The rigmarole of turning off the driver aids every time you get in the car, instead of having a single button push that defaults it to your chosen settings.
I'm sure I've got so much more to discover and enjoy about this car - please do share any tips and tricks!
Ha, I'd love the IONIQ 5N but in my dreams 
. I've a more humble i3s, which is great but not quite there speed/acceleration wise!
Great write-up and have to say, whilst EVs get labeled as white goods or only good for the daily grind, I think that's nonsense personally. What you describe is what I find so enjoyable and satisfying about EV ownership. Ok so I also have ICE for fun but actually, when I'm in my EV I don't yearn for a gearbox or the noise. It's the lack of gear and noise that I find so satisfying. It's the effortless, refinement and ease of driving that does it for me.
Could I live without my ICE? I don't know and probably not. But the EV is not a substandard substitute by any means.
. I've a more humble i3s, which is great but not quite there speed/acceleration wise!Great write-up and have to say, whilst EVs get labeled as white goods or only good for the daily grind, I think that's nonsense personally. What you describe is what I find so enjoyable and satisfying about EV ownership. Ok so I also have ICE for fun but actually, when I'm in my EV I don't yearn for a gearbox or the noise. It's the lack of gear and noise that I find so satisfying. It's the effortless, refinement and ease of driving that does it for me.
Could I live without my ICE? I don't know and probably not. But the EV is not a substandard substitute by any means.
FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:
- The rigmarole of turning off the driver aids every time you get in the car, instead of having a single button push that defaults it to your chosen settings.
Ours went in for its first-year check-over recently and that included updating the firmware. It might just be my imagination, but the "driver aids" seem to be far less trigger-happy now. The reason for not having a single button push to switch off the driver aids is, I believe, that if it's too easy to disable them, NCAP will not take the features into account when grading the car.
ETA: I think most people just take the centre head-rest out.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 20th March 10:55
kambites said:
FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive said:
- The rigmarole of turning off the driver aids every time you get in the car, instead of having a single button push that defaults it to your chosen settings.
Ours went in for its first-year check-over recently and that included updating the firmware. It might just be my imagination, but the "driver aids" seem to be far less trigger-happy now. The reason for not having a single button push to switch off the driver aids is, I believe, that if it's too easy to disable them, NCAP will not take the features into account when grading the car.
ETA: I think most people just take the centre head-rest out.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 20th March 10:55
TheDeuce said:
BMW got around the 'single button' dilema by allowing driver aids to be linked to their customisable favourites buttons. So you set it up yourself to turn things off with a button tap.
I'm not sure NCAP allow that anymore? EuroNCAP said:
To be eligible for scoring points in ELK, the ELK part of the LSS system needs tobe default ON at the start of every journey and deactivation of the system should not be possible with a momentary single push on a button.
Although that reads like it's fine to disable it by holding down a single button, or I guess by double-tapping a button. Edited by kambites on Thursday 20th March 11:12
kambites said:
TheDeuce said:
BMW got around the 'single button' dilema by allowing driver aids to be linked to their customisable favourites buttons. So you set it up yourself to turn things off with a button tap.
I'm not sure NCAP allow that anymore? EuroNCAP said:
To be eligible for scoring points in ELK, the ELK part of the LSS system needs tobe default ON at the start of every journey and deactivation of the system should not be possible with a momentary single push on a button.
Although that reads like it's fine to disable it by holding down a single button. It's a bit like saying a computer isn't safe because it can be used to orchestrate a crime. I don't see how ncap can complain at a button that doesn't by default contravene their safety standards, even if the end user can make changes to the setup to achieve that function.
At best, that's a grey area and there's a good chance ncap never even made the link.
On my car (Kia EV3) it needs long presses of of 2 different buttons to turn off lane keep assist and speed warning sounds.
The driver attention warnings need a button press and a screen tap to turn off.
The first 2 get disabled on every drive. The latter actually works well, so I leave it on.
The other systems, like autonomous braking, work fine, so I've left them active.
The driver attention warnings need a button press and a screen tap to turn off.
The first 2 get disabled on every drive. The latter actually works well, so I leave it on.
The other systems, like autonomous braking, work fine, so I've left them active.
kambites said:
Although that reads like it's fine to disable it by holding down a single button, or I guess by double-tapping a button.
My Dacia Spring requires a double press of a dedicated button for this - presumably working around these requirements Edited by kambites on Thursday 20th March 11:12
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