So you sold your Ultima, what do you build next Answer is !

So you sold your Ultima, what do you build next Answer is !

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Davi

17,151 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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gtrclive said:



Thats pressure treated Marine ply.... very strong....



ahhh that's Ok then, will be good for wet and dry conditions

Is that suspension perchance the work of someone known to Andy, or is that your own doing?

andygtt

8,337 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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We have a lot of shared contacts and pretty much the same dream to build our own unique supercar..... therefore our approach is very similar even if the end cars will be vastly different.

Davi

17,151 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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was that a yes then?

Got to make the effort to meet up with him again soon. Don't like to pester him until I can physically start, but on the other hand I could be getting a lot ironed out in CAD if I had all the dims for that. Sooo much work, so little time

gtrclive

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4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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The suspension has to take into account more than just bump steer, track width alteration over suspension movement ie plunge, it also has to have the right combination of Effective swing arm length and Roll-centre height, and that will alter depending on your C&G and front to rear Weight split....

So trust me when I say thats where all my moneys gone..... but well worth it when you see that inboard rising rate shocker system.....

gtrclive

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4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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You could save yourself the hassle, and just buy one of my first chassis kits......sorry I mean you could be in the first half dozen.. as I already have a lot of interest.......

PS there will also be a UK demonstrator being built... as not to leave my UK friends in the dark completely....

Davi

17,151 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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aye, after Andy put me on to Steve we met up and had a good long natter about the suspension, it's definitely an area I will be spending a hefty portion of the budget!

How long do you reckon till the body will be ready for unveiling?

vojx

271 posts

203 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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andygtt said:
We have a lot of shared contacts and pretty much the same dream to build our own unique supercar..... therefore our approach is very similar even if the end cars will be vastly different.


once clive starts selling, his won't be unique

BTW, like the design so far - what's the motor from?


Edited by vojx on Thursday 1st March 16:15

andygtt

8,337 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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I'll give you a clue, clive loves V8's

jacko lah

3,297 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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v8owner said:
sounds great clive! I have full admiration for anybody who can design a chassis! there are just so many things to think about..well done!
have you got a body style in mind.. or is that under wraps?

can we see a pic of the chassis?!

good move.. and in canada (lucky s*d!!)


www.paconsulting.com/news/press_release/2000/PR_20000613.htm

Scroll Down - This guy Mark Sealy - I used to work with him. Him and his cousin had built a few chassis. One used an 80's GTM body shell, but in his words "I told them to stuff their chassis and designed my own"

If i remember it had 4 rear shocks and a Lancia Twin Cam

Later he built a v8 Space Framed Beast for Desert Rallying with 5 Rear shocks. He rolled at 90 mph and survived. See if you can contact him via PA. I reckon he'd give a bit of advice. Maybe.

Joe T

487 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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Looks really neat, nice to see some more mid engined kit out there.
Chevy LS? by any chance? if so what sort of spec are you going for?
I also spotted the Porsche box? it looks like it has a rear output flange?

Well Done.

Joe

happy jim

796 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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BTW, like the design so far - what's the motor from?


That'd be an early Chevy LS1 (perimeter head bolts rather than center) with the intake spun round, which means any Gen 3 or Gen 4 LS will fit nicely.

Jim

gtrclive

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4,149 posts

244 months

Thursday 1st March 2007
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LSx motors are the Future for performance and MPG.....emission friendly etc... horse power of first Prototype will be a nominal 400ish, as most of my money has gone into getting it this far...

But there will be a lot more cooling capacity with bigger ally radiators than any of the current crop of Mid engined Kit Cars, plus more airflow into the engine bay to cool say some inter-coolers and a Nice pair of Turbos..

So the game plan will be to get the first Demonstrator up and running, generate some interest and hopefully develop a Turbo Kit that you can buy off my shelf from me, so that will take out the hassle of having to design it your self....

So 400 to 1000bhp..... The choice is yours....

LMPRACER

1 posts

166 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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I have been following PH for a while and this idea has peaked my interest enough to finally post.
GTRClive....as requested, thanks for the offer..please send.




Edited by LMPRACER on Friday 2nd March 11:47

Transmitter Man

4,200 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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How come there hasn't been a decent McLaren rep built...?

Probably because it's not exactly a 'beautiful' car even if, in it's day, it was technically advanced. More functional than aesthetic.

How come there hasn't been a decent F40 rep built...?



Probably something to do with lawyers.

Sorry for off topic.

Phil
79 De Tomaso Longchamp GTS

Joe T

487 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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Still seem to think I have seen something similar to to that chassis, same rear uprights but with an Audi box, same sort of wooden gearbox support. I will troll through my pictures I must have them somewhere.

Fran Hall

135 posts

172 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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Me too.....reminds me of something we spoke to AndyGTT about.
Andy is it one and the same??

Jonty99

4,423 posts

174 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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There has been a decent Ferrari F40 built, by a guy in New Zealand. It was a replica of the GT version with a custom built chassis, and a twin turbo Toyota/Lexus V8.

Theres a clip of it on YouTube at:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RfP6GCrrY

GTWayne

4,595 posts

178 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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Replicas are are well and good if you lust after the real thing but can't / won't afford it but I am all for the new car approach and despite the fact that I know Clive and regard him to be a good friend, I take my hat of to him and his people and wish him all the luck in the world ( and especially in Canada ).

vojx

271 posts

203 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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gtrclive said:
The body will be under wraps until finished, but in the end I hope it will liked by the GP... the sketches so far have met with approval....



i sure hope you've got a BODYWORK designer to do it - there's been too many chassis designers recently who think bodywork design is easy, and end up ruining all the good work

gtrclive

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4,149 posts

244 months

Friday 2nd March 2007
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I know what you mean, and I'm trying not to Shall we say S""" it up...
But I do know there are some details that I love, and look great so are a must have......

Funny enough that F40 has one of the design cues I love and will be using.... See if you can guess which one ???? the lucky winner gets a pint when I meet them....

Come-on lads... Waynes not aloud to reply seeing as he's seen it allready...