EVs... no one wants them!
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Leicesterdave said:
If you're thinking of trading in your EV anytime soon don't bother!
2 VW dealers this am wouldn't touch my Cupra Born. I have never in 23 years had a dealer refuse to take my car in part exchange, never!
Dealers simply don't want EVs and I have to admit that of course it's scaring me as I need to sell but the loss is far too great to bear.
I hope the situation improves over the next 6 months or so....
Quite a few Savvy ID3 buyers got out of theirs last year on the groups. They were selling for thousands over list price and I did think at the time that there was no way that would last. 2 VW dealers this am wouldn't touch my Cupra Born. I have never in 23 years had a dealer refuse to take my car in part exchange, never!
Dealers simply don't want EVs and I have to admit that of course it's scaring me as I need to sell but the loss is far too great to bear.
I hope the situation improves over the next 6 months or so....
Edited by Leicesterdave on Wednesday 1st February 11:23
Quite a few seem to have either gone ID4/5 or Born though so they won't be repeating the trick.
Bear in mind that the HMRC rate for electricity is 5p and many companies will only pay that. There is no ability to claim the 45p/25p balance like there is with wet fuel. That and the increased cost make them unfavourable if doing any meaningful mileage.
I had a massive fight with my old FD about the cost of charging when doing a 500 mile day for work. Partly why I left - run by Septic accountants, price of everything, value of nothing....
When I left October last year, my 18 month old 35,000 mile M3LR was priced by WBAC and M'way at £47,000. Black Horse offered it to me at £48,000. it's a £52,000 car (red so a £2k option).
Cazoo price just now £25,000!!!
That's a dynamic market!!
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Joey Deacon said:
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PurpleFox said:
£2.80 to top up from 0 to 80% are you sure? Depends on the car model and your tariff of course but if you had a P100d, that's 80kwh from 0 to 80% so £27.20 at todays capped rate of 34p per kwh.
Mine is the Model 3 SR+ so 50 kWh approx. Using Octopus Go.Cheap overnight tariff is pretty common. Even working from home we shift 40% off-peak and save a fair bit.
Off-street parking definitely helps. I'd personally not want to run two EV's without.
It looks like the public charging infrastructure is lagging the demand for EVs, but it will catch up. Charging infrastructure in cities is interesting - it will improve, but how much is necessary is another question; car ownership is already very low, and will on-demand hire take over for longer trips, or other times a vehicle is needed?
It's a fact oft rolled out, but most people don't travel very far by car on a daily basis. Those that need an ICE for their daily 200+ miles can keep one for a long time to come.
number2 said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Leicesterdave said:
bennno said:
What do WBAC offer?
£24k.Bought for £36k in August.
Dave Hedgehog said:
number2 said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
Leicesterdave said:
bennno said:
What do WBAC offer?
£24k.Bought for £36k in August.
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rallye101 said:
Doesn't it currently cost roughly £50 for an 80% top up of teslas at motorway services? This is what scared me off...that and winter range in cold temperatures
No, it doesn’t.Current cost is around 41p/kWh so that’s around £16. Not that you’d ever charge from zero. And if course home charging would still cost in the region of £2.80 for the same 0-80%
41p is close to the domestic rate unless we're talking something like Octopus Go's night rate.
Most fast chargers are 60p + now.
So circa £30 for 50kwh, got a 100kwh battery, then get your wallet out.
Have you tried Arnold Clark and Motorway? I've sold cars to both within the last 4 years and they both offered more than WBAC.
Also, you have to account for 20% from the new price too? £24k trade in offer on a £36k car at 6 months old is probably not far off where we would have been in the market prior to 2020?
Do you need to sell? Surely you're making savings on fuel vs ICE?
Also, you have to account for 20% from the new price too? £24k trade in offer on a £36k car at 6 months old is probably not far off where we would have been in the market prior to 2020?
Do you need to sell? Surely you're making savings on fuel vs ICE?
Tesla announced some big price cuts recently, and it wouldn't be surprising if other EV manufacturers were forced to reduce their prices too. You can understand a dealer not wanting to have nearly-new EVs in their inventory if they are anticipating the prices of new models falling by an unknown amount in the near future.
_Rodders_ said:
That's not right.
41p is close to the domestic rate unless we're talking something like Octopus Go's night rate.
Most fast chargers are 60p + now.
So circa £30 for 50kwh, got a 100kwh battery, then get your wallet out.
Indeed41p is close to the domestic rate unless we're talking something like Octopus Go's night rate.
Most fast chargers are 60p + now.
So circa £30 for 50kwh, got a 100kwh battery, then get your wallet out.
How much does it cost to charge an electric car at Ecotricity?
As of January 2023, electricity from one of Grideseve's 'High Power' chargers (up to 360kW) now costs 66 pence per kilowatt-hour, while its 'Medium Power' chargers (up to 60kW) are priced at 65p/kWh. Finally, slower AC charging (up to 22kW) – both tethered and untethered – costs 49p/kWh.
The-Wanderer said:
We took a Tesla in PX in October, giving below book for it, and lost over £10k on it at auction in January. No interest in it at all. We’ve still got another one to shift.
Same with Mach E’s, nobody wants them second hand and they are dropping like stones.
Is there an element of those who want a Tesla might not be paying cash and their 3.9% PCP's offset used car savings?Same with Mach E’s, nobody wants them second hand and they are dropping like stones.
Just had a look on AT at a Mini Electric, you can get a 2021 one from a dealer for £20k. Quite tempted at that price.
For just over £40k you could get the Mini and that FF Range Rover 5.0 supercharged that was featured on PH the other day.
For just over £40k you could get the Mini and that FF Range Rover 5.0 supercharged that was featured on PH the other day.
Edited by soxboy on Wednesday 1st February 16:57
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