2019 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and all other)!

[mfmman]

I did raise a concern about the date clash on another forum when they were launched, especially as the Woodpecker rally (big forest event about 40 miles up the road from the Three Shires) was the weekend before. More worried about marshals and rescue crews than competitors really

Three Shires wasn't quite full, I think they ran with about 107 from 120 possible entries. I guess the allure of the classic road rally routes was a big draw for the welsh event. I'm sure quite few crews would have done both given the chance (don't know if any one did?) which would be an even better situation for the organisers if the clash can be avoided

Dates must be hard work, there may have been the factor of the event base and accomodation offer at the Aberystwyth Uni campus where only very specific dates may have been on offer.

The best thing for me is the huge numbers of posts on Social Media (most notable for the Clacton event) from people who knew nothing of rallying before it went through their locale but has a really good time and can't wait for it to happen again

[ceesvdelst]

From what I saw, the fan zones were really good, fairly close, good action areas, looked a great event, hope it keeps going.

[thepawbroon]

I attended both the closed road rallies at the weekend, Three Shires on Saturday and Rali Bae Ceredigion on Sunday. Spectating / Servicing and talking to as many people as I could.

Both were excellent - the Three Shires was more of a clubmans event and had a nice relaxed atmosphere. The Rali Bae was pretty much an international-level event in all but name, with high levels of professionalism all round.

I’m glad that there is room for both, especially the 3 Shires, as the existing clubman-level tarmac rallies become harder and harder to find venues for.

On the way home I took a drive over Nant Y Moch stage - that is a world-class stage, at least as good as Abbey St Bathens (my favourite stage outside of Mull) and they had world-class corporate hospitality up there.

I must say I’m a little surprised that there aren’t more non-rally closed road events, from memory there is Watergate Bay hillclimb and Coventry MoFest. Any others? And I don’t think anyone has launched a closed/road motorbike event yet have they?

Mull in 5 weeks! The granddaddy of closed road rallies.

[DelicaL400]

thepawbroon said:

And I don’t think anyone has launched a closed/road motorbike event yet have they?

There was one launched that was supposed to use the Epynt roads although I'm not sure why that fell under the new legislation, the roads appeared to be the same as those used for rallying for years. Anyway, it was canned and I'm not aware of any others.

[velocemitch]

The event in Saltburn had motor cycles. Though being untimed it probably didn’t need to use the new act.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

velocemitch said:

The event in Saltburn had motor cycles. Though being untimed it probably didn’t need to use the new act.

it would of done if they were going faster than the speed limits.

I too would like to see some other events on the roads, not just rallies. Long circuit hill climbs would be good, or time trials ( but these are limited to 10 miles in MUK regs). I very much like the idea of a 20 mile time trial where you could use any car from single seater to rally car, with classes for each. My current dream venue would be the road from Kilmahog back round to Callander, followed by the road from Beckwithshaw, to Leathley , Farnley, then ending up in Fewston. Finally a hillclimb near the White horse at Uffington along the b4507

I'll let you find them on the map.

Any one got any other good time trial roads?

[df76]

thepawbroon said:

I must say I’m a little surprised that there aren’t more non-rally closed road events, from memory there is Watergate Bay hillclimb and Coventry MoFest. Any others? And I don’t think anyone has launched a closed/road motorbike event yet have they?

There's a (car) speed event planned for the Isle of Wight early next season, and it'll be closed road.

[velocemitch]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

velocemitch said:

The event in Saltburn had motor cycles. Though being untimed it probably didn’t need to use the new act.

it would of done if they were going faster than the speed limits.

I too would like to see some other events on the roads, not just rallies. Long circuit hill climbs would be good, or time trials ( but these are limited to 10 miles in MUK regs). I very much like the idea of a 20 mile time trial where you could use any car from single seater to rally car, with classes for each. My current dream venue would be the road from Kilmahog back round to Callander, followed by the road from Beckwithshaw, to Leathley , Farnley, then ending up in Fewston. Finally a hillclimb near the White horse at Uffington along the b4507

I'll let you find them on the map.

Any one got any other good time trial roads?

I know the road from Beckwithshaw well enough, we use all those roads in the Washburn Valley for scatters and 12 Cars, and a fair number of them on the Colman Tyres Rally.
I think the tome trial concept is quite good, endless roads that could be used.
There is a Hillclimb organised for Holmfirth next spring, they were trying to get Holme Moss, but are having to settle for one of the climbs out of Upperthong instead. Limited to Classics and Vintage though.

[thepawbroon]

I did a little research and gathered up all the threads:

Rallying:

Legend Fires North West Stages
Corbeau Seats Rally
Three Shires Stages
Rali Bae Ceredigion
Beatson's Mull Rally
Jim Clark Rally
A bit of the Riponian
A bit of the WRGB

Speed:

Coventry MotoFest
Watergate Bay
Sandown Speed Trials
Wolfstones Hillclimb
Holme Moss Hillclimb

Race:

Hull City Greenpower

[Allyc85]

Oh dear, Tanak let down by his car again!!

[E34-3.2]

Looks like Neuville can't handle the pressure. Tanak is unfortunate but still has a good cushion in the championship. Those 2 are lucky that the Citroen is a dog as otherwise the championship trophy would already be in Ogier's trophy room.

[Allyc85]

I thought Neuville was unlucky, being caught out by the dust. Really don't know why the organisers changed it from 4 down to 3 minute gaps.

That Citroen is a fickle car. A complete dog in Germany, but going well here. It seems to have the smallest of sweet spots where it works.

[ArnageWRC]

Allyc85 said:

I thought Neuville was unlucky, being caught out by the dust. Really don't know why the organisers changed it from 4 down to 3 minute gaps.

That Citroen is a fickle car. A complete dog in Germany, but going well here. It seems to have the smallest of sweet spots where it works.

Everybody constantly quotes 'safety is a must, not a choice', then for some reason they cut the running order gaps; Neuville came around a corner into a fog of dust.....What can you do?

Ogier started needing a bit of luck, a voila - Tanak's car let him down (again!!) and Neuville had his unfortunate time consuming off. It's still seems a long shot, but Toyota can't really afford another car issue for Tanak.

[GravelBen]

ArnageWRC said:

Neuville came around a corner into a fog of dust.....What can you do?

Pay more attention to the pace notes?

Visibility did look particularly terrible on that corner though.

Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th September 23:45

[Big Robbo]

GravelBen said:

ArnageWRC said:

Neuville came around a corner into a fog of dust.....What can you do?

Pay more attention to the pace notes?

Visibility did look particularly terrible on that corner though.

Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 15th September 23:45

Rallies don't run in fog then? Neuville should have had a bit more faith in his pacenotes

[thepawbroon]

Only 18 days until "The Best Rally in the World" - as titled by Ian Grindrod.

The Beatson's Building Supplies Mull Rally - back after a 2 year enforced absence.

Route is here:
https://mullrally.org/route/

Seeded Entry list is here:
https://rallies.info/webentry/2019/mull/entries.ph...


I'm one of the Deputy Clerks of the Course, after many months of slogging over paperwork I'm looking forward to being out "in the field".

cheers, Duncan

[avenger286]

thepawbroon said:

Only 18 days until "The Best Rally in the World" - as titled by Ian Grindrod.

The Beatson's Building Supplies Mull Rally - back after a 2 year enforced absence.

Route is here:
https://mullrally.org/route/

Seeded Entry list is here:
https://rallies.info/webentry/2019/mull/entries.ph...


I'm one of the Deputy Clerks of the Course, after many months of slogging over paperwork I'm looking forward to being out "in the field".

cheers, Duncan

Good luck Duncan hope all goes well on the island after a 2 year absence.
Gutted not to be coming up as usual and starting over the lochs on Friday night it's a cracking route and entry as usual.
Might even have a car built for next year!

[Ranger 6]

I’ll see you there Duncan, in the meantime is anyone out on the Trackrod this weekend?

We could always do with more marshals

[GravelBen]

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/september-2019/201...

NZ is back baby!

Might be a road trip to the other end of the country for me.

[velocemitch]

Rumour has it the GB round will be staying in Wales for 2020, not Ulster which was widely touted.