Noble values post Coronavirus

Noble values post Coronavirus

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Ian Perry

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253 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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I bought my Noble for £24k about 4-5 years ago it was a good basis for updating .The following items have been changed /upgraded ,radiator with flexible mounts ,shocks and springs ,new manifolds ,carbon interior parts ,new floor [chassis was superb underneath] front end refurbished new lights etc.,new alloys ,larger inter cooler etc etc .

It's been serviced every year[ Jetstream] and I have been quite happy to sit on it knowing the value has risen .So what's the future? Mainstream cars are undoubtedly going to take a hit with lots of PCP cars hitting the market , Porsche's have softened in some areas already where are our Noble's heading?

Lord Flashheart

3,435 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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I always feel that with this type of car values don't change hugely in either direction. You either want one or you don't, for example, in the £45-£55k bracket there are a lot of well built great cars full of tech that would appear far better value like say a 2 year old low mileage C63 AMG. Serious car with plenty of oomph that would give a Noble a bad time in a straight line. Obviously a very different category to a Noble, but that stresses my point. You've REALLY got to want an analogue experience to buy the Noble and it is likely to just be one car in your fleet.

doug_porsche

43 posts

71 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Lord Flashheart said:
I always feel that with this type of car values don't change hugely in either direction. You either want one or you don't, for example, in the £45-£55k bracket there are a lot of well built great cars full of tech that would appear far better value like say a 2 year old low mileage C63 AMG. Serious car with plenty of oomph that would give a Noble a bad time in a straight line. Obviously a very different category to a Noble, but that stresses my point. You've REALLY got to want an analogue experience to buy the Noble and it is likely to just be one car in your fleet.
Sad but true.
Nobles never had the "lifestyle branding" to make them "Over Priced".
Successful "lifestyle branding" Dino 246GT (1974) Median price, approx $300,000US
Not as Successful "lifestyle branding" Porsche 911 (1974) Median price, approx $30,000US
Is your average 1974 Dino really 10X the car that average 1974 Porsche 911?
The Noble is a niche car. A very capable niche car, but not a lifestyle car.
The positive "the (Nobles) values don't change hugely in either direction!"
As for the values of AMG's in general, well, I recommend buying used.

Lord Flashheart

3,435 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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doug_porsche said:
Lord Flashheart said:
I always feel that with this type of car values don't change hugely in either direction. You either want one or you don't, for example, in the £45-£55k bracket there are a lot of well built great cars full of tech that would appear far better value like say a 2 year old low mileage C63 AMG. Serious car with plenty of oomph that would give a Noble a bad time in a straight line. Obviously a very different category to a Noble, but that stresses my point. You've REALLY got to want an analogue experience to buy the Noble and it is likely to just be one car in your fleet.
Sad but true.
Nobles never had the "lifestyle branding" to make them "Over Priced".
Successful "lifestyle branding" Dino 246GT (1974) Median price, approx $300,000US
Not as Successful "lifestyle branding" Porsche 911 (1974) Median price, approx $30,000US
Is your average 1974 Dino really 10X the car that average 1974 Porsche 911?
The Noble is a niche car. A very capable niche car, but not a lifestyle car.
The positive "the (Nobles) values don't change hugely in either direction!"
As for the values of AMG's in general, well, I recommend buying used.
Some years ago, someone I know who lives locally, used to race for Lord March; I think it was probably during the 70's. He once said to me that the Noble is the real deal and that most other cars like Lambirghinis, Ferrari etc. were just 'bling'. And I think he's right. The Noble does exactly what it was built for without tricks or driver aids. Lee didn't look for shiny bits to add to the interior or develop expensive unique parts. The car had a job to do and affordably too. Job done. But when it comes to resale, with no racing pedigree for some buyers and no over the top bling for others, the price remains reasonably low in comparison to cars it will embarrass. It's the 'real deal' but a lot of petrol heads don't want that.

Ian Perry

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253 posts

120 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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They do have a decent following for those "in the know" and whilst not the best daily driver they are are better than some might expect .I've done a couple of 400 mile trips in mine and I find it very comfortable just don't bother fitting Bluetooth for you mobile.

I've always had a toy along side my daily which is currently an M2 which by today's standard is fairly analogue also. I must have a thing about this type of car ,can't image selling mine so I either get buried in it or hope one of the grand kid's becomes a petrolhead.

Having said that the way thinks are going they may never have the pleasure of driving a petrol engined car.


Lord Flashheart

3,435 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Ian Perry said:
They do have a decent following for those "in the know" and whilst not the best daily driver they are are better than some might expect .I've done a couple of 400 mile trips in mine and I find it very comfortable just don't bother fitting Bluetooth for you mobile.

I've always had a toy along side my daily which is currently an M2 which by today's standard is fairly analogue also. I must have a thing about this type of car ,can't image selling mine so I either get buried in it or hope one of the grand kid's becomes a petrolhead.

Having said that the way thinks are going they may never have the pleasure of driving a petrol engined car.

I've run a 2.5 and a 3R and if this bloody virus wasn't here, would have been in a M400 for late Spring. The sale is agreed and hopefully will still work out, but who knows now! My Nobles have been toys and not my everyday cars, but I had no problems driving to Le Mans in them a few times and found them comfortable enough for me, albeit, and this might just be what happens to me, on long journeys I sometimes get this kind of cramp down the front of my right shin! I think it's to do with lifting off the accelerator for a long time and hovering my foot over it. In a nutshell I won't find another car that does what the Noble does for me within the price, but as far as actual materials in the car goes for the money, it's not a good buy. What I am buying is the 'magic' it has and unless a potential buyer actually drives one of these cars, they won't understand. There are three owners in the south east (UK) that bought one having driven one of mine, which kind of proves my point. I should be on commission!

Spindoctor

618 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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I’ve had mine for 10 years. Just had to check the paperwork to make sure. Wow, I never imagined that would happen.

It’s a bit like a life partner - there are many moments of extreme happiness, then again sometimes it’s irritating, sometimes it’s very expensive, and occasionally I’ve felt like dumping it. But there’s something that keeps us together. To say it’s love may be a bit excessive, after all it’s a bunch of bits screwed together in a shed in Leicester. But it’s a car with charm, character, sexy looks, a lot of talent, and it stands out. The good far outweighs the bad. Every time I look at the classifieds (the auto equivalent of swipe right) I see things I’m very attracted to, but then I take the Noble out on a dry sunny day down twisty roads and all those thoughts of unfaithfulness go away.

So that’s a long-winded way of saying I don’t know what’s it worth now, or what it’s going to be worth when we emerge from this. There are loads of value questions on PH right now. Truth is no one knows. Unprecedented times. I think it’s best not to think about her sale value unless you really have to. But I do still sometimes find myself looking look at uncensored pictures of Ultimas and Exige 410s.

sjc

11,731 posts

234 months

Friday 24th April 2020
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I've had my 400 for 13 years, and a 3R before that. They may drop a bit,but if money was an issue I'd much rather be sitting on one of these than pretty much any other useable car of value at the moment. Not just because of the driving experience which is still right up there with the best, but there's so few Nobles about that if someone wants one, they haven't got many to choose from or bargain against.

Hoover.

5,953 posts

206 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Had my Noble for a year... fab to drive, wanted one for the last 10 years......and that is purely it, I WANTED one.... my non car mates have no idea what it is.... you need to know and want one...… not a badge brand...… how ever it is amazing how many of the xbox generation kids know what it is (I get a lot of waves n and thumbs up from the mid 20 yrs olds )

Ian Perry

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253 posts

120 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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I went out for a drive yesterday [I know I know] still lots of love a round for Nobles .I passed a guy in Golf going up a slip way he was hanging out of the window waving away, we caught up at the lights and he and another guy windows down enthusing over the car..

Blu3R

2,325 posts

163 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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sjc said:
They may drop a bit,but if money was an issue I'd much rather be sitting on one of these than pretty much any other useable car of value at the moment.
Totally agree. When I look out my window I can almost see the money ebbing away from the 991 GT3 that's sitting there. My Noble on the other hand will always be £50k+

There are a couple of alternate auction sites popping up that I've noticed and some rare cars are fetching very strong money. It appears that being furloughed has allowed some to throw caution to the wind while they're bored at home.

Midlifecrisis71

2,867 posts

239 months

Wednesday 20th May 2020
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Every time the prices stabilise, someone advertises one for 5k under its value. The Red 3R on the classifieds at 43k is a case in point.
I still don't understand how the TVR Sagaris that drives considerably worse and is slower, still fetches 75k !

I work in the mainstream motor trade & the prices have remained the same as pre-virus. The volume of used sales is just starting to grow quite fast this week. The train of thought if your glass is half full, is that new car supply has been 3 month delayed, so used car supply will be difficult and prices will remain strong on used cars.

Anyway, Nobles will stay the same price this year I think