BTCC 2020 Rumour Mill

BTCC 2020 Rumour Mill

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Kraken

1,418 posts

155 months

Tuesday
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acer12 said:
Wouldn't surprise me if Turks had the same contract change, except Turks knows that he can race clean (with little or no damage) and win whereas this is not always the case for Jordan so its a bigger financial risk for Jordan.
It's totally out of the drivers hands most of the time though. Look at the incident last season at Donington which you could argue cost Jordan the championship. As soon as you have other drivers around you you're relying on them totally to not lose control or have a mechanical failure etc.

agent006

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11,620 posts

219 months

Tuesday
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It's a shame but not entirely surprising that he's been the first casulaty. Big doubts over him even being in 2020 at all from last season, so you have to assume that the maths were pretty tight regardless, and in what must be one of the most expensive seats in the championship. All it takes is for the situation to move in on you from both sides, the deal with the team, and then sponsors getting cold feet. You could deal with one, but not both.

Speed Badger

1,173 posts

72 months

Tuesday
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Being in the BTCC is kind of a hiding to nothing really. Even if you win the championship that doesn't mean you win riches beyond compare. There must be only a handful of drivers actually getting paid, most are probably funded mostly by sponsors / team subsidies (can anyone confirm - Wookie?) or by a mixture of the above with additional family or personal funding. Do drivers even get win bonuses any more?

DanielSan

14,884 posts

122 months

Tuesday
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Speed Badger said:
Being in the BTCC is kind of a hiding to nothing really. Even if you win the championship that doesn't mean you win riches beyond compare. There must be only a handful of drivers actually getting paid, most are probably funded mostly by sponsors / team subsidies (can anyone confirm - Wookie?) or by a mixture of the above with additional family or personal funding. Do drivers even get win bonuses any more?
No prize other than a trophy for teams or drivers. It's a brilliant business model for TOCA, terrible for everyone else.

The Wookie

12,024 posts

183 months

Tuesday
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Speed Badger said:
Being in the BTCC is kind of a hiding to nothing really. Even if you win the championship that doesn't mean you win riches beyond compare. There must be only a handful of drivers actually getting paid, most are probably funded mostly by sponsors / team subsidies (can anyone confirm - Wookie?) or by a mixture of the above with additional family or personal funding. Do drivers even get win bonuses any more?
Yeah it’s basically a sliding scale of the above with the top few being able to earn a salary out of their sponsorship after the budget and the other end being 100% personal sponsor and family funded.

Most are in the middle where the team sponsors fill some and they have to bring the balance

There is an independent teams championship prize fund, both cash and tyres, but it’s fairly modest and usually goes to the teams, although I’ve had a deal before where I took the prize money home... as long as I was under the driver weight target set by the team at the start of every weekend rofl

These days the winnings are more likely to have the queens head rather than Dunlop Goodyear written on them so it’s more of a get nagged or shouted at if I’m a bit fat and get the boot at the end of the year if I start looking like I did pre 2015 hehe

The normal expectation is that any winnings get spent on extra tyres for testing etc

Just to add I think AJ is a real loss to the series. Good bloke and a top driver, he deserves to be there.

Speed Badger

1,173 posts

72 months

Tuesday
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Yeah that sucks, can't believe you don't even get a couple of quid for a win. Should try like mad from an early age to get over to the States and get into Indycars - get in the 500 and even if you finish last you get around $200,000! Depending on the pot, around $2.5million for winning.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

2,499 posts

178 months

Tuesday
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I think the btcc needs a budget cap. IIRC it costs around £110k to do Clios with a front running team but you could do it yourself with a couple of mates for £30k , after you’ve sold the car at the end of the year.

So if you stripped BTCC back to the absolute minimum, limited tyres, engines, mechanics etc I wonder how cheap you could do it? <100k?. Basically set it up like posh club racing and maybe it would be a goer. The tele fans don’t care what goes on in the garage!

The Wookie

12,024 posts

183 months

Tuesday
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I think the btcc needs a budget cap. IIRC it costs around £110k to do Clios with a front running team but you could do it yourself with a couple of mates for £30k , after you’ve sold the car at the end of the year.

So if you stripped BTCC back to the absolute minimum, limited tyres, engines, mechanics etc I wonder how cheap you could do it? <100k?. Basically set it up like posh club racing and maybe it would be a goer. The tele fans don’t care what goes on in the garage!
Funny enough when I first started doing it there were plenty on here moaning about it being posh club racing

I’d say it’s about right, it’s supposed to be the top level of U.K. motorsport and it’s not orders of magnitude above even Clio’s or Ginettas

Munter

29,737 posts

196 months

Tuesday
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The last few years the grids have been full. If people didn't think it was worth it we wouldn't see that.

This year will be a test, and things might change, but up to now TOCA have been selling a product enough people wanted to buy the lot.