Tesla Full Self Driving Test Software Goes Live in U.S
Discussion
foggy said:
I hope it’s a bit more refined than the current Autoplot we have on this side of the pond otherwise it’s not going to be the smoothest of drives...
Yup, have given up trying autpilot on my model 3 on anything except the widest, straightest motorways in perfect weather. On anything else its simply f
king dangerous and I'm coming to the opinion it shouldn't be allowed.Lim said:
taking itself off to be fixed - again...
It's ok, the destination he chose just tickled me. There doesn't seem to have been much progress of late. Still just 35 carefully selected Tesla youtubers or owners club members only allowed to carefully chose selected routes in selected locations.
Given many thought the full release was coming for Christmas 2020 it seems they may be having trouble making it work outside these very limited test routes.
Better to be cautious though, release to general public and you'll have all sorts of idiots expecting it to drive them everywhere and cope with everything thrown at it.
Baby steps still, it's a long way from ready.
Given many thought the full release was coming for Christmas 2020 it seems they may be having trouble making it work outside these very limited test routes.
Better to be cautious though, release to general public and you'll have all sorts of idiots expecting it to drive them everywhere and cope with everything thrown at it.
Baby steps still, it's a long way from ready.
It served its purpose, it ramped the share price a bit, got Musk his billion dollar bonus and enabled them to raise a couple of billion with a sky high price rights issue. Pre market its now under 760 from a 52 week high of 900 so 15% down. Be interesting if the faithful start cashing out while they can.
Order66 said:
Yup, have given up trying autpilot on my model 3 on anything except the widest, straightest motorways in perfect weather. On anything else its simply fking dangerous and I'm coming to the opinion it shouldn't be allowed.
I agree - I have had several heart-stopping moments in mine where the wheel has been 'grabbed' by the software or heavy braking being applied. I would be interested to know where the car was heading at 70mph - but self preservation prevented me from finding out! king dangerous and I'm coming to the opinion it shouldn't be allowed.I didn't buy the car for the feature, so it's unimportant to me. But I agree that it seems a very long way from even being vaguely safe.
Carl_Manchester said:
Some People here said it couldn’t be done but here we are in 2020.
Here we are, 4 months later and its still nowhere.I would suggest to the OP that the people who said it wasn't coming soon were absolutely right.
Don't like to say "some of us told you so", but "some of us told you so". Spend more than a year or so following Tesla and you get used to the pattern of behaviour
Heres Johnny said:
Here we are, 4 months later and its still nowhere.
I would suggest to the OP that the people who said it wasn't coming soon were absolutely right.
Don't like to say "some of us told you so", but "some of us told you so". Spend more than a year or so following Tesla and you get used to the pattern of behaviour
In December 2015 Musk predicted "complete autonomy" by 2018I would suggest to the OP that the people who said it wasn't coming soon were absolutely right.
Don't like to say "some of us told you so", but "some of us told you so". Spend more than a year or so following Tesla and you get used to the pattern of behaviour
In February 2019, Musk stated that Tesla's Full Self Driving capability would be "feature complete" by the end of 2019
As of December 28, 2019, Tesla's order page for "Full Self-Driving Capability" stated:
Coming later this year:
Automatic driving on city streets.
In January 2020, he pushed back his projection to be feature complete to the end of 2020
You can see why some people never really believe what he says.
I remain impressed by his promise-to-success ratio.
I've come to accept he is quite trumpian in his sales approach and approach to truth.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. I'm excited to see the next iteration of FSD, which I believe will be hitting youtube in next couple of weeks, with luck.
I've come to accept he is quite trumpian in his sales approach and approach to truth.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. I'm excited to see the next iteration of FSD, which I believe will be hitting youtube in next couple of weeks, with luck.
Lim said:
I remain impressed by his promise-to-success ratio.
I've come to accept he is quite trumpian in his sales approach and approach to truth.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. I'm excited to see the next iteration of FSD, which I believe will be hitting youtube in next couple of weeks, with luck.
It will change if you follow him long enough, spend money based on his ‘coming soon’ promises or get otherwise let down.I've come to accept he is quite trumpian in his sales approach and approach to truth.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. I'm excited to see the next iteration of FSD, which I believe will be hitting youtube in next couple of weeks, with luck.
My advice to anybody looking at Tesla is to only look at what tangibly exists now and not what is promised.
Lim said:
I remain impressed by his promise-to-success ratio.
And even more impressed with his promise to "still a promise but delayed a bit" ratio?https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35350331/checki...
Heres Johnny said:
Carl_Manchester said:
Some People here said it couldn’t be done but here we are in 2020.
Here we are, 4 months later and its still nowhere.I would suggest to the OP that the people who said it wasn't coming soon were absolutely right.
Don't like to say "some of us told you so", but "some of us told you so". Spend more than a year or so following Tesla and you get used to the pattern of behaviour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWlYfZ0KQHE&ab...
There will be people on PH that want the project to fail but the evidence suggests that even in its current state, for people with disabilities or physical impairments it is a game changer and could be a life changer.
For those that want to tick the boxes for total autonomous 100% wont-fail-under-any-situation air-traffic control software infallibility will need to wait longer, i do accept that.
No one is doubting the benefits to some when it arrives, the question is when?
I suggest you invest an equal amount of time looking at Waymo and Mobileye and a host of other companies videos to get some perspective compared to a handful of selected you tubers driving in very limited areas and very limited conditions with the threat of it being taken away if they list anything too detrimental. Tesla use NDAs over everything including making owners sign them fir even repairs fixes at times. If you think you’re watching impartial reviews and evidence I think you’re being more than a little naive.
I suggest you invest an equal amount of time looking at Waymo and Mobileye and a host of other companies videos to get some perspective compared to a handful of selected you tubers driving in very limited areas and very limited conditions with the threat of it being taken away if they list anything too detrimental. Tesla use NDAs over everything including making owners sign them fir even repairs fixes at times. If you think you’re watching impartial reviews and evidence I think you’re being more than a little naive.
How patronising.
I’d be very surprised if someone who watches weekly fsd updates on YouTube isn’t also subscribed to waymo and Mobileye updates too. It’s quite geeky after all.
Some people just want to feel superior. It’s the conspiracy mindset. The sheeple can’t see the whole picture ....
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I’d be very surprised if someone who watches weekly fsd updates on YouTube isn’t also subscribed to waymo and Mobileye updates too. It’s quite geeky after all.
Some people just want to feel superior. It’s the conspiracy mindset. The sheeple can’t see the whole picture ....
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Edited by Lim on Monday 1st March 08:16
Lim said:
How patronising.
I’d be very surprised if someone who watches weekly fsd updates on YouTube isn’t also subscribed to waymo and Mobileye updates too. It’s quite geeky after all.
Some people just want to feel superior. It’s the conspiracy mindset. The sheeple can’t see the whole picture ....
Really - I'd be very surprised if they did considering they never comment or compare and contrast with the competition. That would be useful.I’d be very surprised if someone who watches weekly fsd updates on YouTube isn’t also subscribed to waymo and Mobileye updates too. It’s quite geeky after all.
Some people just want to feel superior. It’s the conspiracy mindset. The sheeple can’t see the whole picture ....
Edited by Lim on Monday 1st March 08:00
And how exactly is it patronising to suggest comparing with the competition for a balanced opnion?
Maybe they could try doing a "feature complete" assessment against the standards the US authorities have put out, something Waymo has done and scored their capability against it, whereas Musk just says "feature complete" without saying what the list of features are meant to be. If you want to be geeky then surely this type of thing, looking for evidence against a defined set of criteria that exercises the full spectrum of features is better than thinking "it looked like it made a left hand turning a bit better this week" when we've no idea if that turning was made 50 times and we get to see the best of them.
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Edited by Heres Johnny on Monday 1st March 08:19
Lim said:
If you seen do nothing but bh. Why not post some content yourself?
I wrote this last year... h. Why not post some content yourself?https://tesla-info.com/blog/tesla-FSD-feature-comp...
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