2021 - Don't get too excited

2021 - Don't get too excited

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cn7k7

213 posts

143 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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lowdrag said:
It's hard getting a grip on daily statistics because they seem to bunch a few days together which distorts things, but looking at this month there are, as of yesterday, 400,000 more active cases than at the end of March - 4.2 million on 31/3 and 4.6 million yesterday. Not looking at all healthy.
From what I can see the vaccination take up rate is around 56% and hence the ‘good news’ of jabs for 55+ now, trouble is the rate needs to be at least 60% to be nationally effective. The prediction, even at this low take up rate, appears to be August to November for those 30+. In Switzerland it is worse, most people won’t get vaccinated until 2022. I hate the terminology in this case but at present the UK seems to have lost the battle but winning the war, just hope EU catches up soon or new variants will develop and come bouncing back over here for a new battle and drag mainland Europe further into the crap

Troubling times

eps

6,272 posts

268 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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lowdrag said:
It's hard getting a grip on daily statistics because they seem to bunch a few days together which distorts things, but looking at this month there are, as of yesterday, 400,000 more active cases than at the end of March - 4.2 million on 31/3 and 4.6 million yesterday. Not looking at all healthy.
Personally I only look at the 7 day rolling average, which should smooth out any inconsistencies and provide an indication of the trend.

Can't see it happening this year (with fans) frown

LawrieC

563 posts

103 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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At the UKs peak in Jan/Feb we only had 2-3 million cases, and whilst lockdown is brutal, with the vaccine we're now down to 2-300,000, but my wife still won't go out of the house.

The next problem seems to be that many bars and restaurants may not reopen next month. Trade from office workers and tourists etc has disappeared. My local pubs were all shut before the virus happened

wsn03

1,923 posts

100 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Well its not all bad according to France 24

"French nationals and residents 55 and above will have access to the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccines starting Monday...."

AND

"France's vaccine rollout is hitting its stride after a glacial start, reaching a target of 10 million first doses a week ahead of a mid-April target. The government aims to deliver another 10 million first shots by mid-May....."


So they are using Astra Zenica despite the politics, and they are speeding up the rollout.
My eyes and hopes rest on a return to normal 2022 - at the current rate looks a bit iffy, but hopefully they'll get their act together. Hope the whole of Europe gets this current mess sorted

delta0

2,334 posts

105 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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wsn03 said:
Well its not all bad according to France 24

"French nationals and residents 55 and above will have access to the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccines starting Monday...."

AND

"France's vaccine rollout is hitting its stride after a glacial start, reaching a target of 10 million first doses a week ahead of a mid-April target. The government aims to deliver another 10 million first shots by mid-May....."


So they are using Astra Zenica despite the politics, and they are speeding up the rollout.
My eyes and hopes rest on a return to normal 2022 - at the current rate looks a bit iffy, but hopefully they'll get their act together. Hope the whole of Europe gets this current mess sorted
Either no one is taking the vaccines in France or the government is just moving through the age groups without doing all the ones before. They have only vaccinated 16% of the population which means there are a lot of older and vulnerable groups that are higher priority than 55 year olds that have not had a vaccine.

rev-erend

21,404 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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My mum is 72, lives in the Vendee and has been invited to call a number for the jab..

Got passed around a lot. Hung on for an hour and gave up..

wsn03

1,923 posts

100 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I'll get me coat...

slartibartfast

4,014 posts

200 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I hope the ACO tell us this month whether spectators are allowed or not, the suspense is killitng me!

ewand

775 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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slartibartfast said:
I hope the ACO tell us this month whether spectators are allowed or not, the suspense is killitng me!
I wouldn't hold your breath, unless they come out earlier with "non".

https://www.24h-lemans.com/en/news/a-packed-24-hou...
ACO said:
In the current climate, the ACO is setting out to host a safe event, with all necessary precautions in place to produce top-notch racing. More details on the schedule, ticketing and spectator access will be released in May.

ecsrobin

17,019 posts

164 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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slartibartfast said:
I hope the ACO tell us this month whether spectators are allowed or not, the suspense is killitng me!
I think the answers pretty clear.

Genuine Barn Find

5,782 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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It is what it is (and what it will be). I was gutted that we didn’t get to go last year..... if it’s a double roll over i’ll be beside myself.

‘But’..... i did enjoy watching the race live on Eurosport last year..... as did my 3 year old. Assuming it’s not going to be open to spectators, my positive aim is to be sat on the sofa in front of the TV, just as the sun sets over the circuit, beer in hand and two car obsessed little boys sat either side of me, excited that they’ve been allowed to stay up and watch fast cars with Daddy.

There’s always next year - and 2022 should be an absolute belter.

df76

3,614 posts

277 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Genuine Barn Find said:
It is what it is (and what it will be). I was gutted that we didn’t get to go last year..... if it’s a double roll over i’ll be beside myself.

‘But’..... i did enjoy watching the race live on Eurosport last year..... as did my 3 year old. Assuming it’s not going to be open to spectators, my positive aim is to be sat on the sofa in front of the TV, just as the sun sets over the circuit, beer in hand and two car obsessed little boys sat either side of me, excited that they’ve been allowed to stay up and watch fast cars with Daddy.

There’s always next year - and 2022 should be an absolute belter.
The saviour is that the TV coverage is excellent / ad free, plus decent radio commentary. 2022 will be busy, and 2023 will be total madness.

rev-erend

21,404 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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rev-erend said:
My mum is 72, lives in the Vendee and has been invited to call a number for the jab..

Got passed around a lot. Hung on for an hour and gave up..
Update on this - she now has a date for these .. 18th and 20th May with the Phizer jab.

Gives a bit of an idea how far France is behind the UK.


LawrieC

563 posts

103 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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This does seem a muddle. I've got nothing against your mum, but shouldn't she have the cheaper AZ vaccine as she's over 55 (but I'm sure she doesn't look it). Perhaps they have shedloads of Pfizer now. The J&J vaccine seems to have been suspended, due to clots, even though you've a better chance of being run over on the way to get the jab

lowdrag

12,869 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Rather off topic, but did you see on the news this morning that with the Olympics supposedly 14 weeks away that less than 1% of the population of Japan has been vaccinated?

Pupp

12,205 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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lowdrag said:
Rather off topic, but did you see on the news this morning that with the Olympics supposedly 14 weeks away that less than 1% of the population of Japan has been vaccinated?
Yep; picked up on that, and that the general population seem to be against the games being held. Going to be odd for those participating; what a bitter sweet conclusion to all that training and dedication.

Vette_1978

3,235 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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df76 said:
The saviour is that the TV coverage is excellent / ad free, plus decent radio commentary. 2022 will be busy, and 2023 will be total madness.
Just on that subject. Did they announce that the tv coverage is now being done by L’Equipe, or something like that, so it’s on free to air tv. Does this mean Eurosport are no longer carriers, or is this just a French thing?

df76

3,614 posts

277 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Vette_1978 said:
df76 said:
The saviour is that the TV coverage is excellent / ad free, plus decent radio commentary. 2022 will be busy, and 2023 will be total madness.
Just on that subject. Did they announce that the tv coverage is now being done by L’Equipe, or something like that, so it’s on free to air tv. Does this mean Eurosport are no longer carriers, or is this just a French thing?
I'm pretty certain that'll just be a French thing, with Eurosport still providing UK coverage. You can get Eurosport just for a month if wanted..

rev-erend

21,404 posts

283 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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LawrieC said:
This does seem a muddle. I've got nothing against your mum, but shouldn't she have the cheaper AZ vaccine as she's over 55 (but I'm sure she doesn't look it). Perhaps they have shedloads of Pfizer now. The J&J vaccine seems to have been suspended, due to clots, even though you've a better chance of being run over on the way to get the jab
I'm sure its like the UK. You don't get a choice.

lowdrag

12,869 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Have you seen that Peter Auto are running an event on the Bugatti circuit on the first weekend in July now? Seems incredible that they are committing themselves to this in ten weeks time.