RE: Official: 2022 INEOS Grenadier priced from £49k

[Andeh1]

AMTony said:

What do you think will be the ‘must have’ options?

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Probably a Land Rover defender.

[mikey_b]

AMTony said:

Some strange quirks when ordering eg on the commercial vehicle the unticking the side panels to get glass.

Might that be a tax thing? Thinking commercial vehicle vs a car, and company car tax. I’m sure there are some funny rules around rear seats in that regard.

[JOB2.5-16]

AMTony said:

Order books open

Showing Feb 23 for build date so heaven only knows how many orders must have been taken.

Some strange quirks when ordering eg on the commercial vehicle the unticking the side panels to get glass.

What do you think will be the ‘must have’ options?

Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.

I ordered mine yesterday but had 'reserved' a build slot in September last year. My build date is showing as Nov 22. According to the dealer in Nottingham, the earliest UK production they've seen allocated to an order is October, the chaps on the Grenadier forum (yes, that already exists) are suggesting spec might have impact on production batching for the order of earliest UK orders. Early reservists from Germany seem to be allocated September production slots; presumably making the first batch LHD before switching to RHD in October. I also wondered if the German market receiving theirs first would be some stipulation of the BMW / Magna-Steyr partnership. Oh, before anyone jumps on the Brexit bandwagon, I couldn't give a flier about it being developed by Germans and built in a Mercedes factory in France. At least the Germans have a habit of building things 'properly'.

Re rear window panels: the 5 seat utility / station wagon (non-Belstaff editions) model is a commercial vehicle by classification and taxation; hence it must come with no rear windows as standard to meet type approval. Offering windows as a no cost option is a sneaky way around what is ultimately a tax fiddle.

[mikemike39]

I ordered mine on 18May. Had reserved slot with deposit from last year. Oct22 build slot. It's a 5 seat commercial version. I don't have any way to benefit from the commercial tax treatment but it's the spec I want.

Worth knowing that the commercial version has a longer load bay and therefore less rear legroom by I think 100mm

Mike

[Snow and Rocks]

Max_Torque said:

Whilst i totally agree about the reliability point (which is indeed make or break) i'm not sure that many in developing nations "need" a 50k starting price 4x4?

You could buy two cheap jap pickups for the same money after all.......

Whilst i agree about the probable lack of demand from developing countries, have you priced a Hilux recently?

[Silvanus]

Snow and Rocks said:

Max_Torque said:

Whilst i totally agree about the reliability point (which is indeed make or break) i'm not sure that many in developing nations "need" a 50k starting price 4x4?

You could buy two cheap jap pickups for the same money after all.......

Whilst i agree about the probable lack of demand from developing countries, have you priced a Hilux recently?

They start at 31k, much cheaper than the ineos

[AMTony]

mikey_b said:

AMTony said:

Some strange quirks when ordering eg on the commercial vehicle the unticking the side panels to get glass.

Might that be a tax thing? Thinking commercial vehicle vs a car, and company car tax. I’m sure there are some funny rules around rear seats in that regard.

Seems too good to be true!
Have ordered the commercial variant and put the glass back in - its still a commercial vehicle.
This will kill pickups for those that want to run a 5 seater on virtually zero BIK, will also tow 3.5T as well.

[Snow and Rocks]

Silvanus said:

They start at 31k, much cheaper than the ineos

Cheaper but not by nearly as much as people make out. The high spec 2.8 that most of the farmers round here seem to own is not far off £50k.

I'm delighted with my Hilux (a crew cab active) but it was cheap when i bought it a few years back. Not sure how comfortable i would be paying £35k for the same truck today.

[dxg]

Here's someone having a *good* poke around one.

Lots of fit and finish issues, rust (I liked the snorkel mount the most) and what seems like poor quality plastics...

https://youtu.be/z6f4-FDSil8?t=91

[matt21]

Saw one of these at my local BMW dealer today. Didn’t realised they were being sold through the BMW network. It did look great in the flesh

[silentbrown]

Thread title is a little out of date now. £55k entry level, and I think there's still a question mark over first year VED...

[Silvanus]

matt21 said:

Saw one of these at my local BMW dealer today. Didn’t realised they were being sold through the BMW network. It did look great in the flesh

They aren't... maybe one has gone wrong

[Snow and Rocks]

Interesting that the website mentions a 5 seat commercial version - I wonder if they've managed to get the payload high enough to qualify for the same tax breaks as a double cab pickup?

[WelshPetrolhead]

According to the Ineos Website there are a couple of sites for sales that are BMW Dealers though, just not the whole network.

Ocean Plymouth
Halliwell Jones Chester
Lloyd Carlisle

Interestingly a couple of sites are Aston Martin dealers, and then to mix it up further there are a couple that are agricultural vehicle (& Ssangyong) Dealers!

[Digga]

Snow and Rocks said:

Interesting that the website mentions a 5 seat commercial version - I wonder if they've managed to get the payload high enough to qualify for the same tax breaks as a double cab pickup?

Might sell well if they have cracked the magic tonne payload for BIK. Could ride like and empty 2 seat HiLux if they have that sort of payload, but really won’t be a huge issue.

[ChocolateFrog]

silentbrown said:

Thread title is a little out of date now. £55k entry level, and I think there's still a question mark over first year VED...

I was just thinking how £49k in the thread title suddenly didn't seem unreasonable as inflation came to meet the price