Macan EV

[Greenmantle]

rngDeadeye said:

stuckmojo said:

Had a Macan 4 demo for the day yesterday, loaded with options including HUD.

Goes well, quite efficient and can't argue with the handling. I haven't driven many EVs so I have no term of paragon. Tech is great. The HUD is great BUT the nanny aids are even more in your face and a ball ache to disable every time. This isn't Porsche's fault.

Lovely thing, I could see myself changing my Macan S for it, but not for the price differential. When they're £40k with OPC warranty and reasonable insurance, possibly. At £100k, no chance.

I drove a 4s and the Turbo, really impressive handling considering the weight.

did the Turbo have 4 wheel steering?

[Terry Winks]

A Macan has always had amazing handling for what it is, for all the people who just say "Its a Q5 underneath" no Q5 is getting down a B road like that.

[Voodoo Blue]

bennno said:

They did that when I spec'd a 992 - told them i didn't want it. The cynic within makes me think it must be a very high margin option.

I think it's likely to be software update so costs them nothing but a bit of time on a computer.

[Jockman]

South tdf said:

Have finally worked out my order. As it’s a company car I need to be sensible with options and amazingly it is better to go for a Turbo rather than an optioned up 4S

Can any owners suggest any essentials I am missing?

Macan Turbo Electric
Dolomite Silver Metallic
22-inch Macan Sport Wheels
Extended Leather Interior in Black
Exterior mirrors painted in exterior colour
Side window trims in Black high gloss
Sideblades painted in exterior colour
Panoramic roof
River wiper
Privacy glass
Accent Package Silvershade
Seat centres in contrast Chalk Beige
Surround view with active park

I went for Jet Black and the RS Spyder wheels My brother chose Painted Wheels with Performance Tyres and a heck of a lot of turbonite.

Heated seats and Heated Stearing Wheel are a must. When I turn them on the range doesn't decrease so I can only assume they run off the normal battery, as opposed to air con which definitely DOES run off the main battery. Even using SatNav reduces range very slightly for some reason ??

I chose Roof Rails - they do look better than the flat roof on my bro's.

Agreed on the Panoramic. We also took Electric Charging Cover. Illuminated Seat badges and Crests on Head Rests are nice to have too.

I deleted ALL Model designation. My bro didn't.

I didn't go for Head Up Display, my bro did. I would have accepted it as standard but it wasn't.

I was happy with the standard Bose system, my bro went for Burmester. Not sure I would be able to tell the difference but he is in a band.

They gave us granny chargers FOC. They gave us some Exterior Protection FOC. They gave us a small discount. Simply because we asked.

My bro took Comfort Access Keyless Entry, I didn't. He was right, I was wrong. I got used to Tesla Model S opening up as I approached it.

He took Rear Axle Steering as he lives in a tight cul-de-sac. I don't.

First thing I do when driving the Porsche is turn off the speed limit warning, turn on the Electric Sport sound (yes I'm childish) and turn off the Lane Control as it annoys the duck out of me.

At 11kw Charging Speed and a reduced Range the Porsche needs more thinking than the Model S but it's much more of a car than a gadget.

Hope you enjoy the buying experience.

[Discombobulate]

Jockman said:

I went for Jet Black and the RS Spyder wheels My brother chose Painted Wheels with Performance Tyres and a heck of a lot of turbonite.

Heated seats and Heated Stearing Wheel are a must. When I turn them on the range doesn't decrease so I can only assume they run off the normal battery, as opposed to air con which definitely DOES run off the main battery. Even using SatNav reduces range very slightly for some reason ??

I chose Roof Rails - they do look better than the flat roof on my bro's.

Agreed on the Panoramic. We also took Electric Charging Cover. Illuminated Seat badges and Crests on Head Rests are nice to have too.

I deleted ALL Model designation. My bro didn't.

I didn't go for Head Up Display, my bro did. I would have accepted it as standard but it wasn't.

I was happy with the standard Bose system, my bro went for Burmester. Not sure I would be able to tell the difference but he is in a band.

They gave us granny chargers FOC. They gave us some Exterior Protection FOC. They gave us a small discount. Simply because we asked.

My bro took Comfort Access Keyless Entry, I didn't. He was right, I was wrong. I got used to Tesla Model S opening up as I approached it.

He took Rear Axle Steering as he lives in a tight cul-de-sac. I don't.

First thing I do when driving the Porsche is turn off the speed limit warning, turn on the Electric Sport sound (yes I'm childish) and turn off the Lane Control as it annoys the duck out of me.

At 11kw Charging Speed and a reduced Range the Porsche needs more thinking than the Model S but it's much more of a car than a gadget.

Hope you enjoy the buying experience.

Regarding the heated seats and steering wheel, even if the 12V battery (s) supplies them it will depend on the main traction one for top up so will affect range (although the guess-o-meter range predictor may not always reflect that initially).
Sadly even Porsche can't get energy from nowhere
PS the sat nav can affect range, but not because of power consumption (which is negligible) but because it knows your route and adjusts for the type of roads and likely average speeds.

Edited by Discombobulate on Sunday 9th February 18:46

[Murph7355]

"Illuminated seat badges"?

[Jockman]

Murph7355 said:

"Illuminated seat badges"?

Bonjour Murph me old China. Yes, I have never seen an options list as detailed as a Porsche !,

[mattybrown]

South tdf said:

Have finally worked out my order. As it’s a company car I need to be sensible with options and amazingly it is better to go for a Turbo rather than an optioned up 4S

Can any owners suggest any essentials I am missing?

Macan Turbo Electric
Dolomite Silver Metallic
22-inch Macan Sport Wheels
Extended Leather Interior in Black
Exterior mirrors painted in exterior colour
Side window trims in Black high gloss
Sideblades painted in exterior colour
Panoramic roof
River wiper
Privacy glass
Accent Package Silvershade
Seat centres in contrast Chalk Beige
Surround view with active park

We have had our Turbo since October. It’s pretty well specced as standard, the one thing I would suggest looking into is rear wheel steering. We didn’t go for HUD but drove one with on a test drive after our car was built and would have been tempted but you have to draw the line somewhere.

[Jockman]

Discombobulate said:

Regarding the heated seats and steering wheel, even if the 12V battery (s) supplies them it will depend on the main traction one for top up so will affect range (although the guess-o-meter range predictor may not always reflect that initially).
Sadly even Porsche can't get energy from nowhere
PS the sat nav can affect range, but not because of power consumption (which is negligible) but because it knows your route and adjusts for the type of roads and likely average speeds.

Edited by Discombobulate on Sunday 9th February 18:46

Thanks for the education.

I'm used to regen braking so it took a while to sink in that I'll have to use my brakes a lot more as Porsche don't do that in any meaningful way. I sort of get the point that the power generated by it is simply used again to get back to the original speed.

Default setting on the 3 Pin Charger is set at 50% so I quickly changed that.

Using the Porsche MSP card is excellent and I get 32.5p + vat per kwh at the Dealers & Ionity, and rates discounted to 49.17p + vat for DC charging elsewhere. Tesla public superchargers are different (obviously) and the one I still use sells to me at 42.5p + vat.

Thoroughly enjoying the experience.

[Murph7355]

Jockman said:

Bonjour Murph me old China. Yes, I have never seen an options list as detailed as a Porsche !,

Good day Jockers.

We need photos of illuminated seat badges! Are they so those of advancing years know where the seats are in the dark?

[Jockman]

Murph7355 said:

Good day Jockers.

We need photos of illuminated seat badges! Are they so those of advancing years know where the seats are in the dark?

Oh don't you worry about me Murph - I'm still in fine fettle

[bennno]

Jockman said:

Murph7355 said:

Good day Jockers.

We need photos of illuminated seat badges! Are they so those of advancing years know where the seats are in the dark?

Oh don't you worry about me Murph - I'm still in fine fettle

Its a very strong brand when people will pay Porsche a few hundred to have their seats emblazoned with illuminated adverts.

[Discombobulate]

Jockman said:

Thanks for the education.

I'm used to regen braking so it took a while to sink in that I'll have to use my brakes a lot more as Porsche don't do that in any meaningful way. I sort of get the point that the power generated by it is simply used again to get back to the original speed.

Default setting on the 3 Pin Charger is set at 50% so I quickly changed that.

Using the Porsche MSP card is excellent and I get 32.5p + vat per kwh at the Dealers & Ionity, and rates discounted to 49.17p + vat for DC charging elsewhere. Tesla public superchargers are different (obviously) and the one I still use sells to me at 42.5p + vat.

Thoroughly enjoying the experience.

I am trying one in 2 weeks
Re explanation: sorry, didn't mean to come across as a patronising nerd. Blame the scientist in me

[Jockman]

Discombobulate said:

I am trying one in 2 weeks
Re explanation: sorry, didn't mean to come across as a patronising nerd. Blame the scientist in me

Not at all, I appreciate your input.

[Cobnapint]

I've just had a base Macan EV as a loan car all day while my ICE Macan S was in for a service. Weather - kissing it down.
My thoughts...

The important bits on the spec sheet were:

21 - inch Macan Turbo wheels
PASM
Comfort seats 14-way
Sport Chrono

...and that's it. No air, no power steering plus, no rear axle steering, no rear wiper.

Stepping in to this after an ICE Macan feels like you've jumped forward a couple of decades. Nice and quiet, smooth, instant and very strong acceleration without the head bobbing of auto gearbox changes, and without the neck ache dished out by even faster EVs.
The thrust feels about right for the road tbh. But in the wet there's so much torque, pulling out at a junction you can feel minimal squirm at the rear getting checked by the electronics, and while this isn't really a problem, I can't help feel a Macan 4 might be a better proposition (although what effect this would have on the EV's steering purity is an unknown to me. I do know how 4WD affects the ICE Macan's steering though, it numbs it a little. The base ICE Macan's steering is perfect).
Blasting down a wet country lane too left me thinking 4WD would be more reassuring, even though I know Porsche's ESC systems are first rate.

The ride was very good. Slightly lumpy the odd time and it asked for forgiveness at higher speed impacts over speed humps, but overall no complaints.

Comfort - the 14-way seats in this are excellent and more comfortable than the 14-ways in my ICE version. So much so I can't see why you'd go for 18-ways unless you were a tracker.
You don't seem to sit at a slight offset feet-to-the-right angle in the EV either.

Steering - good feel at speed and around town but needs power steering plus speccing as it's a bit cumbersome at lower/parking speeds.

Handling - top notch. Yes, you can feel the weight a little, but it goes round corners like it's on the proverbial rails. Excellent.

Niggles - It was raining and if you're used to having a rear wiper you'll miss it if you don't spec it. Even at speed the window remained covered in water making visibility very poor.
Also, they've changed the button arrangement on the key fob to include a frunk lid button which now resides (logically I suppose) at the front end of the fob. So if you're used to unlocking your car by pressing this place on the fob without looking, you'll undo the frunk, so muscle memory reset required.
The dash mounted gear shifter is easier than I thought but I still found myself wanting to rest my left hand on top one in the centre which wasn't there. Again, would get used to it.
And, the lid on top of the centre arm rest doesn't come comfortably enough forward. I found my elbow only just making it onto the leading 1 inch, and my seat was quite a way back.
And the interior door release pull doesn't feel right. It needs to be a closed loop handle, not simply a single arm lever.

But overall, I don't think anybody that orders one of these is going to be disappointed.
It's an absolutely lovely thing.

[Discombobulate]

Cobnapint said:

I've just had a base Macan EV as a loan car all day while my ICE Macan S was in for a service. Weather - kissing it down.
My thoughts...

The important bits on the spec sheet were:

21 - inch Macan Turbo wheels
PASM
Comfort seats 14-way
Sport Chrono

...and that's it. No air, no power steering plus, no rear axle steering, no rear wiper.

Stepping in to this after an ICE Macan feels like you've jumped forward a couple of decades. Nice and quiet, smooth, instant and very strong acceleration without the head bobbing of auto gearbox changes, and without the neck ache dished out by even faster EVs.
The thrust feels about right for the road tbh. But in the wet there's so much torque, pulling out at a junction you can feel minimal squirm at the rear getting checked by the electronics, and while this isn't really a problem, I can't help feel a Macan 4 might be a better proposition (although what effect this would have on the EV's steering purity is an unknown to me. I do know how 4WD affects the ICE Macan's steering though, it numbs it a little. The base ICE Macan's steering is perfect).
Blasting down a wet country lane too left me thinking 4WD would be more reassuring, even though I know Porsche's ESC systems are first rate.

The ride was very good. Slightly lumpy the odd time and it asked for forgiveness at higher speed impacts over speed humps, but overall no complaints.

Comfort - the 14-way seats in this are excellent and more comfortable than the 14-ways in my ICE version. So much so I can't see why you'd go for 18-ways unless you were a tracker.
You don't seem to sit at a slight offset feet-to-the-right angle in the EV either.

Steering - good feel at speed and around town but needs power steering plus speccing as it's a bit cumbersome at lower/parking speeds.

Handling - top notch. Yes, you can feel the weight a little, but it goes round corners like it's on the proverbial rails. Excellent.

Niggles - It was raining and if you're used to having a rear wiper you'll miss it if you don't spec it. Even at speed the window remained covered in water making visibility very poor.
Also, they've changed the button arrangement on the key fob to include a frunk lid button which now resides (logically I suppose) at the front end of the fob. So if you're used to unlocking your car by pressing this place on the fob without looking, you'll undo the frunk, so muscle memory reset required.
The dash mounted gear shifter is easier than I thought but I still found myself wanting to rest my left hand on top one in the centre which wasn't there. Again, would get used to it.
And, the lid on top of the centre arm rest doesn't come comfortably enough forward. I found my elbow only just making it onto the leading 1 inch, and my seat was quite a way back.
And the interior door release pull doesn't feel right. It needs to be a closed loop handle, not simply a single arm lever.

But overall, I don't think anybody that orders one of these is going to be disappointed.
It's an absolutely lovely thing.

Just had one for 24 hours. Similar spec but on 22s with air.

I actually didn't think it was as quick as I hoped and it felt a bit sluggish after my iPace. Still quick but not for an EV and you notice the weight. It had an annoying rattle in the dash too, but otherwise seemed well screwed together.
Also the air suspension on 22s gives an odd ride on bumpy roads - it has a slightly shimmy / shudder when caught out by uneven surfaces.
Taycan is much better in this respect.
Summary: I would spec 4S for extra oomph, and on coils if going Macan. But we have decided on a used Gen 2 CT Taycan.

[Cobnapint]

Nice one. The Taycan is just brilliant.

[VerySideways]

Cobnapint said:

I've just had a base Macan EV as a loan car all day while my ICE Macan S was in for a service. Weather - kissing it down.
My thoughts...

The thrust feels about right for the road tbh. But in the wet there's so much torque, pulling out at a junction you can feel minimal squirm at the rear getting checked by the electronics, and while this isn't really a problem, I can't help feel a Macan 4 might be a better proposition (although what effect this would have on the EV's steering purity is an unknown to me. I do know how 4WD affects the ICE Macan's steering though, it numbs it a little. The base ICE Macan's steering is perfect).
Blasting down a wet country lane too left me thinking 4WD would be more reassuring, even though I know Porsche's ESC systems are first rate.

Did you try it in Sport or Sport Plus by any chance?

FYI the 4wd Macans are 110kg heavier on the front axle, in fact the turbo is something like 175kg heavier than the base 2wd steel-sprung car, so i reckon the steering would definitely be impacted by the extra weight over the front end.
I certainly found that comparing i4 40e to i4 M50, steering difference between those two was night and day.

[Cobnapint]

VerySideways said:

Did you try it in Sport or Sport Plus by any chance?

FYI the 4wd Macans are 110kg heavier on the front axle, in fact the turbo is something like 175kg heavier than the base 2wd steel-sprung car, so i reckon the steering would definitely be impacted by the extra weight over the front end.
I certainly found that comparing i4 40e to i4 M50, steering difference between those two was night and day.

Yes, briefly. It firms the dampers up obviously, and sharpens the throttle but I prefer a smoother ride so switched back to normal.

Yes, I can imagine the steering would get screwed up with that extra weight, just like the Macan S vs the base 2.0.

[Sim75]

Picked up my 4 last week and absolutely love it! It’s my first Porsche and first EV. Mine’s on 22s with adaptive (non-air) suspension, and it glides like a cloud compared to the BMW X3 M40i it replaced. Performance-wise, it’s definitely on par with the X3, which feels on point for this type of car. That said, the BMW had noticeably better pickup at higher motorway speeds.

Not starting an engine will take some getting used to, but as far as EVs go, this is about as good as I could have hoped for. I obsessed over the spec, but so far, zero regrets. Oh, and the standard stereo is surprisingly good.

Edited by Sim75 on Monday 10th March 13:39