Track Only Kit Car

Track Only Kit Car

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W211

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3,875 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Hi All,

I have long harboured a desire to build a kit car, and I am now getting into a position where it might just be a reality.

I'm looking at:

- Car will be track only and trailered to the track.
- Budget needs to be relatively controlled. Max £20k build cost, preferably a bit less, if possible
- Id be happy with car or bike engined. I like both.
- Reliability and build quality are more important to me than out and out pace. I've read tales of chassis cracks and shearing suspension components etc on some cars. I really would prefer to steer clear of that kind of problem!

Any thoughts on what to look at regarding makes and models? I have an incredibly long list to wade through at present!

Also, given that is track only, are there any shortcuts in terms of IVA, or build requirements that I can do without?

Are there many kits out there that cater to a track-only user?

fwiw, I used to be a regular trackdayer until work, family and financial commitments removed that particular hobby!

I've previously owned a Caterham, an Elise, a TVR, an Impreza, a Mustang etc etc, you get the idea, I'm not a complete noob, but my spannering skills are limited... and hence the idea behind the kit car... a learning experience as much as anything. So I would want something "relatively" straightforward to build, rather than something that needs a GNVQ in fibreglass laying and 20 years experience on an English wheel.

what do you think Pistonheads, is the above possible?

cheers




annodomini2

6,008 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Any preference on layout? Front-Rear, or mid engined?

W211

Original Poster:

3,875 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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No prefence on layout... I loved my 7 & my Elise fairly equally

annodomini2

6,008 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Take a look at https://www.riotcars.co.uk/

They do a track specific chassis, with car and bike engine options.

P.S. I am not affiliated with them.

W211

Original Poster:

3,875 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Thanks I will take a look... certainly seems like a low weight option!

Turn7

19,299 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Id buy a used Fury Bec, fully strip and rebuild it.

Not much better value for a track car, 12k RPM, 6 speed sequential and sub 600kg.....

Light on tyres and consumables.

I would suggest building a new kit but Im not sure you buy a new kit these days.

W211

Original Poster:

3,875 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Hi Turn7, thanks for the reply...

Was wondering what you meant by the last sentence? I'm out of touch with the kit car world, but I have heard that the kit car industry has seen better days...

Turn7

19,299 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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W211 said:
Hi Turn7, thanks for the reply...

Was wondering what you meant by the last sentence? I'm out of touch with the kit car world, but I have heard that the kit car industry has seen better days...
Rephrased - As you say you wanted build the car, I would say buy a new kit from whoever currently owns the Fury project, but as far as Im aware, the project has been mothballed.

But a quick google finds this, maybe worth an email....

https://www.furysportscars.com/?fbclid=IwAR1xNc9_3...

Munter

30,357 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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Supposed to be one of the simplest is: https://mevltd.co.uk/kit-cars/mev-exocet
Now available to take a MK3 MX5 as a donor as well.

Just not sure its fast/track enough really for what you want.

annodomini2

6,008 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd November 2020
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My friends Sylva Riot is 425kg running a zx9r

Berw

2,842 posts

166 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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If it's track only get a Phoenix not a fury, that's what I did and never regretted it, you don't need the doors etc for the track, look for a second hand IRs chassis and rebuild, cheaper than a new build. I have a Caterham and a Locost, in addition to the Phoenix, the Phoenix is way the best.

W211

Original Poster:

3,875 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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I think Raw now make the Phoenix?

What makes it so good Berw?

Cheers

Berw

2,842 posts

166 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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I think your right on raw, mine was ane ogf chassi built for e by Jp. The suspension is right, geometry etc, and you can buidut up to your spec, mine runs against works R500 and it keeps up. I've buit a few locoststhey just don't come ear the Caterham, I'm told tgatteshort reatrars are just wrong.
You can build the phoenix as you want, mine runs a one of Irs, evo 6 brakes, Rs20det, around 450 bhp in quali trim. 17 inch wheels, one off inttercooler, radiator, manifolds, no light's, instruments or hand brake, fuel tank in passenger seat, one of big arch body. Rf anti roll ar etc.
I'm lucky skilled labour is cheap in Asia so wd fabricate to our own design,
My car started out with a lotus 910 turbo but it couldn't handle the km long straights at Sepang so we rebuilt it. Now on third body.
The basic design is right and the you can buiditasyou want for a good price.

Berw

2,842 posts

166 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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My Phoenix a few years back and my daughter's Locost outside my garage at Sepang, she was 15 then hence the pink colour.

Fastpedeller

3,121 posts

107 months

Sunday 6th December 2020
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What about one of the latest sylva cars?

Equus

10,165 posts

62 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Fastpedeller said:
What about one of the latest sylva cars?
Sylva are no more.

Fastpedeller

3,121 posts

107 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Equus said:
Fastpedeller said:
What about one of the latest sylva cars?
Sylva are no more.
I see there's no website - but have they ceased? A shame if it's the case, as a very good product. Since the ownership change, I believe they were targeting the track market (understandable).

Equus

10,165 posts

62 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Fastpedeller said:
but have they ceased?
Yes, I understand that they've gone altogether.

annodomini2

6,008 posts

212 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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Jeremy Phillips retired 4 years ago, shut up shop with it.

Fastpedeller

3,121 posts

107 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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annodomini2 said:
Jeremy Phillips retired 4 years ago, shut up shop with it.
And IIRC sold all rights to David McBean who was aiming the products towards track users?