Toyota GR Yaris - Official! (Vol 2)
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LegendaryGiT said:
We looked at an UP! GTi at launch. The seats made us walk away sadly. Looked cracking otherwise.
Yep, the seats are crap, I will agree! Rest of it is great, it’s like driving an overexcited puppy, and feels a lot quicker than it actually is - it’s good fun! Sorry for O/T post!Will go and have a look at a GR.
Does anyone know of they will do a ‘Clio Williams’ and release another run?
ChevronB19 said:
LegendaryGiT said:
We looked at an UP! GTi at launch. The seats made us walk away sadly. Looked cracking otherwise.
Yep, the seats are crap, I will agree! Rest of it is great, it’s like driving an overexcited puppy, and feels a lot quicker than it actually is - it’s good fun! Sorry for O/T post!Will go and have a look at a GR.
Does anyone know of they will do a ‘Clio Williams’ and release another run?
The GRMN variant has already been released to Japanese market.
My personal view point is now Akio Toyoda has stepped down due to not driving the company toward EV adoption I can't imagine a lot of motivation to produce more unprofitable halo cars when cars like the GR Corolla exist.
For those interested in the trip to Sweden I took, here's a little montage I recorded:
https://youtu.be/YuUycGF14TM
https://youtu.be/YuUycGF14TM
PhilPol said:
For those interested in the trip to Sweden I took, here's a little montage I recorded:
https://youtu.be/YuUycGF14TM
Brilliant!https://youtu.be/YuUycGF14TM
Youtube doing what it does this popped up https://youtu.be/RG8s8kQE5qc which i had missed so far but it is also worth a watch for fans of frozen lakes + GRY
(Misha of Nurburgring fame on a bilstein event with some old guy, Walter Rohl
)Edited by UK952 on Wednesday 29th March 10:39
DriveSnowdonia said:
What on earth is going on at Toyota? Received a marketing email from Toyota UK today dated 2023 and saying:
"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
Does anyone know where Toyota has got to with the waiting list? I ordered March 2022, wondering when people with the most recent deliveries/builds ordered? If I'm miles out, I might need to bite the bullet and buy used!"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
ColinMacC said:
DriveSnowdonia said:
What on earth is going on at Toyota? Received a marketing email from Toyota UK today dated 2023 and saying:
"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
Does anyone know where Toyota has got to with the waiting list? I ordered March 2022, wondering when people with the most recent deliveries/builds ordered? If I'm miles out, I might need to bite the bullet and buy used!"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
ColinMacC said:
Does anyone know where Toyota has got to with the waiting list? I ordered March 2022, wondering when people with the most recent deliveries/builds ordered? If I'm miles out, I might need to bite the bullet and buy used!
Highest number seen is around 22,500 of a planned 25,000 so there’s 2,500 cars remaining to produce, production was planned around 900-1000 cars a month but seemed to run at around 750pm its been around 250pm for a fair few months which is why delivery dates are pushing back. Do you mean March 2021? March 2022 the book had been closed for nearly a year unless you’re outside of the UK. If not and you’re on the wait list it’s over 10,000 strong before they closed the list.
ColinMacC said:
Sorry - Should have said, put my name on the waiting list in March next year - looking to see when the latest people with a confirmed build put their name on the waiting list?
05 July 2021 was the last day a confirmed order was placed (+- a few days) wait list came out a few days later on 09 July 2021. ColinMacC said:
PhilPol said:
ColinMacC said:
DriveSnowdonia said:
What on earth is going on at Toyota? Received a marketing email from Toyota UK today dated 2023 and saying:
"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
Does anyone know where Toyota has got to with the waiting list? I ordered March 2022, wondering when people with the most recent deliveries/builds ordered? If I'm miles out, I might need to bite the bullet and buy used!"While you wait patiently on the list, why not discover a little more about the origin story behind GR Yaris?". Plus a whole load of info on the GR Yaris, including links through to an online brochure dated 2022.
I can't quite understand what's going on? I mean if production is finishing, why on earth are they still marketing it to people on the waiting list? Why use the phrase "while you wait patiently"?
dvshannow said:
They planned to make 25k I thought only for the homologation rules
If they don’t need to anymore and they don’t make money on the cars why would they still necessarily make 25k?
That’s what they said but I’ve only ever seen FIA rules stating 2,500 but I suspect as above it was economical at 25,000 (half of which is the Rally Shopper edition). If they don’t need to anymore and they don’t make money on the cars why would they still necessarily make 25k?
ecsrobin said:
dvshannow said:
They planned to make 25k I thought only for the homologation rules
If they don’t need to anymore and they don’t make money on the cars why would they still necessarily make 25k?
That’s what they said but I’ve only ever seen FIA rules stating 2,500 but I suspect as above it was economical at 25,000 (half of which is the Rally Shopper edition). If they don’t need to anymore and they don’t make money on the cars why would they still necessarily make 25k?
Typically with WRC homologation requirements, you have to sell 25,000 examples of a base car, and 2500 of them have to be the model variant being homologated for rally. Wikipedia's helpful example highlights Subaru: to homologate the WRX for rallying, you have to sell 25,000 Imprezas and of those, 2500 have to be WRXes. But, the GR Yaris is so different than the standard Yaris, Toyota will have to sell 25,000 for homologation.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...
ferrisbueller said:
Typically with WRC homologation requirements, you have to sell 25,000 examples of a base car, and 2500 of them have to be the model variant being homologated for rally. Wikipedia's helpful example highlights Subaru: to homologate the WRX for rallying, you have to sell 25,000 Imprezas and of those, 2500 have to be WRXes. But, the GR Yaris is so different than the standard Yaris, Toyota will have to sell 25,000 for homologation.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...
That makes sense. FIA rules weren’t that clear. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/...
Captain Obvious said:
This is why in Japan there is the 1.5 Auto FWD GR Yaris aka the RS spec GR Yaris. For homologation they only needed to sell 25k bodies. The intention was to sell alot of the 1.5L domestically to make up numbers.
How many of those sold and are they part of the 25k being counted?Still , original point I made remains valid it seems that Toyota originally had to make 25k and now no longer need to
More likely they lose on every car than computed 25k as the break even point , as 25k is also the amount they had to make - so at this point why make more it’s not going rallying and has done about as good a job re elevating the GR brand as they could have possibly hoped
I quite like that they made a lot, it makes the car somewhat future proof as there is a critical mass + backed by one of the biggest manufacturers to ensure long term parts and servicing remain accessible
dvshannow said:
How many of those sold and are they part of the 25k being counted?
Still , original point I made remains valid it seems that Toyota originally had to make 25k and now no longer need to
More likely they lose on every car than computed 25k as the break even point , as 25k is also the amount they had to make - so at this point why make more it’s not going rallying and has done about as good a job re elevating the GR brand as they could have possibly hoped
I quite like that they made a lot, it makes the car somewhat future proof as there is a critical mass + backed by one of the biggest manufacturers to ensure long term parts and servicing remain accessible
All this has been covered in the last day. But half. Still , original point I made remains valid it seems that Toyota originally had to make 25k and now no longer need to
More likely they lose on every car than computed 25k as the break even point , as 25k is also the amount they had to make - so at this point why make more it’s not going rallying and has done about as good a job re elevating the GR brand as they could have possibly hoped
I quite like that they made a lot, it makes the car somewhat future proof as there is a critical mass + backed by one of the biggest manufacturers to ensure long term parts and servicing remain accessible
You’d continue to produce what you planned to produce because of what you’ve ordered from suppliers. I doubt we will see another run now the Corolla is around but it is possible any unsold allocations from other countries go to a country that has a waiting list but that’s probably not the hundreds rather than any big number.
It’s all a bit of an unknown still but used cars for sale are starting to drop in number I expect that to continue until an announcement is made.
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