Crit’Air

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RallyChamp

117 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th April
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My own experiences and findings..

I have 1990 911 for which there is no sticker (No 'Euro' designation for vehicles pre-1992). So no chance of a Euro2 sticker. Any vehicle any age with no CAT fails also. With that in mind I intended last year to take the 'industrial' route south once crossing the river. However, I missed the turning and ended up going through the city centre instead. Some fretting had. Half way through I had in my rear mirror two gendarmes on motorcycles with sirens and lights - thought that was it, I'm done. But, they didn't give me a second look - rode straight past! Looking at the amount of old French bangers driving around it looked like no-one bothers [shrugged shoulders].

What is in place are a whole bunch of Crit'Aire exemptions (typically from large commercial vehicles, military to disableds etc). In there however, is a 'collector' exemption for vehicles older than 30 years.

This year I'll probably do the same. On a separate note I hear often that since Brexit there is no data sharing agreement, meaning zone camera-caught cars from UK have no link to owner details. I guess you need in that case to be caught red-handed by the gendarme (if they're not at lunch).

Interested in anyone else's recent 'classic' experiences

FredericRobinson

3,821 posts

234 months

Tuesday 30th April
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RallyChamp said:
My own experiences and findings..

I have 1990 911 for which there is no sticker (No 'Euro' designation for vehicles pre-1992). So no chance of a Euro2 sticker. Any vehicle any age with no CAT fails also. With that in mind I intended last year to take the 'industrial' route south once crossing the river. However, I missed the turning and ended up going through the city centre instead. Some fretting had. Half way through I had in my rear mirror two gendarmes on motorcycles with sirens and lights - thought that was it, I'm done. But, they didn't give me a second look - rode straight past! Looking at the amount of old French bangers driving around it looked like no-one bothers [shrugged shoulders].

What is in place are a whole bunch of Crit'Aire exemptions (typically from large commercial vehicles, military to disableds etc). In there however, is a 'collector' exemption for vehicles older than 30 years.

This year I'll probably do the same. On a separate note I hear often that since Brexit there is no data sharing agreement, meaning zone camera-caught cars from UK have no link to owner details. I guess you need in that case to be caught red-handed by the gendarme (if they're not at lunch).

Interested in anyone else's recent 'classic' experiences
The industrial route meaning past the railway yards?
That’s within the Critair zone isn’t it?

Truckosaurus

11,526 posts

286 months

Tuesday 30th April
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FredericRobinson said:
The industrial route meaning past the railway yards?
That’s within the Critair zone isn’t it?
Yes, they expanded the zone to cover pretty much the whole city (originally it was just the centre, so through traffic was OK).


FredericRobinson

3,821 posts

234 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Truckosaurus said:
Yes, they expanded the zone to cover pretty much the whole city (originally it was just the centre, so through traffic was OK).

That's what I thought, last year I went out via Yvetot and then came back through my usual route (ex brown cow roundabout and the railway marshalling yards) without consequences, who knows if there'll be any enforcement this year, I'm intending to Yvetot it both ways this year.

RallyChamp

117 posts

193 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Truckosaurus said:
Yes, they expanded the zone to cover pretty much the whole city (originally it was just the centre, so through traffic was OK).
Correct. The Bvd Industrial D18E I think was on the zone border then and the tunnel entering the city was outside too. My other option, I've used in the past, is the river ferry at La Bouille. This is an anti-clockwise round the top of Rouen then straight down to the La Bouille. Looking at the zone map now (and the blue 'all-access' routes across the zone) it looks like you van cut through on the D43.

Maybe wait for someone on the PH forum to feedback earlier in race week. I personally am less concerned than I was in the past (he says..)

size13

2,032 posts

259 months

Wednesday 1st May
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It's about £4 to get a sticker and the website is in english, probably cheaper than the extra fuel to divert around Rouen.
https://certificat-air.gouv.fr/

NDA

21,761 posts

227 months

Wednesday 1st May
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size13 said:
It's about £4 to get a sticker and the website is in english, probably cheaper than the extra fuel to divert around Rouen.
https://certificat-air.gouv.fr/
I already have a Crit'Air - but thought I'd take a look at the process again (in advance of maybe adding another car).

Is that site borked? It looks incredibly more complex/unfathomable since I last looked and applied.

Truckosaurus

11,526 posts

286 months

Wednesday 1st May
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size13 said:
It's about £4 to get a sticker and the website is in english, probably cheaper than the extra fuel to divert around Rouen.
https://certificat-air.gouv.fr/
Although if you have too polluting a car then you'll have to re-route, sticker or not.

Aysedasi2

551 posts

19 months

Wednesday 1st May
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NDA said:
I already have a Crit'Air - but thought I'd take a look at the process again (in advance of maybe adding another car).

Is that site borked? It looks incredibly more complex/unfathomable since I last looked and applied.
I found it exceptionally easy.

size13

2,032 posts

259 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Truckosaurus said:
Although if you have too polluting a car then you'll have to re-route, sticker or not.
I forgot they still exist biglaugh
I'm a crit'air 3 though

LawrieC

579 posts

106 months

Wednesday 1st May
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size13 said:
I forgot they still exist biglaugh
I'm a crit'air 3 though
Rouen is 3 but may be a 2 next year. Be warned, it can only get worse

And if you hire a car in France, does it have a Crit'air sticker? Of course not grumpy

RallyChamp

117 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd May
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size13 said:
It's about £4 to get a sticker and the website is in english, probably cheaper than the extra fuel to divert around Rouen.
https://certificat-air.gouv.fr/
Agreed. But not for any pre '92 vehicle - there is no sticker. Relying solely then on any exemption interpretation.

WhyTwo

1,126 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I've got my Crit'Air sticker for my TVR (Orange 3).

I'm not inclined to stick it on my windscreen. I like the clean look of the windscreen with no stickers or road tax etc. I'd rather not have it on there permanently for the sake of a 30 minute journey through Rouen on the way back from Le Mans once a year.

Do you think it would be enough to have the sticker in the car with the rest of my documents should I get pulled over?

Truckosaurus

11,526 posts

286 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I would have thought so - as people are OK using the email confirmation in lieu of stickers.

df76

3,669 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Truckosaurus said:
I wonder if anyone (non-French) has actually been fined for not having a sticker?

Are there any zones with any sort of automatic tracking?
I don't see that there can be any automatic tracking with the sticker regime. I witnessed staff (not police) physically checking parked cars in Reims, but it also doesn't very likely that they would be pulling cars over... unless they suddenly decided to cause some traffic chaos.

WhyTwo

1,126 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Truckosaurus said:
I would have thought so - as people are OK using the email confirmation in lieu of stickers.
Cool. Thx. That's what I was hoping

RallyChamp

117 posts

193 months

Friday 3rd May
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This time last year the regional zones were talking about the zone borders entry points all having cameras with automatic fine posting. Doubt that has occured (except maybe Paris by now). And as said, pulling over non-UK cars mid traffic or at junctions isn't going to win over the locals.

RobbyJ

1,587 posts

224 months

Friday 3rd May
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As I said on this topic last year on the way back from LM in Rouen there were several Police, a couple with binos(not a speed gun) checking for Crit'Air stickers. They pointed at the ones in our windows and waved us past.

I guess from this thread that these checks are rare but since it's been brought in I have a 50% hit rate of being checked for the sticker.

Vsix and Vtec

713 posts

20 months

Friday 3rd May
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I took my Ford Capri 2.8 Injection to Le Mans classic last year, obviously with no sticker, as it doesn't even have catalytic converter. I think the time of day must have been in my favour, as I was able to roar through the centre of Rouen totally unimpeded or sanctioned by any authorities.

Barryr750

2 posts

13 months

Thursday 9th May
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WhyTwo said:
I've got my Crit'Air sticker for my TVR (Orange 3).

I'm not inclined to stick it on my windscreen. I like the clean look of the windscreen with no stickers or road tax etc. I'd rather not have it on there permanently for the sake of a 30 minute journey through Rouen on the way back from Le Mans once a year.

Do you think it would be enough to have the sticker in the car with the rest of my documents should I get pulled over?
Like you I don't like stickers on the glass, however it is a requirement to display it on the bottom corner of the windscreen drivers (UK) side.
I've put mine on a small piece of clear perspex which I blutack to the inside of the screen, so it can be removed when not in France.