Legends Race Car For The Road

Legends Race Car For The Road

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White Car

Original Poster:

5 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Hi Guys,
I'm looking at getting a Legends race car for a bit of fun.

Is it possible to put these on the road or is it a lame duck before I get started due to some blaringly obvious reason?

Im not fussed about a Q plate etc.

Cheers for any help.

marshalla

15,902 posts

204 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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All things are possible, if you have the time and the money

You just need to make it pass IVA : https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-veh...

White Car

Original Poster:

5 posts

166 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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Thank you.

Are there companies that can get a vehicle ready and pass an IVA on my behalf?

I tend to start things and then not finish them. [I've learnt to make peace with this fact]

Edited by White Car on Tuesday 7th April 15:27

Boostaddiction

16 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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The paperwork you sign from 600 Racing (or INEX) when you buy the car says you will never register or drive the car on the street.


White Car

Original Poster:

5 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Does this apply to buying a second hand vehicle?


hkp57

285 posts

125 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Unless you have very deep pockets to pay the company that would take it on I would say its a lame duck. The costs to do some of the things I have listed below may be to much and you will have to modify the bodywork. It can all be done but unless you build it that way originally it will be a lot of work.

Exterior Projections, very stringent on sharp edges etc should you collide with a pedestrian
You would have to extend the wheel arches to cover the entire width of the tyres.

Mirrors need to be very carefully placed
Lights
Reverse gear required or an electric reverse
Windows (cant find a definition on this, I know you can have no roof or windscreen but not sure how it would work with having a roof and window openings)
Wash wiper
demister
Collapsable steering column
Immobiliser
Non-bias brakes
interior projections (all interior parts to have a certain radius etc) to protect you in a crash.
Noise
Horn
Seatbelt position

All possible but more than it worth

headrush

2,062 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Could it be much worse than IVA'ing a UVA Fugitive (which has been done)?

White Car

Original Poster:

5 posts

166 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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All of the above doesn't worry me,

Apart from the window question which we'll have to look into.

Is there a company that will put a car through IVA on my behalf?

spaximus

4,263 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Anything can be overcome. The window is an easy one as it is flat glass and Pilkingtons will do that properly marked up.
Southways Auto's would be worth a look and the other that springs to mind is Vince? at vindicator cars, click on the link below and you will see one he did that everyone said was a none starter.

The but for me is why do it? On the road it will be too fast to enjoy, so if it is as a gimmick then fine other wise just keep it for the track.

http://www.vindicator.co.uk/pages/services.htm

http://www.southwaysautomotive.co.uk/

Frankthered

1,627 posts

183 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Soothsays is a good shout.

Arden Automotive would be another. Doesn't sound easy or cheap, though.

Fury1630

393 posts

230 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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"Exterior Projections, very stringent on sharp edges etc should you collide with a pedestrian
You would have to extend the wheel arches to cover the entire width of the tyres."
Or fit narrower wheels?

"Mirrors need to be very carefully placed"
Don't see a problem here

"Lights"
Don't see a problem here either

"Reverse gear required or an electric reverse"
Lots of options already on the market

"Windows (cant find a definition on this, I know you can have no roof or windscreen but not sure how it would work with having a roof and window openings)"
If it's that much of a problem, cut the roof off & re-attach after IVA, but as has been said, there are plenty of places that can cut, mark & fit flat glass.

"Wash wiper"
Again, don't see the problem here, it's been done before, or if going roof-less it's not required.

"demister"
plenty of options on the market, see "car Builder Solutions" website, or - again, only a problem if you IVA with a screen.

"Collapsable steering column"
Easy enough to find in a scrappy

"Immobiliser"
Simple

"Non-bias brakes"
simply lock off the bias ones as stated in the IVA manual

"interior projections (all interior parts to have a certain radius etc) to protect you in a crash."
Put some upholstery in it.

"Noise"
Put a silencer on it

"Horn"
Put a horn on it

"Seatbelt position"
This is perhaps the tricky one - you'll have to prove the mounts are strong enough, but it's not insurmountable as anyone who's registered a self-build will attest.

"All possible but more than it worth"
I'd say that was down to the OP wouldn't you?

There's nothing there that a lot of kit builders don't already deal with unless they're building a "snap-together" Cateringvan or somesuch where there's no engineering to do.

White Car

Original Poster:

5 posts

166 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Thank you all for your help.

I think this will be a go then as it seems to be possible.

Also to fast depends on what you class as fast. [Although you're prob right smile ]

smokey mow

972 posts

203 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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There is at least onel Legend car that has been made road legal which I've spotted a few times parked up in the paddock at Brands Hatch for the british truck racing/ legends races.

Edited by smokey mow on Friday 10th April 22:14

Rocketracer75

1 posts

64 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Ok couple of things here as for running with a window this is not a requirement for an MOT /IVA test even if you have a roof. Bonus is you don't need window washer or wipers either. As for the wheel sticking out you get an inch or so . So slightly narrower wheels will sort that and the steering column is collapseable in a legends race car every thing is pretty easy to sort .

foggy

1,167 posts

285 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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A challenging project but nothing insurmountable that couldn’t be achieved given time and cash I’d say. Just read the IVA manual and make a big checklist or pay someone who knows what they’re doing.

Would make a fun road car and certainly turn heads. Bike engined cars are an acquired taste on the road in my experience but deliver something akin to a racer feel with the revs and punching up through the sequential box.

Go into it informed with eyes wide open and it’d be very rewarding to achieve and then drive I’m sure. A project for the heart rather than head to have something almost unique. Don’t go into it ever expecting to recoup your investment time and cash wise mind...

hkp57

285 posts

125 months

Wednesday 6th March 2019
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As other have said it is all possible with a lot of work, where are you based?

Somebody even registered a Brisca F1 stock car for the road.

Download the IVA manual here

No windows required either!

"Note 6: The fitting of window ‘glass’ is not mandatory but where fitted it must
be assessed according to the required standards and if it is obvious the
window has been deliberately removed for the purpose of the test then the
window can be considered missing.
To confirm that the window has been deliberately removed an examiner
should ensure that there are no window mechanisms, runners etc. or other
window fixings that would indicate that a window should be fitted. If it is
clear that, without modification, a window can be fitted then the window is
to be considered missing."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...



Edited by hkp57 on Wednesday 6th March 03:18

Morant85

13 posts

12 months

Monday 3rd June
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Do these cars ever come up for restoration or barn find , just fancy one for tinkering around with ?

Morant85

13 posts

12 months

Monday 3rd June
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Do these cars ever come up for restoration or barn find , just fancy one for tinkering around with ?

Ambleton

6,824 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd June
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https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1447...

Whole load of them for sale here - they'll even do bulk discount!

No affiliatiom with seller/series at all. Just a quick search....

Morant85

13 posts

12 months

Monday 3rd June
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Thanks for your reply , forgot to say I’m in the uk