Seeking Quality Wheel Nuts

Seeking Quality Wheel Nuts

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ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Can someone point me to a set of new wheel nuts, I'm looking for top quality.

I'd prefer stainless but would consider chrome/zinc plated if they're heat treated carbon steel with proper cut threads, I need a set of 16 deep closed end M12 x 1.5 with a 60 degree tapered seat like these I've found.



I appreciate wheel nuts are a small detail and with Imolas you only see their ends, but wheel nuts are also a safety item and with so much rubbish out there I'm suspicious these may be disappointing quality?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-x-Alloy-Wheel-Nuts-M...

So I'd appreciate if someone can indicate a supplier of known good quality wheel nuts.

Belle427

8,947 posts

233 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I bought a set, not from that seller but a similar listing.
The part about will not rust is bs in my opinion as mine are showing signs of surface rust already and I don't use it much in the rain.
I couldn't locate a set of stainless ones, I think Racetech used to stock them but they were £100 a set.


ChimpOnGas

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179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Belle427 said:
I bought a set, not from that seller but a similar listing.
The part about will not rust is bs in my opinion as mine are showing signs of surface rust already and I don't use it much in the rain.
I couldn't locate a set of stainless ones, I think Racetech used to stock them but they were £100 a set.
Your comments are pretty much exactly why I created this post, surely there are better quality wheel nuts out there than the ones on Fleabay?

They're only Sierra/Escort after all, so what are the RS boys using when they want something decent?

The hunt continues scratchchin

Barreti

6,680 posts

237 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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The wheel nut in the picture is for a steel wheel isn’t it.
I was under the impression a quality alloy wheel nut will have a floating tapered section so it doesn’t grind off the finish where it touches the wheel
I replaced mine when I got .gotti alloys instead of the Estorils where the nuts are under a cover so it doesn’t matter what they or the wheel nut area looks like.
I think mine are now Jaguar wheel nuts, I’ll see if I can check this though.

Belle427

8,947 posts

233 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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rigga

8,729 posts

201 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Got these from eBay, black so they don't rust, seem very good quality, actually purchased two sets, as I have a stud conversion on my mini that uses the same thread.


£22 delivered.

Barreti

6,680 posts

237 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I found the thread where I asked about wheel nuts and you are looking for Ford Sierra M12x1.5
And I was right about the floating bit.

I’ve checked on eBay to see if the guy I got mine from has any one sale and unfortunately he doesn’t but you could message him to see if he can lay his hands on some

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

One other thing. The nuts I got have a stainless cover which is part of the nut and bonded on somehow. I was sceptical this would survive being crushed by the socket but they are fine. And god knows I’ve had my wheels off enough :-)
If you look for these they will be secondhand so you need to be sure there is no rust bubbling under the stainless cover because they can suffer from this.

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I wonder if these would work scratchchin



They're listed as Ford Ghia stepped taper sleeve nuts with washer, the thread is 12x1.5 which I believe is correct, the seat type is described as Sleeve with 60 degree taper washer.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Ghia-wheel-Sleeve-...

They look half decent and £23.00 a set seems fair, but will this stepped type taper sleeve nut fit the Chimaera Imola wheel?

I can't see why not scratchchin


phillpot

17,115 posts

183 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Genuine Ford, steel with a bonded on stainless cover, but might not be deep enough for your application?

clicky for example

TwinKam

2,975 posts

95 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Barreti said:
......One other thing. The nuts I got have a stainless cover which is part of the nut and bonded on somehow. I was sceptical this would survive being crushed by the socket but they are fine. And god knows I’ve had my wheels off enough :-)
If you look for these they will be secondhand so you need to be sure there is no rust bubbling under the stainless cover because they can suffer from this.
Indeed they do, and then the stainless (crimped, not bonded) cover comes off, stuck inside your wrench/socket, that's if you even managed to get it onto the swollen nut in the first place!
So don't even consider s/h ones, as they all go this way in time.
Else, carry a hammer & a drift to remove the covers from your socket, and an 18mm socket to then remove the skinnier wheel nuts...

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Thanks, but I'm favoring these at the moment as they seem deeper, when I fitted my Brembo brake conversion it demanded wheel spacers on the front which in turn dictated longer wheel studs. I tried to match the extra stud length to the spacer thickness so their exposed threads would be the same as standard but they ended up a couple of threads longer, we're only talking one or two millimeters but a deeper nut will definitely suit me better yes



If the above photo is anything to go by the nut end face which is the only part of the nut you actually see, does appear reasonably well finished too. These nuts also look like they will locate and pull in well with the depth I need, finally at £23.00 for a set of 16 they seem reasonably priced.

Spot On Nuts and Bolts are based in Maidstone Kent, all they do is wheel nuts and wheel bolts so you'd hope the guy knows a thing or two about how to select quality parts?

Here's their website...

https://www.alloywheelnutsandbolts.co.uk/

And some more about them here...

http://www.findglocal.com/GB/Maidstone/98635084810...

Anyway I'm feeling reckless this morning so I'm going to risk the £23.00 hehe

Buying online is always a risk as you never can really tell what you're going to get in the way of quality until the items turn up, however what I always try to do for the TVR community is give honest reviews so keep an eye on this post as I'll be back to let you know how these nuts worked out.

Thanks for your help chaps, especially Barreti (Ian) who highlighted the need for the rotating collar, I actually think this has been my problem all along, if I'm honest my fixed taper solid body wheel nuts have never felt like they pull my wheels as nicely as I'd like.

I'll end by saying....

"Who would have thought I'd have spent Monday morning mostly talking about my nuts?"rofl



kevd

177 posts

161 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/by-model/griffith?...
TVR car parts do these stainless nuts, available in qty 12 or 16. I bought some last year and they look pretty decent to me.
Just a little word or warning, when they sent them to me initially they sent me the slightly larger Cerbera/ T car fitment nuts which I think are 1/2" UNF, they feel like they nearly fit but check first before putting a wheel nut gun on them. They did swap them over easily though once notified.
I do have a set of the the larger 1/2 UNF nuts if they are of any use to anyone. let me know.
Kev

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Jeeze!!!!

They are £95.94 inc. VAT plus delivery for a a set of 16!

Even with the TVR Club discount that's a bit strong for a set of wheel nuts!

I think £23.00 is more my budget, so I've just pulled the trigger and will let everyone know if they're any good.

Dave.


magpies

5,129 posts

182 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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I recently purchased these from Burton Power. they make sure that they will not bottom out.
https://www.burtonpower.com/open-wheel-nut-m12x1-5...
https://www.burtonpower.com/media/catalog/product/...

ChimpOnGas

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9,637 posts

179 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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magpies said:
I recently purchased these from Burton Power. they make sure that they will not bottom out.
https://www.burtonpower.com/open-wheel-nut-m12x1-5...
https://www.burtonpower.com/media/catalog/product/...
True, but I'd rather go with the closed type, I don't want to see the ugly stud or a hole.

Saying that you can always cap them with 19mm wheel nut covers/caps scratchchin

Riff Raff

5,117 posts

195 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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magpies said:
I recently purchased these from Burton Power. they make sure that they will not bottom out.
https://www.burtonpower.com/open-wheel-nut-m12x1-5...
https://www.burtonpower.com/media/catalog/product/...
ChimpOnGas said:
True, but I'd rather go with the closed type, I don't want to see the ugly stud or a hole.

Saying that you can always cap them with 19mm wheel nut covers/caps scratchchin
I just bought a set of extremely expensive split rims from Image. The nuts they supplied were the open type. I don't really care about the ugly studs showing as they are hidden by the cover plate.

SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Do you mean stainless ones like these ?

I will look through my invoices .

Loads of people have ask me where I got them from .

ChimpOnGas

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179 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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SILICONEKID 357HP said:
Do you mean stainless ones like these ?

I will look through my invoices .

Loads of people have ask me where I got them from .
How much did you pay for your lovely nuts Daz?

They look expensive mate.

My budget is not as big as yours, I'm not a plumber you know laugh

ChimpOnGas

Original Poster:

9,637 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Hi Guys,

I've been speaking with the guy from Alloy Wheel Nuts & Bolts....

https://www.alloywheelnutsandbolts.co.uk/

He's been very responsive and happy to answer my questions, he does also seem to know his subject too, he's been specialising in wheel nuts/bolts for some 10 years.

Apparently most of his stock is sourced from Italy, so hopefully a lot better quality than the wheel nuts I've suffered in the past?


SILICONEKID 357HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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ChimpOnGas said:
How much did you pay for your lovely nuts Daz?

They look expensive mate.

My budget is not as big as yours, I'm not a plumber you know laugh
They were 40 quid for a set .
I'm only a poor plumber .