Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 21]

[dscam]

Swervin_Mervin said:

W00DY said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235303256579

Handsome.

Lovely.

My Dad had a TXE Executive and took it to 285k. It was still going but he was under pressure to change I think, as parts were getting scarce and he'd already started having issues - ISTR one was oil making its way down the loom and into the ecu, but I can't recall why.

That’s a seriously impressive tally in a UK Renault as rust would tend to be the enemy even before any technical maladies.

On the subject of the advertised car, the inclusion of a Feu Orange air freshener is simply top-drawer *chef’s kiss*

[RUI488]

BenS94 said:

bolidemichael said:

macron said:

Oof, so close to three in a row.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023012836...

On since Jan.....

The last two MOTs / 3,000 miles were free of advisories, I wonder why it hasn't sold? I really like it!

£675 tax might have something to do with it...

I dare say that’s putting most off. It’s 30% of the cars asking price to tax it for a year.
I think £495 was psychologically more acceptable to a lot of folk as “it’s under £500” but once you get to c£700/annum you need a strong stomach for that.

I’d run one of them (if it wasn’t for the road tax) as i quite like the look but they don’t look half as good as the 406 Coupe; so i’d probably plonk for that.

Edited by RUI488 on Wednesday 22 November 07:11

[Truckosaurus]

Indeed. You'd really have to be a Peugeot fanboy to buy it, or have a fleet of cars so you can SORN it over the winter.

Or buy a years' tax up front and pretend it is actually was a £3000 car with £200 tax, and then sell it before you have to re-new.

[W00DY]

The tax means it's a £1k car to me. Even if you can stomach it, you won't be able to find someone to buy it when you're bored. Who thought this faux-carbon was a good ides?



Parts will be hard to come by as will good information on issues and how to fit various parts when compared to German stuff and all for a car that really isn't anything special.

A nice 605 however would be worth the headache.

[QBee]

What happend to your passenger if you press the "P OFF" button?

[Bear-n]

There needs to be some kind of civil unrest over car tax rates. Not for us fantasists that want to one-handed steer some ridiculous motor, prob as a second car, but more for those that have a £395 bracket normal car that they can’t afford to replace (nor need to) and keep getting hammered year on year by tax increases because it’s an easy target and no mainstream media is going to defend it, because it would require more than a 5 word strap line. So every year they get pummelled for more tax whilst watching everyone sell water in 500ml bottles without penalty (pick your environmental damaging topic of choice), because - well - who knows. These people are mostly just middle income or lower, so can afford tax increases the least.

Nowhere else can I think of that you can buy a long term purchase for thousands of pounds and is then made worthless by taxation a few years down the line. It’s chuffing mental.

[rider73]

are these 330d considered bargey yet? lorra lorra miles on those turbos but looks pretty tidy

[BenS94]

rider73 said:

are these 330d considered bargey yet? lorra lorra miles on those turbos but looks pretty tidy

That looks like local trader, with LT in the name... expect many undisclosed issues, he buys them off the Suzuki Garage he works at, puts an MOT on and sells them.

Edit: it's not, just seems to have been photographed in the same place! Seems a little expensive, but looks alright.

Edited by BenS94 on Wednesday 22 November 09:27

[andburg]

dscam said:

Swervin_Mervin said:

W00DY said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235303256579

Handsome.

Lovely.

My Dad had a TXE Executive and took it to 285k. It was still going but he was under pressure to change I think, as parts were getting scarce and he'd already started having issues - ISTR one was oil making its way down the loom and into the ecu, but I can't recall why.

That’s a seriously impressive tally in a UK Renault as rust would tend to be the enemy even before any technical maladies.

On the subject of the advertised car, the inclusion of a Feu Orange air freshener is simply top-drawer *chef’s kiss*

Dad had a 2.0 GTS and to this day he maintains it was the best car we ever had for the family, just did everything.

Shame that txe is an auto

[Swervin_Mervin]

W00DY said:

A nice 605 however would be worth the headache.

Sadly, I believe there are almost none left. Well, with a worthwhile engine. We bought a 605 V6 SVE in '07 to do the Scumball Rally and it's the only car I regret selling. If I'd had a barn somewhere it would have been stored. It was an utterly magnificent thing.

[king arthur]

QBee said:

What happend to your passenger if you press the "P OFF" button?

I'm more interested in what the button on the right does. Could it be for automatically opening garage doors for you, even ones that don't belong to you? Or is it for lining the car up between goalposts when playing car football?

[bolidemichael]

Swervin_Mervin said:

W00DY said:

A nice 605 however would be worth the headache.

Sadly, I believe there are almost none left. Well, with a worthwhile engine. We bought a 605 V6 SVE in '07 to do the Scumball Rally and it's the only car I regret selling. If I'd had a barn somewhere it would have been stored. It was an utterly magnificent thing.

Isn’t this the model so highly praised by the erstwhile PHer, Loin King, Bishop?

[rider73]

BenS94 said:

rider73 said:

are these 330d considered bargey yet? lorra lorra miles on those turbos but looks pretty tidy

That looks like local trader, with LT in the name... expect many undisclosed issues, he buys them off the Suzuki Garage he works at, puts an MOT on and sells them.

Edit: it's not, just seems to have been photographed in the same place! Seems a little expensive, but looks alright.

Edited by BenS94 on Wednesday 22 November 09:27

thanks for the headsup - i've just been in touch - singing the 330d praises, can do 300,000 you know.... - however sketchy on the servicing done - he's had it less than a year, and done his own oil and filter. i suspect its the "buy a 330d for a hoot and when the big service comes around, flick it on..."

[GeniusOfLove]

rider73 said:

thanks for the headsup - i've just been in touch - singing the 330d praises, can do 300,000 you know.... - however sketchy on the servicing done - he's had it less than a year, and done his own oil and filter. i suspect its the "buy a 330d for a hoot and when the big service comes around, flick it on..."

To be fair the big service is only big if you go to the BMW dealer. What can possibly need doing beyond fluids and filters?

I spent a quite happy day changing ATF and diff oil on one of my cars, changing brake fluid, changing coolant, along with all the usual filters and fluids. By most buyers dumbass metric that makes my car less appealing and more poorly maintained than one with a stamp and £600 dealer invoice for an oil, filter, cabin filter, and air filter "service". One car will crap out it's gearbox early because it's never had fluid changed, one won't. I suppose you can dry your eyes with the stacks of rip off dealer invoices when you're waiting for the scrap man.

I'd have no issue with a home serviced car if it presents well and drives fine, neglected dogs are very easy to spot.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 22 November 10:55

[trevalvole]

A 150k CLS500 with a clean MOT on nicely manicured gravel: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296063005928

[deadtom]

Jader1973 said:

Having remembered where this thread was hidden, I have a barge related question.

2009 Audi C6 4F All Road V6 turbo diesel.

Massive bork factor or a relatively safe purchase? Is the air suspension problematic? Anything else?

Ad is here - yes it is more expensive than a UK car but cheapish for down here (only 7 for sale in the whole of Oz).

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2009-audi...

Edited by Jader1973 on Tuesday 21st November 07:29

I had a pre facelift (2006) one of these up until recently which I believe is mechanically identical

It regularly broke in a cheap to medium expense sort of way, but never left me stranded.

Oddly, the air suspension is one thing that I didn't have trouble with, but it is definitely a known thing to look out for, though I think the previous C5 generation are worse for this. When I bought it it would list to starboard a bit if left for a few days which had me looking up prices of rear air bags and sweating a little, however changing the battery (died of old age) sorted this out and it never fell over again.

The timing chain on these is on the back of the engine and therefore is an engine out job to do. I ran mine up to 195000 miles and it was just starting to display symptoms of chain wear (slight rattle when starting from warm). I think conscientious owners tend to get the chain done around 150k miles, but I like to live dangerously.

a nice car when it was working though, and I would (and probably will) have another one at some point. I bought mine cheap and it was a little ropey so on the plus side it allowed me to forgive it for a lot of the smaller things that broke, however it was frustrating that in my car I only really got to experience 80% of what it should be. If/when I have another one it'll be newer and better condition; a well sorted one would be a brilliant car.

[RUI488]

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

[BenS94]

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

[bolidemichael]

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

[tr7v8]

bolidemichael said:

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

THey aren't chromed, just polished. Originals are anodised which is difficult & expensive to replicate.