Formula E 2018/19

Formula E 2018/19

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cuprabob

7,720 posts

158 months

Wednesday 1st May
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I think running the current FE cars on what you would call "proper tracks" would show up the relative lack of speed. As a spectacular you would would twiddling your thumbs for a good couple of minutes waiting for the cars to re-appear. I think the city centre streets is the ideal location until the cars have been developed further and are faster.

37chevy

2,755 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st May
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cuprabob said:
I think running the current FE cars on what you would call "proper tracks" would show up the relative lack of speed. As a spectacular you would would twiddling your thumbs for a good couple of minutes waiting for the cars to re-appear. I think the city centre streets is the ideal location until the cars have been developed further and are faster.
Agreed. Let’s be frank, they’re not fast, but not are FE bothered about that, they have their USP and are doing well with it, just like Indycar aren’t fast compared to F1 but are doing quite nicely for themselves

Gary C

5,129 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st May
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37chevy said:
Gary C said:
Fan boost frown

That to me says everything about FE

and not in a good way.

Get rid of gimmicks and have a few races on proper tracks.
Think you’re right about fan boost, it’s not needed. But hey it’s only a few seconds of the race and never affects it.

In terms of proper tracks, define proper tracks? I sorta get what you mean, but at least the tracks they are on provide action and good racing, something which can be lost on ‘proper’ tracks
cuprabob said:
I think running the current FE cars on what you would call "proper tracks" would show up the relative lack of speed. As a spectacular you would would twiddling your thumbs for a good couple of minutes waiting for the cars to re-appear. I think the city centre streets is the ideal location until the cars have been developed further and are faster.
I find the city tracks too confined and too many straight into 90 into straight into kink. Never seems to flow in the way a more traditional circuit does.

Would prefer Oulton or Brands to a city street circuit.

Are they doing Monaco full GP circuit this year ?

AlexRS2782

5,507 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Gary C said:
Are they doing Monaco full GP circuit this year ?
I believe Agag pushed hard to use the full F1 circuit for this year, what with the introduction of the Gen2 cars, but apparently the FIA vetoed the idea as they were concerned about the effects of running FE cars on an active F1 circuit where people may attempt to draw comparisons / measure both events against each other.

A couple of drivers had evidently expressed an interest in doing the full circuit, but when the teams themselves were approached by Agag over their thoughts on using the F1 circuit, they all said they much preferred the existing short ciruit (hard right at Sainte Devote and rejoin at the chicane / F1 run-off road at the bottom of the hill after the tunnel) as it kept everything more compact for viewing, rather than spreading it out over the full F1 circuit, and they were also concerned about the extra costs that would be involved in having to fund additional track modifications to use the full F1 circuit.


37chevy

2,755 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st May
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AlexRS2782 said:
FIA vetoed the idea as they were concerned about the effects of running FE cars on an active F1 circuit where people may attempt to draw comparisons / measure both events against each other.
And there lies the problem. I doubt an FE car would match a formula 4 or formula 3 car. To give a direct comparison this early in the series development would be very detrimental to its image.

I agree though that the GEN2 cars are outgrowing some of the circuit layouts...Paris was a prime example of that

Fundoreen

836 posts

27 months

Thursday 2nd May
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They just seem to confuse and contradict.
If you were trying to grow a sport you would think running it in a familiar setting would capture people's imagination.
But no ,it gets billed as the monaco race then runs up some backstreets to break the spell as you wonder where they are going every lap.
They have tied themselves in knots with this 45 minutes thing so I guess running up the hill would severely screw that up and they would maybe get 30 mins. Whats wrong with that. The whole thing is mind numbingly boring after 5 minutes anyway and reliant on commentary trying to shout it interesting.

Kraken

1,073 posts

144 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Boring after 5 minutes? Every race this year has been a race long battle.

9.3

1,014 posts

136 months

Sunday 5th May
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Interesting reading here on it’s financial state:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/05/f...


JimSuperSix

2,953 posts

187 months

Monday 6th May
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Kraken said:
Boring after 5 minutes? Every race this year has been a race long battle.
Same here, recently started watching them and compared to F1 they are much more exciting, more "proper" overtaking rather than just cruising past using DRS, as its slower they don't seem to mind hitting each other a bit, and on street circuits theres a lot more scope for overtaking into heavy braking zones, people getting it wrong and taking a wheel off etc...

As a TV spectator sport it's far better than the current F1. Almost every F1 race of the past few years has had a good first lap, then a huge period of boredom with the occasional good last couple of laps when they can actually cane the cars and attack without being hampered by the silly tyres.

Gary C

5,129 posts

123 months

Monday 6th May
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JimSuperSix said:
Kraken said:
Boring after 5 minutes? Every race this year has been a race long battle.
Same here, recently started watching them and compared to F1 they are much more exciting, more "proper" overtaking rather than just cruising past using DRS, as its slower they don't seem to mind hitting each other a bit, and on street circuits theres a lot more scope for overtaking into heavy braking zones, people getting it wrong and taking a wheel off etc...

As a TV spectator sport it's far better than the current F1. Almost every F1 race of the past few years has had a good first lap, then a huge period of boredom with the occasional good last couple of laps when they can actually cane the cars and attack without being hampered by the silly tyres.
Odd, isnt it. How people perceive things.

I find the overtakes in FE a bit naff, and have loved the last few seasons of F1

I think the sound is a bit of a problem. Needs some whine from those electric motors to add some drama ! I do wonder if they could engineer a loud cooling fan smile

EDLT

15,183 posts

150 months

Monday 6th May
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9.3 said:
Interesting reading here on it’s financial state:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/05/f...
Doesn't surprise me, they're still trying to grow and are eventually going to increase entry fees, ticket prices and move to a subscription service instead of free-to-air tv and youtube.

paulwoof

1,097 posts

99 months

Saturday 11th May
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they need to get rid of that american commentator, outside of fan boost, attack mode which I can just abide by. That cringy voice with less technical input that even crofty is just ear stabbingly bad.

FourWheelDrift

77,554 posts

228 months

Saturday 11th May
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paulwoof said:
they need to get rid of that american commentator, outside of fan boost, attack mode which I can just abide by. That cringy voice with less technical input that even crofty is just ear stabbingly bad.
I thought he was in a different place since the other two chat away most of the time and he chimes in occasioanlly, but he sits in between them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRT-tR9zY_4

Kraken

1,073 posts

144 months

Saturday 11th May
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If you watch the whole day with the build up to each session etc he does all the talking at that stage. For the actual race he keeps out of it mainly but keeps an eye on what is happening to let the other two know things they might have missed.

JonChalk

2,017 posts

54 months

Saturday 11th May
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Sam Bird overtaking at Monaco - up 7 (?) places so far!

JonChalk

2,017 posts

54 months

Saturday 11th May
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JonChalk said:
Sam Bird overtaking at Monaco - up 7 (?) places so far!
Up to 6th now!!

JonChalk

2,017 posts

54 months

Saturday 11th May
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JonChalk said:
Up to 6th now!!
Then screws it up two corners from home :-( - maybe not his fault?

EDLT

15,183 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th May
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What happened to Bird at the end, a crash or a puncture after running over some stray carbon fibre?

JonChalk

2,017 posts

54 months

Saturday 11th May
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EDLT said:
What happened to Bird at the end, a crash or a puncture after running over some stray carbon fibre?
Quoted as saying on the radio that someone ran into the back of him causing instant flat tyre and spearing him into wall.

williamp

16,533 posts

217 months

Saturday 11th May
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Anyone get the name of that app they mentionned which you can race in real time?

I cant find it on the google play.