Hawk Stratos prices

Hawk Stratos prices

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vojx

271 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th January 2014
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Cheap project anyone?? ex Litton Corse I (which had Hawk Group 4 bodywork). Could be re-bodied back to Stratoic appearance, or whatever. Honda V6, 2.7L, 40k miles, registered 1993.




Edited by vojx on Thursday 16th January 17:20

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

115 months

Thursday 16th January 2014
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vojx said:
Cheap project anyone?? Considering selling my ex Litton Corse I (which had Hawk Group 4 bodywork). Could be re-bodied back to Stratoic appearance, or whatever you wish. Honda V6, 2.7L, 40k miles, registered 1993.
£2000! ? :-o

Darkspeed

120 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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Tried to mail to find out more details but no response.

ChrisJ.

547 posts

220 months

Friday 24th January 2014
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Some panels for the same type of Stratos kit, here:
http://www.stratosec.com/Forum/showthread.php/2363...

'Could help if you need to change it back to 'standard'. No centre tub though.

geeeman

1,258 posts

235 months

Monday 12th May 2014
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steve sutcliffe certainly seems to rate the LB STR !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvs5jRi4h80

GTRene

13,471 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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great looking car.

geeeman

1,258 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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GTRene said:
great looking car.
from some angles looks amazing, others not so much.. hate that some may confuse it with a tr7!

but what i like most is the functional design.. A rally car is a cool thing to drive, unlike many sports cars where looks may be purely for aesthetics and without real function

i also like the integral cage and chassis design. it is even a bit practical

worried though that wheelbase is less than an elise, but with 220 bhp+

GTRene

13,471 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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could be scary and twitchy on the limit biggrin

its also the impact with such car on the road, it has something 'special' you will not be the fastest or have the most elegant looking sports car, but its part of the fun so to say.
its also very known to most car nuts.

maybe its not 'pretty' for a lot people, but love makes blind in some cases I guess ;-)

DeltonaS

3,594 posts

118 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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GTRene said:
could be scary and twitchy on the limit :
The real deal isn't.

Just read that in the Dutch version of Octane (no.1) about an original Stratos Stradale. The writer even made clear that that often repeated traith of the Stratos's handling was a myth. He also mentioned that it's quite light up front, which probably explains why it's not twitchy.


ChrisJ.

547 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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I owned two Hawk Stratos and an S1 Elise.
Even a correctly set up Stratos moves around more on straights, but the way it changes direction on twisty roads is where its strength lies.

The set up of the suspension and steering is critical on a Stratos.
It doesn't matter if it's a genuine Lancia Stratos or a kit replica, they're both adjustable and need to be correct.
Otherwise, they can be horrible.

A Stratos is quite a practical car though. The suspension has lots of travel and is quite compliant.
They have a big boot for luggage and can carry a spare wheel. The Elise has a lot less luggage space, and no spare wheel.

geeeman

1,258 posts

235 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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ChrisJ. said:
A Stratos is quite a practical car though. The suspension has lots of travel and is quite compliant.
They have a big boot for luggage and can carry a spare wheel. The Elise has a lot less luggage space, and no spare wheel.
i like the idea of a sports car that u can use on many surfaces. can have fun on road, track, gravel, and wont be too bad around london speed bumps !

but is it so easy to lose the rear , and hard to recover?

ChrisJ.

547 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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geeeman said:
i like the idea of a sports car that u can use on many surfaces. can have fun on road, track, gravel, and wont be too bad around london speed bumps !

but is it so easy to lose the rear , and hard to recover?
It's actually very difficult to loose the rear. Certainly not in the dry and at anything less than an idiotic speed for the public road.

At very fast road speeds, you'll much more likely loose the front with plough on understeer. If you throw the car into a tight bend and give it a fair bit of throttle, the front will totally wash out. It's all to do with weight transfer and the car's short wheelbase (compared to its track width). You learn to avoid this situation. A Stratos is great for that 'sling shot' out of the corner. It's best not to go into a corner too fast, especially if its a tight radius corner.

The reality is that you never get anywhere near the car's grip limits on the road. If the suspension and steering are set correctly, they're great fun to drive. The twistier the road, the better.

On the loose is a different thing, and here's some 'in car' from someone who hasn't forgotten how to drive a Stratos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXYFpraIhIY

ChrisJ.

547 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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geeeman said:
but is it so easy to lose the rear , and hard to recover?
If you do eventually break traction at the rear mid corner, it is very had to hold that power slide. It's much more of a 'knife edge' thing than say a Mk2 Escort.

geeeman

1,258 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd May 2014
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ChrisJ. said:
geeeman said:
but is it so easy to lose the rear , and hard to recover?
If you do eventually break traction at the rear mid corner, it is very had to hold that power slide. It's much more of a 'knife edge' thing than say a Mk2 Escort.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbfZayu6SQ8

these guys seem to be able to hold the slide midcorner pretty well! skill level is pretty high though.
ofcourse FR layout is easier for drifting, but the way the stratos chages direction is impressive

ChrisJ.

547 posts

220 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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At 0:59 on that video, there's a white car that comes steaming into the corner with lock on, and nothing happening.
That's what I mean about the front washing out. You need to be ready for that, and the snap oversteer. The best drivers get the best out of them. I know that applies to everything, but more so with a Stratos. You can go very quickly without getting anywhere near these levels though.

geeeman

1,258 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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some more great period footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQgBUTq82o

Swamprat33

4 posts

139 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Hi all, I have finally decided to ACTUALLY try and sell my CAE Corse Lancia Stratos Replica now.
It is finished in a dark metalic red which looks pretty close to the Lancia Winner red as used on the Integrale and S4/
It has a modified 12v Alfa 3.0 V6 running an Emerald K6 ecu with no cat.

I have been trying to talk myself out of selling it for the last 2 years, but have now decided that she must go to a new home.

I will be at the Castle Coombe Rally day this Saturday Sept 20th if anyone wants to see it in the flesh.

I will be listing it shortly on Piston Heads, the Stratos Enthusiasts site (SEC)but not ebay.
This is a high spec car correctly registered, on an age related 'G' plate. It is taxed and has a valid MOT until June 2015.

I have owned the car for the last 10 years and have had some great times and it has been very reliable and a lot of fun.
This is a well known car within the SEC and has attended many events and shows over the years as well as several magazine articles.

Please contact me if interested or come and see the car at Castle Coombe.
Formal advert should get place in the next couple of days.

Cheers

Tim

Blib

39,696 posts

177 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Tim! You're alive!

wavey

Sorry to hear that you're selling your car. Mine went in June 2013. I'm trying still to come to terms with that. hehe

Swamprat33

4 posts

139 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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Hi Blib, in that case you could buy mine!

Cheers

Tim

Blib

39,696 posts

177 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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Nah, Ive scratched that itch for now. I replaced it with a 964 C4 targa. The Porsche is nowhere near as quick. Not even in the same league. hehe