seven style car motorbike engined ???

seven style car motorbike engined ???

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Dabler

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2 posts

18 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Hi all new to forum, have many years Motorsport behind me but not currently up to date... trying to find a new car to nurse me back to my racing days.... I like the motorbike engined seven style cars ( especially honda fireblade lol) whats out there for sale and anyone any leads on any unfinished projects or ex race series cars that arn't in retirement age.. any help or guidance be really appreciated..

Dabler

gazza285

7,930 posts

180 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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You might have more chance on Locostbuilders.

Locostbuilders

fred bloggs

721 posts

172 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Motorbike engines are designed to pull about 260 kg with rider. You start pulling 5-600 kg and clutches and gearboxes dont like it.
Personally id rather go with a zetec or mx5 engine.

V88Dicky

7,065 posts

155 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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I love the Caterham style cars, but for me, a four pot wouldn't cut it.

Get one with a V8 biggrin

Julian Thompson

1,859 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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You’d probably like my caterham 7 then.

All carbon fibre and powered by a 1200 dry sumped blackbird motor running DTA management and Jenvey throttles with an all up weight of less than 400kg ready to run....magnesium axle nose, every single item weighed and optimised! (Except me which is definitely a problem!)







daytonavrs

480 posts

56 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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Whats the exhaust can made of Julian ?

Like you I have a blackbird engine, prob in a similar weighing car ( mines a formula ford so well stripped down!)

I had the can off and thought it was bloody heavy and having been a biker previously my thoughts immediately turned to a 2nd hand bike titanium or carbon item. Is yours titanium or stainless ? If its stainless I bet you could shave even more

the av8er

110 posts

95 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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What's your budget?
Any kits in particular take your fancy ?

dhutch

9,446 posts

169 months

Wednesday 24th June 2020
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I have a Westfeild, and there are bike engined westfields. When I was looking, there seemed to a lot of BEC within the MK Indy fold. Locost builders is a good forum for what is. Some Tigers are bike engined. Not sure about bike engine caterhams. There is GBS with the Zero. MNR do a nice looking car.

As said above, the weight goes up and you do end up with uprated clutches, and I understand the BEC can be hard work in traffic, and some engines need a reasonable amount of work and or dry sump or at least accusump to avoid surging in the corners when they don't lean over like a bike. But you can also get sequential shift, flat shifters, and similar power out of an engine and gearbox that weighs the same as my gearbox which in a track or even fast-road car is a thrill. Aeroscreen, full fact, its a 4 wheel motorbike, a race car on the road. Will go like a bat out of hell!

I've got a 2l zetec, full windscreen and side screens, which suited by needs as a car which I can enjoy at all speeds, touring as well as track days, and also used a lot for autotesting.


Daniel

Mistrale

191 posts

115 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Where are you Dabler? Theres a nice looking CBR1000 powered car near me for sale for £6k (Between Grantham and Lincoln)

rehab71

3,362 posts

162 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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My mate has a '7 Style' bike engine car, ZX12. He'll be along shortly I expect...

kitcat7

73 posts

217 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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After 3 years of great motoring, I'm regretfully coming around to selling my well sorted, low mileage Caterham Seven fitted with an R1 170bhp engine. Priced at £15k ono. Is this the sort of thing which would be of interest?

ggdrew

204 posts

96 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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I noticed a trend for twin-bike-engined Westfields when i started entering the Westfield Club's Speed Series around year 2000. Maybe it easier to add a turbo these days?




Furyblade_Lee

4,018 posts

196 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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fred bloggs said:
Motorbike engines are designed to pull about 260 kg with rider. You start pulling 5-600 kg and clutches and gearboxes dont like it.
Personally id rather go with a zetec or mx5 engine.
Sorry Fred, but that is simply not true, and been done to death here ....... The performance from even a (relatively ) lowly bike engine would absolutely destroy a MX5 motor or cooking Zetec, not even in the same league, and several of us have passed 30/40,000 miles in a BEC with no gearbox fails, and we use them for competition. Clutches are an inconvenience of 2 hours and 20-100 quid if they get hammered....

Edited by Furyblade_Lee on Wednesday 1st July 21:42

Yazza54

16,174 posts

153 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Indeed, they will take a lot of abuse.

Turn7

20,585 posts

193 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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BEC's are awesome, but lately, the Ford Ecoboost is the new comer.....some biiiig HP coming out of them....

mikeveal

3,799 posts

222 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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Turn7 said:
BEC's are awesome, but lately, the Ford Ecoboost is the new comer.....some biiiig HP coming out of them....
Looks like the 1.0L Ecoboost is 97Kg + gearbox. Still heavy compared to a 65Kg(ish) Bike engine, which includes the box.

motco

14,235 posts

218 months

Friday 24th July 2020
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There's a Westfield S2000 kit too. Screamer of an engine with one of the very nicest gearchanges ever made.

Edited by motco on Friday 24th July 15:26

R4m

16 posts

33 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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kitcat7 said:
After 3 years of great motoring, I'm regretfully coming around to selling my well sorted, low mileage Caterham Seven fitted with an R1 170bhp engine. Priced at £15k ono. Is this the sort of thing which would be of interest?
Did you ever get round to putting it up for sale?

the av8er

110 posts

95 months

Monday 15th March
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R4m are you looking to buy a 7 style car ??

Thevet

1,603 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th March
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I have a blackbird engine needing a home if anyone is interested?