Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 9)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol 9)

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Aston100

31 posts

9 months

Monday 14th June
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raspy said:
A couple of things to bear in mind about this car, some of which apply to any PHEV;
1. You may not get close to the advertised range, even if you drive super gently
2. If you're not going to charge the car regularly, you've got a small petrol engine lugging around that extra weight, which is not ideal
3. It's got a slow onboard charger of 3.6kw, so you can charge using a 3 pin plug, or a wall box or a slow public charger, but you won't be able to use "rapid" chargers which are 50kw and up.

3 hrs and 42 minutes to charge at a slow public charging point/wallbox at home or 6 hours using a 3 pin plug at home
Thank you.
My gut feel is that PHEVs are a pointless middle ground right now and I should wait for a deal on a comparable fully electric vehicle.
However, this Cupra is available right now (well 4-5 weeks for delivery I'm told) whereas the only deals I can see on EVs are the Ioniq, Leaf and Kona deals that just don't stop. All three of those are unsuitable for me!

Thanks.


raspy

516 posts

61 months

Monday 14th June
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Aston100 said:
Thank you.
My gut feel is that PHEVs are a pointless middle ground right now and I should wait for a deal on a comparable fully electric vehicle.
However, this Cupra is available right now (well 4-5 weeks for delivery I'm told) whereas the only deals I can see on EVs are the Ioniq, Leaf and Kona deals that just don't stop. All three of those are unsuitable for me!

Thanks.
They are not a pointless middle ground. PHEVs are designed for specific use cases, so if it doesn't fit your use case, then find something that does. The last thing you want is to be so desperate for a deal in the short term that you choose a car in haste that you won't get along with.

Catflap2

128 posts

72 months

Monday 14th June
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Aston100 said:
raspy said:
A couple of things to bear in mind about this car, some of which apply to any PHEV;
1. You may not get close to the advertised range, even if you drive super gently
2. If you're not going to charge the car regularly, you've got a small petrol engine lugging around that extra weight, which is not ideal
3. It's got a slow onboard charger of 3.6kw, so you can charge using a 3 pin plug, or a wall box or a slow public charger, but you won't be able to use "rapid" chargers which are 50kw and up.

3 hrs and 42 minutes to charge at a slow public charging point/wallbox at home or 6 hours using a 3 pin plug at home
Thank you.
My gut feel is that PHEVs are a pointless middle ground right now and I should wait for a deal on a comparable fully electric vehicle.
However, this Cupra is available right now (well 4-5 weeks for delivery I'm told) whereas the only deals I can see on EVs are the Ioniq, Leaf and Kona deals that just don't stop. All three of those are unsuitable for me!

Thanks.
PHEVs can make sense, depends on which one you go for and where you do the mileage. If you have a shortish commute through town where you can pretty much run on electric only but then do a longer trips at the weekend etc then they can work well which is exactly why we just got one. However loads get purchased as company cars as their weighted CO2 emissions are typically very low but then they drive them pretty much on petrol so just a way of reducing Tax liability.

Hg93

54 posts

9 months

Monday 14th June
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Catflap2 said:
Aston100 said:
raspy said:
A couple of things to bear in mind about this car, some of which apply to any PHEV;
1. You may not get close to the advertised range, even if you drive super gently
2. If you're not going to charge the car regularly, you've got a small petrol engine lugging around that extra weight, which is not ideal
3. It's got a slow onboard charger of 3.6kw, so you can charge using a 3 pin plug, or a wall box or a slow public charger, but you won't be able to use "rapid" chargers which are 50kw and up.

3 hrs and 42 minutes to charge at a slow public charging point/wallbox at home or 6 hours using a 3 pin plug at home
Thank you.
My gut feel is that PHEVs are a pointless middle ground right now and I should wait for a deal on a comparable fully electric vehicle.
However, this Cupra is available right now (well 4-5 weeks for delivery I'm told) whereas the only deals I can see on EVs are the Ioniq, Leaf and Kona deals that just don't stop. All three of those are unsuitable for me!

Thanks.
PHEVs can make sense, depends on which one you go for and where you do the mileage. If you have a shortish commute through town where you can pretty much run on electric only but then do a longer trips at the weekend etc then they can work well which is exactly why we just got one. However loads get purchased as company cars as their weighted CO2 emissions are typically very low but then they drive them pretty much on petrol so just a way of reducing Tax liability.
Would you recommend a hybrid to someone who doesnt reeallly have access to charging. I was looking at the leon xcellence from zen auto but i live in a terrace are so wont really be charging. Is there any point getting a hybrid then??

teggs11

8 posts

35 months

Monday 14th June
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agentmoulder said:
teggs11 said:
I think they look really smart, ive ordered one through Arnold Clark Affinity

Quoted : A3, 35 TFSI, Auto, Edition 1, C&S pack, Daytona Grey, 1+35 profile, 8k pa, no maintenance, £293/month + £200 fee.
@teggs11 - Any chance you can share the link? I have an Arnold Clark Affinity account, but don't seem to be able to find this offer. Thanks in advance.
I’m not sure if the price is still valid now. Coming up at £307 when I search

https://autocentre.acvm.com/affinity/vehicle/26579...

Try emailing Chris McKean direct and ask if he can match.


agentmoulder

2 posts

1 month

Monday 14th June
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teggs11 said:
agentmoulder said:
teggs11 said:
I think they look really smart, ive ordered one through Arnold Clark Affinity

Quoted : A3, 35 TFSI, Auto, Edition 1, C&S pack, Daytona Grey, 1+35 profile, 8k pa, no maintenance, £293/month + £200 fee.
@teggs11 - Any chance you can share the link? I have an Arnold Clark Affinity account, but don't seem to be able to find this offer. Thanks in advance.
I’m not sure if the price is still valid now. Coming up at £307 when I search

https://autocentre.acvm.com/affinity/vehicle/26579...

Try emailing Chris McKean direct and ask if he can match.
Much appreciated. Price is now showing as £307 with Solid - Ibis White paint. Looks like Pearl - Daytona Grey paint is an extra £575 too, taking it to £322.33. Will see if I can get a price match.

WRumbled

323 posts

194 months

Monday 14th June
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raspy said:
A couple of things to bear in mind about this car, some of which apply to any PHEV;

2. If you're not going to charge the car regularly, you've got a small petrol engine lugging around that extra weight, which is not ideal
I see this repeated quite often but it really isn't how it works. I 'never' charge my PHEV and it is a very rare occasion I don't have full power, and those occasions are a few seconds on a morning when the car was parked with minimal charge in the battery the night before (sometimes days before in my case). The system is regenerative. The car will charge the battery without being plugged in. Do not let this point put you off buying a PHEV.

Aston100

31 posts

9 months

Monday 14th June
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WRumbled said:
I see this repeated quite often but it really isn't how it works. I 'never' charge my PHEV and it is a very rare occasion I don't have full power, and those occasions are a few seconds on a morning when the car was parked with minimal charge in the battery the night before (sometimes days before in my case). The system is regenerative. The car will charge the battery without being plugged in. Do not let this point put you off buying a PHEV.
Really? The Cupra Leon PHEV will fully recharge the battery via the petrol engine?
If so, that may suit my purposes after all

hepy

831 posts

107 months

Monday 14th June
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James-kdlil said:
I’m returning my Cupra in a few weeks to Ald automotive frown. I have some curb rash on a quarter of one of the alloy wheels and a stone chip on windscreen about the size of a 5p or slightly smaller. Would those who have leased before through these guys advise getting the work done before returning or take the hit when I return it. Shall I get the windscreen replaced through insurance?

Cheers
James
Sent mine back to them this time last year. Excellent to deal with.

Get a copy of their damage guide, and take a photo of any damage, with a ruler next to it, or one of the templates from the guide.

As long as the damage is smaller than the guidelines , should be no charge. Mine had scabby wheels and a small dent on one door, both were within their tolerance and no charge.

Ps, as usual take loads of pictures of the car, wheels and panels.


WRumbled

323 posts

194 months

Monday 14th June
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Aston100 said:
WRumbled said:
I see this repeated quite often but it really isn't how it works. I 'never' charge my PHEV and it is a very rare occasion I don't have full power, and those occasions are a few seconds on a morning when the car was parked with minimal charge in the battery the night before (sometimes days before in my case). The system is regenerative. The car will charge the battery without being plugged in. Do not let this point put you off buying a PHEV.
Really? The Cupra Leon PHEV will fully recharge the battery via the petrol engine?
If so, that may suit my purposes after all
No, it won't fully charge the battery, but it will keep it charged enough to maintain 'full power'. You won't be lugging around the extra weight for nothing. Appreciate it's a different car, but I manage 36mpg in my 530e. I consider that to be pretty good for a boat of car that has a book 0-60 of 6.2 seconds.

Dog Star

12,747 posts

135 months

Monday 14th June
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hepy said:
James-kdlil said:
I’m returning my Cupra in a few weeks to Ald automotive frown. I have some curb rash on a quarter of one of the alloy wheels and a stone chip on windscreen about the size of a 5p or slightly smaller. Would those who have leased before through these guys advise getting the work done before returning or take the hit when I return it. Shall I get the windscreen replaced through insurance?

Cheers
James
Sent mine back to them this time last year. Excellent to deal with.

Get a copy of their damage guide, and take a photo of any damage, with a ruler next to it, or one of the templates from the guide.

As long as the damage is smaller than the guidelines , should be no charge. Mine had scabby wheels and a small dent on one door, both were within their tolerance and no charge.

Ps, as usual take loads of pictures of the car, wheels and panels.
I’ve yet to see a case where getting the wheels done yourself is worth it. It’s usually miles cheaper to let the lease company bill you, in my experience they mostly don’t, you don’t need to endure the hassle etc.

Franco5

25 posts

26 months

Monday 14th June
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iambigred said:
Has anyone had any experience of leasing a car via NHS Fleet Solutions ( https://www.nhsfleetsolutions.co.uk ?). My wife is eligible for this scheme via her employer (local government, not even NHS). You need to have a login to the website to view pricing.

There are some great deals on there, mainly for electric vehicles. All the prices below also include insurance for 4 drivers/servicing/tyres/breakdown.

Been looking at the AUDI E-TRON 300kW 55 Quattro 95kWh Technik 5dr Auto. £339.79pm (1+35, 6k miles)

All of the below are also on the same terms

HYUNDAI KONA 150kW Premium 64kWh 5dr Auto - £225pm. Available June.
MERCEDES-BENZ EQA EQA 250 140kW AMG Line 66.5kWh 5dr Auto - £335pm. Available July.
VOLKSWAGEN ID.3 150kW Life Pro Performance 62kWh 5dr Auto - £235pm. Available June.
Thats unbelievable if true the E-tron is over £70k list how can they do that at £340? A lot of NHS schemes are salary sacrifice so as an EV this will be near zero BIK.

okram1

29 posts

46 months

Monday 14th June
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Vinnieb88 said:
Anyone got any experience of Returning a lease car to VWFS with a small chip in the windscreen? Were they bothered and was it expensive?
got rejected by the inspection people ...first of all we were told that if it wasn't in the line of sight for the driver a repair would be fine but they rejected the repair and we had it replaced by the repair people (Autoglass or similar) ..I think it was a courtesy replacement because their first repair wasn't deemed acceptable other wise it would have been an insurance windscreen claim

Jazzert501

47 posts

57 months

Monday 14th June
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Hg93 said:
Catflap2 said:
Aston100 said:
raspy said:
A couple of things to bear in mind about this car, some of which apply to any PHEV;
1. You may not get close to the advertised range, even if you drive super gently
2. If you're not going to charge the car regularly, you've got a small petrol engine lugging around that extra weight, which is not ideal
3. It's got a slow onboard charger of 3.6kw, so you can charge using a 3 pin plug, or a wall box or a slow public charger, but you won't be able to use "rapid" chargers which are 50kw and up.

3 hrs and 42 minutes to charge at a slow public charging point/wallbox at home or 6 hours using a 3 pin plug at home
Thank you.
My gut feel is that PHEVs are a pointless middle ground right now and I should wait for a deal on a comparable fully electric vehicle.
However, this Cupra is available right now (well 4-5 weeks for delivery I'm told) whereas the only deals I can see on EVs are the Ioniq, Leaf and Kona deals that just don't stop. All three of those are unsuitable for me!

Thanks.
PHEVs can make sense, depends on which one you go for and where you do the mileage. If you have a shortish commute through town where you can pretty much run on electric only but then do a longer trips at the weekend etc then they can work well which is exactly why we just got one. However loads get purchased as company cars as their weighted CO2 emissions are typically very low but then they drive them pretty much on petrol so just a way of reducing Tax liability.
Would you recommend a hybrid to someone who doesnt reeallly have access to charging. I was looking at the leon xcellence from zen auto but i live in a terrace are so wont really be charging. Is there any point getting a hybrid then??
Unless, as mentioned above it's a company car that would be a big no!
Just had 3 years in a 330e, best on electric 17 miles ,last months of use 13 miles.
Had free charging at work and charged every day but wouldn't do it again,mucking about with manky cables in the rain for 13 miles is not worth it.
If the range was a reliable 50 miles it might make sense but all claimed figures are seldom realistic.
Not worth the bother in my opinion. Best thing about it was the tax savings.


Edited by Jazzert501 on Monday 14th June 23:16

Vinnieb88

20 posts

2 months

Monday 14th June
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okram1 said:
Vinnieb88 said:
Anyone got any experience of Returning a lease car to VWFS with a small chip in the windscreen? Were they bothered and was it expensive?
got rejected by the inspection people ...first of all we were told that if it wasn't in the line of sight for the driver a repair would be fine but they rejected the repair and we had it replaced by the repair people (Autoglass or similar) ..I think it was a courtesy replacement because their first repair wasn't deemed acceptable other wise it would have been an insurance windscreen claim
Cheers, might as well just get my insurance to fix it it’s only £25 excess

Brian_the_Snail

92 posts

221 months

Monday 14th June
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Golf R update - new lease arrived on time this morning and as specified (metallic blue and heated front seats) supplied by Hollie at Lister VW at Stratford Upon Avon. Funded by VWFS on 3+23 for 10k per annum at £417 per month. Very pleased with Hollie and Listers clap

ib170

129 posts

60 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Franco5 said:
Thats unbelievable if true the E-tron is over £70k list how can they do that at £340? A lot of NHS schemes are salary sacrifice so as an EV this will be near zero BIK.
As you say, it's salary sacrifice so that includes an individual's tax, NI and pension savings.

For reference, the Gross monthly figure before any salary sacrifice savings is £562 per month on the terms quoted.


JuanGandini

1,353 posts

106 months

Tuesday 15th June
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Alfredo20 said:
Anyone ever tried to return 3/4 months early with VWFS?
I handed my vRS Octavia back approximately 3 months early. VWFS gave me a price to pay for the remaining monthlies (from memory I think it was around 50% of monthly payments remaining) and that was that. It saved me having to get the car's second service too before I collected my next lease so actually made some level of financial sense (almost!)

pezbing

8 posts

1 month

Tuesday 15th June
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Aston100 said:
Thinking of going for the eHybrid Cupra Leon estate deal mentioned upthread.
Can anyone advise whether you can charge a PHEV at a public fast charger such as a supermarket, or at a motorway? or are you limited to charging with a 3 pin at home? or something elsE?
Not really clued up on PHEVs unfortunately.

The deal looks good so just need clarification on the battery charging aspect before I go ahead or not.
Thanks.
I'm toying with the idea of going for this, or potentially this -

https://www.simpsonsskoda.co.uk/pch-offers/june-oc...

Am new to PHEV too; useful to see others' opinions on them. Definitely work for me and my day-to-day travel requirements.

lenny6582

15 posts

44 months

Tuesday 15th June
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ib170 said:
Franco5 said:
Thats unbelievable if true the E-tron is over £70k list how can they do that at £340? A lot of NHS schemes are salary sacrifice so as an EV this will be near zero BIK.
As you say, it's salary sacrifice so that includes an individual's tax, NI and pension savings.

For reference, the Gross monthly figure before any salary sacrifice savings is £562 per month on the terms quoted.
They have worked a good price with Audi as they bought so many in bulk so its a combination of that and the BIK, obviously there is a slight reduction in your pension as it reduces your gross salary