BMW Z3 with Ferrari 250 SWB kit

BMW Z3 with Ferrari 250 SWB kit

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pingu393

4,295 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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GTRene said:
pingu393 said:
Thanks for finding that. I found this by reverse searching the images you posted...

I can't tell the size of the tyres, but they look like 17". I'm going to source a cheap 16" wheel and see if I can make it fit. At least I am now confident that 15" is too small, unless you are basing the build on a 2.8 (or smaller).
http://www.righthanddrivesportscars.nl/page26.html
It looks like a real bargain. It would be very difficult to build one for that price.

GTRene

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11,863 posts

185 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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pingu393 said:
It looks like a real bargain. It would be very difficult to build one for that price.
indeed it is, a Z3M with that low mileage to start with cost already more in most cases.
this one was build a few years ago, in the time were a Z3M could be bought for not to much, thats why it could be offered at that price and that compagnie build it themselves I believe, otherwise not possible for that money.

1602Mark

14,318 posts

134 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Obviously it's just a personal thing but I much prefer the look of the roadster over the coupé. I love a silver track prepared example on Minilites or wide steels.

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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pingu393 said:
I assume that you used 15" wheels.

What front brakes did you use? I'm trying to use 330 calipers on M Roadster carriers, and the amount of metal that I have had to grind off the calipers makes them dangerous. The thickness has had to be reduced from 22mm to 12mm. It's obviously not the way to go.

I've tried to...

1. 330 carrier, 330 caliper and 330 disc = carrier needs a spacer (5.75mm) to align it with the disc, and the caliper needs to be ground to allow the wheel to fit.
2. M carrier, 330 caliper, 330 disc = M carrier needed to be ground to allow the 330 disc to fit (M disc is 315mm, 330 disc is 325mm), and the caliper needs to be ground to allow the wheel to fit.
3. M carrier, 330 caliper, M disc = The caliper needs to be ground to allow the wheel to fit.

It looks like I may have two options...

1. Look at using 2.8 discs, carriers and calipers.
2. Look at using 16" rims

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I've looked at the 2.8 brakes and I don't think they will be up to the job.

2.8
Disc diameter = 286mm
Pad dimensions = 151 x 57
Power = 193bhp
Smallest steel wheel size = 15"

330 (E46)
Disc diameter = 325mm
Pad dimensions = 156 x 64
Power = 231bhp (and a heavier car)
Smallest steel wheel size = 16"

M
Disc diameter = 315mm
Pad dimensions = 156 x 63
Power = 321bhp
No steel wheels listed on RealOEM

Edited by pingu393 on Wednesday 22 July 21:29
Yes 15” wheels. Blockley 20570/HR15 tyres. Standard 2.8 brakes (albeit overhauled) will give you plenty of stopping power relative to the weight of the completed car

pingu393

4,295 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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ukcerb said:
Yes 15” wheels. Blockley 20570/HR15 tyres. Standard 2.8 brakes (albeit overhauled) will give you plenty of stopping power relative to the weight of the completed car
Thanks for that. I will go for 16" with M brakes (or 330 if I have to) just to get the car built and passed the brake test. Then I will change to 2.8 brakes and test the brakes. Sounds daft, but I've had a throttle jam open on my M and it took all my effort to slow the car. I'm not sure 2.8 brakes would have been up to the task.

I was going to sell the 15" wheels, but you've convinced me to keep them, as they will really look the part.

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Yes the 15” look period with the 70 profile tyres and handle surprisingly well, very predictable handling. Are your 15’s front laced or centre laced?

pingu393

4,295 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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ukcerb said:
Yes the 15” look period with the 70 profile tyres and handle surprisingly well, very predictable handling. Are your 15’s front laced or centre laced?
They are Greenbank "Dunlop" replicas (steel).

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Yes the 15” look period with the 70 profile tyres and handle surprisingly well, very predictable handling. Are your 15’s front laced or centre laced?

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th July 2020
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Good choice. Lighter by a good few kilos and so much easier to clean.

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Just waiting for car shows to return now.

pingu393

4,295 posts

166 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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ukcerb said:
Just waiting for car shows to return now.
Looks really top notch. Do you have any front bumpers? I know Chris does some quarter bumpers, but they are not cheap eek .

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

124 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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I've seen that ^^^^ on the A217 haven't I .

I thought it was a Ferrari ,mainly because I didn't see it up close and parked.

V8RX7

20,953 posts

224 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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ukcerb said:
Just waiting for car shows to return now.
I think you'll be waiting for a long time, they are closing things down rather than opening more up.

grumpy

smash

2,056 posts

189 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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ukcerb said:
Just waiting for car shows to return now.
Roundels look great buddy - race track refugee! Mines back today...

jeff666

1,915 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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ukcerb said:
Just waiting for car shows to return now.
Snap.


ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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I haven’t got any front bumpers. Had a set of fibreglasss ones but prefer the racing look without.

Yes that was probably me on A217. Always keeping an eye on what’s in Romans. Some dream cars in there.

Yes I don’t see any events going ahead this year, I feel sorry for all those people who rely on them for a good chunk of their annual income.

Good colour choice (FER 312 ?) and the Dunlop wheels look good on there too.


NRS

16,519 posts

162 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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ukcerb said:
I haven’t got any front bumpers. Had a set of fibreglasss ones but prefer the racing look without.

Yes that was probably me on A217. Always keeping an eye on what’s in Romans. Some dream cars in there.

Yes I don’t see any events going ahead this year, I feel sorry for all those people who rely on them for a good chunk of their annual income.

Good colour choice (FER 312 ?) and the Dunlop wheels look good on there too.
I wonder if Romans would do anything if you parked beside them with it? Would they worry about reputation of having a "fake" outside, or just not care?

pingu393

4,295 posts

166 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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NRS said:
ukcerb said:
I haven’t got any front bumpers. Had a set of fibreglasss ones but prefer the racing look without.

Yes that was probably me on A217. Always keeping an eye on what’s in Romans. Some dream cars in there.

Yes I don’t see any events going ahead this year, I feel sorry for all those people who rely on them for a good chunk of their annual income.

Good colour choice (FER 312 ?) and the Dunlop wheels look good on there too.
I wonder if Romans would do anything if you parked beside them with it? Would they worry about reputation of having a "fake" outside, or just not care?
I thought the same re Graypaul (Ferrari dealership) in Nottingham.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

124 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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NRS said:
I wonder if Romans would do anything if you parked beside them with it? Would they worry about reputation of having a "fake" outside, or just not care?
I doubt they'd be bothered ,they get all sorts stopping for a look around the forecourts .

Park outside for too long and you might get a parking ticket , wardens in cars drive about looking for sloppy parking .

ukcerb

398 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th August 2020
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Don’t think they’d be bothered. It attracts attention wherever it’s parked and most people are surprised and very complimentary when I tell them it’s not a real one. It will be up for sale in September so maybe I’ll ask Romans if they would like it in their showroom to bring in the punters hehe