Le Mans 2021

Le Mans 2021

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24lemons

2,380 posts

143 months

Monday 18th May
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I can’t see how you could hold the race on the Bugatti circuit and still expect it to have any of the status that the normal race does.

Yes it it would be a 24 hour race in Le Mans but it wouldn’t be the Le Mans 24 hours.

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Monday 18th May
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24lemons said:
I can’t see how you could hold the race on the Bugatti circuit and still expect it to have any of the status that the normal race does.

Yes it it would be a 24 hour race in Le Mans but it wouldn’t be the Le Mans 24 hours.
I totally agree with you. But I don't get why the bike Le Mans is held in such high esteem being on the Bugatti Circuit - to me its one of the most uninspiring circuits in existence - yet it has such high prestige in the Endurance bike racing world, just because it is "Le Mans" - I'm baffled.

The Isle of Man TT races scaled down a couple of classes onto a very short circuit a few years ago, and despite various objections awarded full TT wins to the victors because it was classed as a TT, run by the TT organisers.

It would be a real shame, all I'm saying is it must surely be one of the realistic options - it was someone else who suggested it might be an idea. I think they're right that it could happen

24lemons

2,380 posts

143 months

Monday 18th May
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wsn03 said:
I totally agree with you. But I don't get why the bike Le Mans is held in such high esteem being on the Bugatti Circuit - to me its one of the most uninspiring circuits in existence - yet it has such high prestige in the Endurance bike racing world, just because it is "Le Mans" - I'm baffled.

The Isle of Man TT races scaled down a couple of classes onto a very short circuit a few years ago, and despite various objections awarded full TT wins to the victors because it was classed as a TT, run by the TT organisers.

It would be a real shame, all I'm saying is it must surely be one of the realistic options - it was someone else who suggested it might be an idea. I think they're right that it could happen
I really don’t know anything about bikes so I don’t know. I would imagine that the Le Mans 24 hours name holds a lot of prestige which probably brushes off on events like the bikes, trucks or even karts and roller skating 24 hours.

I think that holding the car event on a lesser track, especially as a one off due to extreme measures, wouldn’t fly In most people’s views. I think they’d be better off cancelling the event.

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Monday 18th May
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24lemons said:
wsn03 said:
I totally agree with you. But I don't get why the bike Le Mans is held in such high esteem being on the Bugatti Circuit - to me its one of the most uninspiring circuits in existence - yet it has such high prestige in the Endurance bike racing world, just because it is "Le Mans" - I'm baffled.

The Isle of Man TT races scaled down a couple of classes onto a very short circuit a few years ago, and despite various objections awarded full TT wins to the victors because it was classed as a TT, run by the TT organisers.

It would be a real shame, all I'm saying is it must surely be one of the realistic options - it was someone else who suggested it might be an idea. I think they're right that it could happen
I really don’t know anything about bikes so I don’t know. I would imagine that the Le Mans 24 hours name holds a lot of prestige which probably brushes off on events like the bikes, trucks or even karts and roller skating 24 hours.

I think that holding the car event on a lesser track, especially as a one off due to extreme measures, wouldn’t fly In most people’s views. I think they’d be better off cancelling the event.
Fully agree. Competitors may prefer Bugatti vs nothing. ACOs bank manager would probably agree.

I hope the full event runs with social distancing in place with a vaccine in full swing. We can but hope.

I watched the bike race on the Bugatti circuit - while the race was amazing, walked the whole circuit and found it very very dull. In fact its the dullest bike track I've ever been to!

You're right about the whole association thing, that is the explanation I was given by someone in the bike racing world


Edited by wsn03 on Monday 18th May 15:53

LawrieC

247 posts

62 months

Monday 18th May
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The Bugatti circuit is the pit straight and Dunlop, plus 3 big hairpins and some big esses. Completely different type of circuit

Tyre Smoke

15,266 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th May
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And a bike takes up far less space than a car. Plus all the support vehicles and stuff is parked on the Bugatti circuit. Where is that going to go?

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Tuesday 19th May
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Tyre Smoke said:
And a bike takes up far less space than a car. Plus all the support vehicles and stuff is parked on the Bugatti circuit. Where is that going to go?
yes agree on the space issue. There will be plenty of empty car parks for support vehicles if they were to keep fans out.

Be very interested to know if Bugatti circuit is used for one of the tests, because if it is then it becomes a possibility- and a very dissapointing one if so

Tyre Smoke

15,266 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th May
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No. It isn't.

All the Le Mans 24 is done on the full circuit. All the support stuff is all over the Bugatti about a month before race weekend.

OFORBES

406 posts

58 months

Tuesday 19th May
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We decided to move our booking to 2021. Even if September happens, I don't think its going to be anywhere near as good as it'll be quiet and the atmosphere won't be the same

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Tuesday 19th May
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Tyre Smoke said:
No. It isn't.

All the Le Mans 24 is done on the full circuit. All the support stuff is all over the Bugatti about a month before race weekend.
Ok, so they've not used it. The track does look pretty narrow and tight, hopefully it will not be considered as an option

Tyre Smoke

15,266 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th May
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I think they only race bikes and possibly karts on it, don't they?

chasingracecars

1,679 posts

55 months

Tuesday 19th May
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Any testing during Le Mans week is either done during the session or on the airport. Usually on the runway.

After Le Mans week teams may use the Bugatti circuit for testing.

LawrieC

247 posts

62 months

Tuesday 19th May
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Tyre Smoke said:
I think they only race bikes and possibly karts on it, don't they?
AND the 24 hour truck race, so it can't be that tight. There are a couple of other car races, Porsche supercup, and formula Renault and odd events. I'm sure they had a Grand Prix there years ago, but the hairpins are monotonous.

//j17

3,562 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th May
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DTM about 10 years ago.

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Tuesday 19th May
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LawrieC said:
Tyre Smoke said:
I think they only race bikes and possibly karts on it, don't they?
AND the 24 hour truck race, so it can't be that tight. There are a couple of other car races, Porsche supercup, and formula Renault and odd events. I'm sure they had a Grand Prix there years ago, but the hairpins are monotonous.
From Wikipedia:

The circuit also holds French motor club races and in the past has hosted rounds of the International Formula 3000 Championship and DTM (German Touring Car series).

As well as motor racing it is the venue for the 24 rollers, a 24h race on inline skates or quads.

The Bugatti Circuit was used for the 1967 French Grand Prix, 

EDIT

 It also forms the final round of the FIA European Truck Racing Championship, and was part of the World Series by Renaultand 1988 Superbike World Championship seasons.


Edited by wsn03 on Tuesday 19th May 16:23

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Monday 5th October
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The main media are touting vaccine roll out mainstream by Spring of next year, but restrictions in place for up to 12 months after that.
I'd expect once a good proportion of the population have a vaccine (if it works) there will be normal service albeit with dispensers, warning signs, arrows, plastic screens, and lots of people wearing masks (some for forever I expect)

Thoughts?

davidd

6,099 posts

242 months

Monday 5th October
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wsn03 said:
The main media are touting vaccine roll out mainstream by Spring of next year, but restrictions in place for up to 12 months after that.
I'd expect once a good proportion of the population have a vaccine (if it works) there will be normal service albeit with dispensers, warning signs, arrows, plastic screens, and lots of people wearing masks (some for forever I expect)

Thoughts?
With the infection rate at 16,000 today and rising we'll all have had it and be here or dead by next June.

wsn03

1,527 posts

59 months

Wednesday 7th October
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davidd said:
With the infection rate at 16,000 today and rising we'll all have had it and be here or dead by next June.
Can't argue with that!

fatboy18

18,260 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th October
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And le man's will probably consist of all electronic cars

Can't wait until they go driverless rofl

//j17

3,562 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th October
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fatboy18 said:
Can't wait until they go driverless rofl
Naa, won't happen.


I mean you've got to have someone on board to do the ALT+CTRL+Del reset when it goes wrong.