Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!

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PhilPol

311 posts

56 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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damolong said:
Many modern cars have both. Is that a no then?
The manual makes no mention of a 'LIM' function: https://gr-yaris.co.uk/forum/attachments/gr-yaris-...

Which is an odd omission as my 10 year old Focus has it, and the GRY has a credible need for it given the likelihood of easily breaking the speed limit without noticing.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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damolong said:
Many modern cars have both. Is that a no then?
It has adaptive cruise control and a speed limiter.

PhilPol

311 posts

56 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
damolong said:
Many modern cars have both. Is that a no then?
It has adaptive cruise control and a speed limiter.
By speed limiter do you mean you mean a 'LIM' function? Or a max speed limiter (143mph)?

I can't see a 'LIM' function in the manual.

Bigwod

308 posts

68 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Bigwod said:
I got caught before xmas joined a busy road which has a blind bend to the left and poor visibility to the right ,pulled out of junction and to get some speed up so i wouldn't be rear ended went round corner and there was the traffic van positioned ironically from where the danger is,, was doing 36 in a 30 zone
felt like entrapment to me, forgot about it and then after xmas the letter arrived , sent it off to do a course and they replied 2 days after, picked a course out for 14th Feb as the mrs was in and I'm no expert on computers and never used zoom, pad wouldn't work for whatever reason ,mac book did .
lasted for 2.5 hours quite interesting really and no boy racers on the group, many old boys which just showed mostly accidental speeding or not knowing the speed limits on certain roads.
Ruined my fun in cars, as scared of every white van parked up, and cant you go on the course if get caught again before completing, those weeks leading up to course where a black cloud over my head, still have clean license but made me think do i want another fast car or sell the ones i have as it affected me, anyway keeping the cars and Gr comes in April.
Spending a lot of time looking for the potholes which again have got worse,the police should call them in as they are accidents waiting to happen , but they rather drive round them and park up behind tall grass and catch a motorist who drives past them without incident.
Where was that roughly Bigwod? Wenlock?
( I think you’re from my area as I’ve seen your Escort )
I was coming down into cressage turned down from the Leighton road, was waiting to turn right towards Shrewsbury at the war memorial spire and as it was very busy and you can’t see left ,I gave it some beans to just get on and up to speed and just round the next corner the van was there waiting. He gets there at 9am and does a few hours.

ecsrobin

18,223 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Waze is your friend there. I have it running in the background (prefer Apple maps for navigation) but it will still alert you to police or you can report them to help others.

Beefstah

17 posts

60 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Many years ago I got done on the A45 after leaving JAE at Billing Aquadrome.

I was most aggrieved, as I knew the coppers would be around, and had decided to be a good boy and was sat in the inside lane with the cruise control on at an indicted 75.

What I didn't realise was that around a couple of the junctions, the speed limit dropped to 60mph for a short distance before going back up to 70. It was late afternoon, and heading west into the sunset as I was meant the sun was in my eyes, so I missed the signs, and I was keeping up with the flow of traffic anyway (in fact, was one of the slower vehicles). The van was on one of the bridges, and boom: NIP for 73 in a 60.

It only changed for that 2-3 mile stretch of dual-carriageway around Brackmills Industrial Estate, and it felt massively opportunistic - until a mate asked me if I'd rather have been caught "unfairly" doing 73 in a 60...or if I'd prefer they'd caught me "fairly" doing one of my go-straight-to-jail speeds?

In that context, I took the karmic balancing with a smile...




Northernboy

12,642 posts

272 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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ecsrobin said:
Waze is your friend there. I have it running in the background (prefer Apple maps for navigation) but it will still alert you to police or you can report them to help others.
It’s what I use, and despite making very full use of some extremely fast cars (where safe to do so) the only SP30 I have is when my baby had explosively crapped all over my brand new SL and I chose to disregard the warnings to get home ahead of the seepage.

coded2112

174 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Just seen a GR Circuit Pack for sale on Autotrader for £44,995!!

Really is anyone going to pay 10k ott!

damolong

108 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?


Baldchap

9,151 posts

107 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?
It has adaptive cruise, which accomplishes the same thing.

PhilPol

311 posts

56 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Baldchap said:
damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?
It has adaptive cruise, which accomplishes the same thing.
No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.

Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

272 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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PhilPol said:
No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.

Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
Well, it might help a bit, but it’ll only stop you if you remember to set it to the limit whenever it changes.

RB Will

10,308 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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coded2112 said:
Just seen a GR Circuit Pack for sale on Autotrader for £44,995!!

Really is anyone going to pay 10k ott!
If I had loads of money and couldn't be bothered to wait a year to see what the fuss is all about I would. It not a lot of money, essentially disposable to some people. Not me, but a few people I know.

coded2112

174 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RB Will said:
coded2112 said:
Just seen a GR Circuit Pack for sale on Autotrader for £44,995!!

Really is anyone going to pay 10k ott!
If I had loads of money and couldn't be bothered to wait a year to see what the fuss is all about I would. It not a lot of money, essentially disposable to some people. Not me, but a few people I know.
Fair point, i must just be tight lol

ecsrobin

18,223 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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PhilPol said:
No, it doesn't accomplish the same thing. A LIM function allows you to bomb around town (or anywhere) without going over the set speed, irrespective of other traffic.

Adaptive cruise stops you crashing, LIM stops you getting speeding tickets.
That’s your brain and right foot. It’s really not that hard to do.

leviCV8

89 posts

110 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Just seen my first GR Yaris (white, circuit pack) in the flesh parked up at Tesco near Middlesbrough.

It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me.

Roll on June!!

Terminator X

17,720 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?
O/T but coming soon!

"Mandatory speed limiters to be fitted to all new UK cars after 2022

Sitting among a range of new safety features due for all new cars, the mandatory speed limiters come as part of a proposal from the European Transport Safety Council, recently approved by a group of key MEPs. Regardless of whether the UK is in the EU, it has been confirmed that the UK will receive the technology.

Dubbed Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA), the limiters will use GPS data and/or traffic sign recognition cameras to determine the speed limit of the road a vehicle is travelling on. Engine power will then be limited to match this, preventing the car from exceeding the speed limit. It will be possible to override the system by pushing hard on the throttle, however the system will be engaged every time a car is started.

If you think you can simply keep pressing a little harder on the throttle to break through the system, think again. ETSC also states that: ‘If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.’

A feature already seen on models such as the new Ford Focus and set to be imposed on all new Volvos from next year [2020], the speed limiters will come alongside data loggers, autonomous emergency braking systems, lane keep assist, driver fatigue detection systems and other safety measures. It’s not all quite as bad as you may think, as the European Transport and Safety Council admits the system will come with a full on/off switch initially. This is only “to aid public acceptance at introduction” however, and so it’s likely that it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future, meaning a permanent system may come into force.

The systems will be required on all new models given ‘type’ approval from May 2022, with all models on the market before that date required to adopt the tech by May 2024. With the recent confirmation of the UK’s adoption of the technology came interesting news from the Department for Transport, stating that it expects limiters "to give drivers feedback when the speed limit is exceeded rather than limiting the speed" with a reduction in engine power as previously understood."

TX.

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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"Just seen my first GR Yaris (white, circuit pack) in the flesh parked up at Tesco near Middlesbrough.

It looked great and noticeably purposeful even from a good distance away. Went in for a closer look and then realised there were 2 people sat in it. If anyone on here saw a wierd guy in a Monaro rubber necking at them then that was me."

That just goes to show that the GR Yaris is not the most discrete car to get a handy in.

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Terminator X said:
damolong said:
Just to be clear, when I say speed limiter I am not meaning any limit Toyota may have put on top speed.

I am talking about an electronic function in the car that allows the driver to set a maximum speed, temporarily, above which the car will not go. Very handy for 50mph limits on the motorway and common on many cars these days.

Anyone know definitively?
O/T but coming soon!

"Mandatory speed limiters to be fitted to all new UK cars after 2022

Sitting among a range of new safety features due for all new cars, the mandatory speed limiters come as part of a proposal from the European Transport Safety Council, recently approved by a group of key MEPs. Regardless of whether the UK is in the EU, it has been confirmed that the UK will receive the technology.

Dubbed Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA), the limiters will use GPS data and/or traffic sign recognition cameras to determine the speed limit of the road a vehicle is travelling on. Engine power will then be limited to match this, preventing the car from exceeding the speed limit. It will be possible to override the system by pushing hard on the throttle, however the system will be engaged every time a car is started.

If you think you can simply keep pressing a little harder on the throttle to break through the system, think again. ETSC also states that: ‘If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.’

A feature already seen on models such as the new Ford Focus and set to be imposed on all new Volvos from next year [2020], the speed limiters will come alongside data loggers, autonomous emergency braking systems, lane keep assist, driver fatigue detection systems and other safety measures. It’s not all quite as bad as you may think, as the European Transport and Safety Council admits the system will come with a full on/off switch initially. This is only “to aid public acceptance at introduction” however, and so it’s likely that it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future, meaning a permanent system may come into force.

The systems will be required on all new models given ‘type’ approval from May 2022, with all models on the market before that date required to adopt the tech by May 2024. With the recent confirmation of the UK’s adoption of the technology came interesting news from the Department for Transport, stating that it expects limiters "to give drivers feedback when the speed limit is exceeded rather than limiting the speed" with a reduction in engine power as previously understood."

TX.
Jesus Christ. Thanks TX, I hadn’t seen any of that anywhere. I think that has confirmed that buying my first and last new car in 2021 is absolutely the right thing to do.

Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue. hehe

I’m already apprehensive about things such as Lane keep assist being on by default (which almost every reviewer comments on). But I think the guys on the GRY forum have worked out a way of disabling this. Along with the two separate digital engine and road noise systems.

I’m not completely against all technology in cars and I’m looking forward to having the G-meter and other telemetry bits, along with Apple CarPlay. What I don’t appreciate, at any point, is being told how to drive by my car. fk right off with that, I’d rather cycle or walk.

ecsrobin

18,223 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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MiseryStreak said:
Jesus Christ. Thanks TX, I hadn’t seen any of that anywhere. I think that has confirmed that buying my first and last new car in 2021 is absolutely the right thing to do.

Ron will be along shortly to tell me I shouldn’t be exceeding the speed limit anyway so it’s not an issue. hehe

I’m already apprehensive about things such as Lane keep assist being on by default (which almost every reviewer comments on). But I think the guys on the GRY forum have worked out a way of disabling this. Along with the two separate digital engine and road noise systems.

I’m not completely against all technology in cars and I’m looking forward to having the G-meter and other telemetry bits, along with Apple CarPlay. What I don’t appreciate, at any point, is being told how to drive by my car. fk right off with that, I’d rather cycle or walk.
At a guess lane assist being on must be for something like getting a good NCAP rating same with stop start.

So was filling up today and parked up behind a nice Renault alpine in blue. They really do look great. Next thing an older chap wanted to chat about my car and not the alpine which surprised me rofl had seen my car parked by my house and was excited to know if it was as good as they said it was apparently he’s told his daughter all about the specs. If it wasn’t for covid I’d have let him in for a play to find out for himself.
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