2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)
Discussion
LukeBrown66 said:
Oh for God's sake, you really do not help do you, it really makes zero difference to the point I was making, but as we have seen before you are the type of person to make petty comments over nothing than to argue the real point here. I leave you to it.
Pot and kettle, me thinks.
LukeBrown66 said:
Oh for God's sake, you really do not help do you, it really makes zero difference to the point I was making, but as we have seen before you are the type of person to make petty comments over nothing than to argue the real point here. I leave you to it.
OTIt makes a big difference to me as I'm sick of some British people claiming my countrymen as their own. I'm Irish, not British, he's Irish, not British. Though it might seem like it to you, It's not a trivial thing to us...
Apologies for the rant.
epom said:
There are a load of GB registered rally cars in Eire. In the case of that one, you can see why the identity is important and the owners over the years wouldn't want to lose it (Ex Brookes Andrews car then Irish rallying hero Frank Meagher) but outside of that, is it due to the punitive VED rates in Eire? So the cars are never registered locally and the lack of UK VED is never caught up with?LastPoster said:
epom said:
There are a load of GB registered rally cars in Eire. In the case of that one, you can see why the identity is important and the owners over the years wouldn't want to lose it (Ex Brookes Andrews car then Irish rallying hero Frank Meagher) but outside of that, is it due to the punitive VED rates in Eire? So the cars are never registered locally and the lack of UK VED is never caught up with?On the earlier points - Lads we have a different flag for a reason... plus a different passport, that alot of you probably have anyway..
It makes a hell of a difference calling an Irish person British... but my kids do it to wind me up,,,
No one in ireland calls it Eire, the last time i said Eire was probably during the Leaving cert same way nobody here says
'to be sure - unless extra ropes are needed to tie a load down..'
'top of the morning' this was invented by americans.'
On rallying, can anyone explain as to why therenever seem to be any Lancia's at these historic rallys??? n
I thought the cost difference of VED was more than it actually is (about £300 per year for that Sierra)
On Youtube, Jonny Smiths Late Brake Show featured David Kedward who uses his 037 on historic events. By MSUK rules, on competitive events the turbo group B cars may have to run a restrictor which would put some off I expect
On Youtube, Jonny Smiths Late Brake Show featured David Kedward who uses his 037 on historic events. By MSUK rules, on competitive events the turbo group B cars may have to run a restrictor which would put some off I expect
Be interested to know about kedwards E2 205, I am not sure it sounds like one! Whenever I have seen it it sounds like a road car, maybe he has a road engine installed to safeguard the original one? But like Furbers that always looked like an E2 but it was in fact Woodners E1 from 85. DAve's certainly looks the part with the right wheels etc, but it sounds like a basic 205 road car, the rally cars always sounded far more aggressive
LukeBrown66 said:
Be interested to know about kedwards E2 205, I am not sure it sounds like one! Whenever I have seen it it sounds like a road car, maybe he has a road engine installed to safeguard the original one? But like Furbers that always looked like an E2 but it was in fact Woodners E1 from 85. DAve's certainly looks the part with the right wheels etc, but it sounds like a basic 205 road car, the rally cars always sounded far more aggressive
Here you go (read the descriptionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT8EmJCmkNQ
The Gary Midwinter mentioned also owned the Quattro in the video
If you are actually running one of these types of car, you can get all of the power & more torque with modern management without the extremes of set up that resulted in very short engine life
LukeBrown66 said:
Oh for God's sake, you really do not help do you, it really makes zero difference to the point I was making, but as we have seen before you are the type of person to make petty comments over nothing than to argue the real point here. I leave you to it.
Actually it makes quite a big difference to the point I felt you were making - because the rallying culture in Ireland is massively different to that in GB. Ireland's rallying in steeped in closed-public-road history, with huge engagement between the sport and the affected communities. The drivers themselves are proportionally much better known amongst the general public than their equivalent n GB. The economic health of the sport in Ireland always seems to have been much better, remember the days when Prodrive's best customers were over there? Nowadays we have the MI Rally Academy / Team Ireland Foundation which is miles ahead of anything Motorsport UK are doing.
So I think it's quite important to not lump Irish in with British when it comes to rallying. Quite apart from the actual cultural and historical insensitivities of doing so, as others have pointed out.
But yeah - "petty comments" aren't they? I'll leave you to it.
thepawbroon said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Oh for God's sake, you really do not help do you, it really makes zero difference to the point I was making, but as we have seen before you are the type of person to make petty comments over nothing than to argue the real point here. I leave you to it.
Actually it makes quite a big difference to the point I felt you were making - because the rallying culture in Ireland is massively different to that in GB. Ireland's rallying in steeped in closed-public-road history, with huge engagement between the sport and the affected communities. The drivers themselves are proportionally much better known amongst the general public than their equivalent n GB. The economic health of the sport in Ireland always seems to have been much better, remember the days when Prodrive's best customers were over there? Nowadays we have the MI Rally Academy / Team Ireland Foundation which is miles ahead of anything Motorsport UK are doing.
So I think it's quite important to not lump Irish in with British when it comes to rallying. Quite apart from the actual cultural and historical insensitivities of doing so, as others have pointed out.
But yeah - "petty comments" aren't they? I'll leave you to it.
for their driving ability and also their ability at repairing dry stone walls on the following weekends.
In ireland it is far easier to obtain permission to actually run a rally. The Gardai are alot easier to deal with and less permits required. The biggest issues are often with local clubs when money goes missing, or the young lads after the rally trying to reenact what they've just seen on the way home.
The REAL point being made had absolutely nothing to do with driver nationalities in that way, it was simply a point made that a guy at the very top of his game was doing a rally in Belgium in a lovely car, and the same thing happened in Ireland.
others decided to take the whole thing into the realms of identity for their own reasons, mainly aimed at smearing me, which is rather sad and pathetic when one of that was even thought about on typing.
As said before this is how some people are, it has no relevance whatsoever to the topic, but again, some people have little interest in topics and far more in nitpicking pathetic detail.
AS said, you are welcome to it, it suits you, as very well evidenced.
others decided to take the whole thing into the realms of identity for their own reasons, mainly aimed at smearing me, which is rather sad and pathetic when one of that was even thought about on typing.
As said before this is how some people are, it has no relevance whatsoever to the topic, but again, some people have little interest in topics and far more in nitpicking pathetic detail.
AS said, you are welcome to it, it suits you, as very well evidenced.
confucuis said:
It makes a big difference to me as I'm sick of some British people claiming my countrymen as their own. I'm Irish, not British, he's Irish, not British. Though it might seem like it to you, It's not a trivial thing to us...
Apologies for the rant.
This crew have gained some fans over the weekend,Apologies for the rant.
Sideways Media editing up a special..SS 1-11th SS2-11th SS3 - 8th SS4-7th - 1st 2WD & 7th O/all
Hardly their backyard too
Great watch.Maxdecel said:
This crew have gained some fans over the weekend,
Sideways Media editing up a special..SS 1-11th SS2-11th SS3 - 8th SS4-7th - 1st 2WD & 7th O/all
Hardly their backyard tooGreat watch.
They were absolutely awesome. 11th fastest in the dark on Friday night was incredible enough but then 7th on the 19 mile SS4 through Grizedale against supposedly faster 4wd machinery was amazing. Sideways everywhere at full chat. A joy to watch.Sideways Media editing up a special..SS 1-11th SS2-11th SS3 - 8th SS4-7th - 1st 2WD & 7th O/all
Hardly their backyard too
Great watch.https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-adamo-believes...
He actually makes a fair few points; the problem is too many in the WRC have their heads buried in the sand.....
He actually makes a fair few points; the problem is too many in the WRC have their heads buried in the sand.....
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