BTCC 2020 Rumour Mill

BTCC 2020 Rumour Mill

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MG CHRIS

7,024 posts

122 months

Sunday 28th June
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DanielSan said:
Big question for the eventual start of the season, how many drivers can we expect not to be racing due to sponsors pulling out?
Have seen a comment saying team hard wont have the same line up but there no real surprise in that. I think the grid will still be the same this year however the support races could well be hit maybe 15-20% down between the series.
Next year could be the real challenge for budgets as the real effects of the lockdown will be in full flow by then.

BMR

815 posts

133 months

Sunday 28th June
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Plato done a recent FB live with Mike Brewer on his Wheeler Dealer channel. He did raise the thought that this year would have been better knocked on the head and stated he did believe some sponsor deals were going bang as we speak.

I think that’s how he stated all contracts should just have been rolled over into 2021

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Sunday 28th June
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There's potential for a good few cars to either be missing from the touring car grid completely or certainly having different drivers in. I've heard of one driver whose not doing this year now due to the sponsor cash drying up but don't think it's been officially announced yet?

Rob197

750 posts

101 months

Tuesday
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Jordan out! Wonder whats happened there

The Wookie

12,024 posts

183 months

Tuesday
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WTF, id heard some rumours about other drivers but that ones completely out of the blue to me

BMR

815 posts

133 months

Tuesday
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That’s a big surprise. I would have thought many drivers would have been at risk in some of the smaller teams before Jordan etc

You can only speculate how Jordan was funding this Year. A lot was made of losing Pirtek but then it was made out BMW had raised their commitment. Perhaps the shortfall came from the Jordan family and now that isn’t possible.

BMR

815 posts

133 months

Tuesday
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The other thing to speculate around is how will this effect teams licences if they can’t replace the drivers.

PartsMonkey

146 posts

92 months

Tuesday
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BMR said:
That’s a big surprise. I would have thought many drivers would have been at risk in some of the smaller teams before Jordan etc

You can only speculate how Jordan was funding this Year. A lot was made of losing Pirtek but then it was made out BMW had raised their commitment. Perhaps the shortfall came from the Jordan family and now that isn’t possible.
I wonder if perhaps BMW were funding Jordan and have decided to now fund only one driver (Based on the assumption that Oliphant pays for his seat).

Having said that, Jordan is a Red Bull athlete. I'm amazed they haven't stepped in to fund him and cover his car in Red Bull logos.

greeny12

207 posts

174 months

Tuesday
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I suspect this mini Golden Age for BTCC is done now. Big shame; it's been fun to watch these last few years.

Kraken

1,418 posts

155 months

Tuesday
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PartsMonkey said:
I wonder if perhaps BMW were funding Jordan and have decided to now fund only one driver (Based on the assumption that Oliphant pays for his seat).

Having said that, Jordan is a Red Bull athlete. I'm amazed they haven't stepped in to fund him and cover his car in Red Bull logos.
The wording in the press seems to imply that it was totally Jordans decision and not something that BMW / WSR forced on him.

I doubt BTCC fits Red Bulls marketing aims for spending a lot of money especially when there's no chance of corporate entertainment at the meetings for the foreseeable future.

Reading between the lines I expect that has hit Jordans personal sponsors hard as well. The choosing between head and heart message probably means that the only way he could carry on would be to spend his own money which can be an expensive rabbit hole at that level especially in a volatile business environment. I can't imagine many people will be booking up to spend tens of thousands having historic race cars built/refurbished at the moment.

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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Kraken said:
The wording in the press seems to imply that it was totally Jordans decision and not something that BMW / WSR forced on him.

I doubt BTCC fits Red Bulls marketing aims for spending a lot of money especially when there's no chance of corporate entertainment at the meetings for the foreseeable future.

Reading between the lines I expect that has hit Jordans personal sponsors hard as well. The choosing between head and heart message probably means that the only way he could carry on would be to spend his own money which can be an expensive rabbit hole at that level especially in a volatile business environment. I can't imagine many people will be booking up to spend tens of thousands having historic race cars built/refurbished at the moment.
I've got a mate who works for them at JRT and they're completely rammed with work at the moment, most of it being new cars to build! And the season is about to kick off again with pretty much the same number of races compressed into half the year. Anyone doing historics is the same at the moment.

Not a clue why he's pulled out, only driver is heard a rumour about wasn't even close to being Jordan. It's going to be a weird looking grid this year if this announcement is just the start of it


Edited by DanielSan on Tuesday 30th June 12:12

BMR

815 posts

133 months

Tuesday
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Maybe the workload he has with JRT has made his head instead of heart decision.

If he has a lot of Paying customers Then it would make sense to make hay while the sun shines.

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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It wouldn't be a surprise if that's behind the decision, it would certainly make sense.

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/modern/2020/6/an...

Change in his deal seems to be the reason. Can imagine the damage gets pretty costly if the deal wouldn't cover it all.

StoatInACoat

1,264 posts

140 months

Tuesday
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On a happier note, MSV reopening to muggles from the 11th of July.

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Tuesday
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StoatInACoat said:
On a happier note, MSV reopening to muggles from the 11th of July.
But only limited numbers. Wonder how that will work out?

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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Drumroll said:
StoatInACoat said:
On a happier note, MSV reopening to muggles from the 11th of July.
But only limited numbers. Wonder how that will work out?
For anything other than BTCC/BSB I can't see it being much different. Club meetings never attract big crowds. The Gold Cup at Oulton on the last August weekend will be busy but that's hit and miss when I've been to it whether it's packed out or half empty.

Kraken

1,418 posts

155 months

Tuesday
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DanielSan said:
I've got a mate who works for them at JRT and they're completely rammed with work at the moment, most of it being new cars to build! And the season is about to kick off again with pretty much the same number of races compressed into half the year. Anyone doing historics is the same at the moment.

Not a clue why he's pulled out, only driver is heard a rumour about wasn't even close to being Jordan. It's going to be a weird looking grid this year if this announcement is just the start of it


Edited by DanielSan on Tuesday 30th June 12:12
Good news for the staff at JRT but I am surprised. Guess there are enough people around with enough money stashed away that a likely massive recession doesn't concern them.

acer12

771 posts

129 months

Tuesday
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DanielSan said:
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/modern/2020/6/an...

Change in his deal seems to be the reason. Can imagine the damage gets pretty costly if the deal wouldn't cover it all.
Wouldn't surprise me if Turks had the same contract change, except Turks knows that he can race clean (with little or no damage) and win whereas this is not always the case for Jordan so its a bigger financial risk for Jordan.

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Tuesday
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DanielSan said:
Drumroll said:
StoatInACoat said:
On a happier note, MSV reopening to muggles from the 11th of July.
But only limited numbers. Wonder how that will work out?
For anything other than BTCC/BSB I can't see it being much different. Club meetings never attract big crowds. The Gold Cup at Oulton on the last August weekend will be busy but that's hit and miss when I've been to it whether it's packed out or half empty.
As far as I can see there are two issues. Firstly how many will they allow? Oulton Park have already said season ticket holders will just be admitted as normal, so they won't know numbers. Secondly I wonder what will happen about all the "sponsors" tickets.

Agree fo a lot of club meetings numbers won't be a real issue. But for the bigger meetings, I am not so sure.