aygo airbag warning light

aygo airbag warning light

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z4me

Original Poster:

303 posts

133 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Bloody thing's started flashing on daughter's car. Limited searches on the subject, but a couple come up with loose connections under the seats. Had a quick look and jiggle about but can't see any problem under there frown . Before I get bent over by Toyota (it's out of warranty), any Aygo/C1/107 owners had similar and managed to resolve? TIA

Fastra

4,218 posts

173 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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First result in google....

"aygo airbag warning light"

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?s...

smile

z4me

Original Poster:

303 posts

133 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Fastra said:
First result in google....

"aygo airbag warning light"

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?s...

smile
That's what I was talking about Fastra, duff connection (cheap), new ECU (bent over). Just wondered if anyone had come up with a different solution.

Fastra

4,218 posts

173 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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A few people suggestion disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes to clear the fault -worth a go?

Fastra

4,218 posts

173 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Possibly some ideas on here:

http://www.c1oc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&...

but no ultimate solution.

frown

z4me

Original Poster:

303 posts

133 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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Fastra said:
A few people suggestion disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes to clear the fault -worth a go?
yeah, battery was something I was thinking about trying over the weekend. Worringly , I read somewhere else while looking for a solution that warning lights for stuff like air bags constitutes an MOT failure since he beginning of the year frown

Fastra

4,218 posts

173 months

Friday 10th August 2012
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z4me said:
Fastra said:
A few people suggestion disconnecting the battery for 15 minutes to clear the fault -worth a go?
yeah, battery was something I was thinking about trying over the weekend. Worringly , I read somewhere else while looking for a solution that warning lights for stuff like air bags constitutes an MOT failure since he beginning of the year frown
More worrying is that fact that they're not working at all though!

eek

z4me

Original Poster:

303 posts

133 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Update from weekend. Took car in for its service and MOT, had the vaseline in my pocket ready smile . Nice service chap came back after about five mins to tell me they'd managed to clear the fault , thought it might be caused if the battery was a bit on the low side (daughter has a habit of switching lights on before starting car). ECU detects slightly low voltage during its startup checks and disables air bags. Said later Aygo models had a ten second delay before running the checks.

As an aside, he told me that the MOT tester said that the airbag light problem wouldn't be an MOT failure anyway. In his words "it's not a vehicle saftey feature, unlike something like anti-lock brakes or stability control". Didn't seem to make sense to me, but wasn't about to argue. Thought about it later and I can see a difference though, airbags are purely passenger safety, the fact they won't deploy doesn't make you a danger to road users or pedestrians.

EAndy

219 posts

106 months

Monday 10th September 2012
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Glad you sorted it, have a run about Aygo and the Power steering ECU is dying it's intermittent fault where after usually anywhere from 100 yards to 3 miles you hear a click from under the steering column and the PS comes to life. Pain in the ar$e thankfully have a friend who works for Toyota so I'm not requiring to much vaseline just changed the discs and pads on the GT-R so in comparison I can't complain at the prices of Toyota parts.

Regarding the airbag and light though it would fail regardless of what Mr. Toyota advisor said.

MOT said:
Supplementary restraints

The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.
MOT said:
On 1 January 2012, new rules were added to the current MOT by the Department for Transport (DfT) to comply with European testing procedures.

It's a pretty substantial list, but there's one addition that could mean big bills for thousands of drivers. If your car has any illuminated warning lamps, whether it is the airbag, seatbelt, ESP, SRS, ABS or others, it will soon fail the MOT.
MOT said:
Warning lights

As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Airbag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension

Dimidius

1 posts

76 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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EAndy said:
Glad you sorted it, have a run about Aygo and the Power steering ECU is dying it's intermittent fault where after usually anywhere from 100 yards to 3 miles you hear a click from under the steering column and the PS comes to life. Pain in the ar$e thankfully have a friend who works for Toyota so I'm not requiring to much vaseline just changed the discs and pads on the GT-R so in comparison I can't complain at the prices of Toyota parts.

Regarding the airbag and light though it would fail regardless of what Mr. Toyota advisor said.

MOT said:
Supplementary restraints

The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.
MOT said:
On 1 January 2012, new rules were added to the current MOT by the Department for Transport (DfT) to comply with European testing procedures.

It's a pretty substantial list, but there's one addition that could mean big bills for thousands of drivers. If your car has any illuminated warning lamps, whether it is the airbag, seatbelt, ESP, SRS, ABS or others, it will soon fail the MOT.
MOT said:
Warning lights

As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Airbag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
Hi, I have the same symptoms to my car, my power steering does the same thing, but especially in the morning or when the engine is cold, so you need to wait for 1-3 minutes until you hear the sound under the steering that makes the p.s again full working. So I would like to ask you, what was the solution about this problem. Now im getting also sometimes Airbag light, today started and I don't know as well what it causes...Thanks in advance.

mrties

6 posts

82 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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the air bag warning light does not have to illuminate and then go out to pass mot
ie it only fails mot if the light comes on showing there is a fault
(so if the bulb had blown for instance ,vehicle would pass mot )
ps not many mot testers know this,most think it needs to come on then go out

Edited by mrties on Friday 14th August 18:14


Edited by mrties on Friday 14th August 18:35

Quhet

1,948 posts

110 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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mrties said:
the air bag warning light does not have to illuminate and the go out to pass mot
ie it only fails mot if the light comes on showing there is a fault
(so if the bulb had blown for instance ,vehicle would pass mot )
Only 8 months late...

stemll

2,523 posts

164 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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mrties said:
the air bag warning light does not have to illuminate and the go out to pass mot
ie it only fails mot if the light comes on showing there is a fault
(so if the bulb had blown for instance ,vehicle would pass mot )
Yes it does

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_540.htm

Method of Inspection

2. Turn on the ignition and check the presence and operation of any Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indictor lamp(s) (MIL)


Reasons for Rejection

2. A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:

. inoperative

. indicating a system malfunction.

charltjr

3,923 posts

159 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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mrties said:
the air bag warning light does not have to illuminate and then go out to pass mot
ie it only fails mot if the light comes on showing there is a fault
(so if the bulb had blown for instance ,vehicle would pass mot )

Edited by mrties on Friday 14th August 18:14
a) this thread is ancient
b) that's completely wrong - if the light is inoperative that is a fail

mrties

6 posts

82 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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thats what i thought
but if you take it up with vosa or what ever they are called now what i have written is valid ,as i queried this on a training course,about 6 months ago

imagineifyeswill

1,150 posts

130 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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IIRC the airbag warning light not illuminating was going to be a failure point but there was a rethink and it was changed to srs lamp illuminated only is a failure, also if the vehicle has the facility to turn off the passenger side airbag this can apparently cause the lamp to illuminate in some vehicles so if switch is in off position again its not a failure.

mrties

6 posts

82 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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thank you sir for your detailed description on air bag light
cheers

MG CHRIS

7,718 posts

131 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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charltjr said:
mrties said:
the air bag warning light does not have to illuminate and then go out to pass mot
ie it only fails mot if the light comes on showing there is a fault
(so if the bulb had blown for instance ,vehicle would pass mot )

Edited by mrties on Friday 14th August 18:14
a) this thread is ancient
b) that's completely wrong - if the light is inoperative that is a fail
Incorrect mrties is correct no self test for the air bag was going to be but got taken off.

charltjr

3,923 posts

159 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Got a link to anywhere that backs that up? All the resources I can find online state that the lamp being illuminated or inoperative is a fail.

charltjr

3,923 posts

159 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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I stand corrected - found the latest version of the mot testing manual on the main government website and it only states that it's a fail if the lamp is illuminated.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Note to self, go to the source in future not 3rd party sites that claim to accurately reproduce the information.