2020 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)
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Rallye Legend this weekend.
The Italians leading the way as usual in a proper rally show that appeals to fans. Not much social distancing going on though, you get the feeling they dont give a damn!
Makes a bit of a mockery of our rather stale efforts, but then they approach the whole thing as a show rather than an event. But I do think there is scope in this country for a proper show like this now and then, rather than a basic long historic event.
The Italians leading the way as usual in a proper rally show that appeals to fans. Not much social distancing going on though, you get the feeling they dont give a damn!
Makes a bit of a mockery of our rather stale efforts, but then they approach the whole thing as a show rather than an event. But I do think there is scope in this country for a proper show like this now and then, rather than a basic long historic event.
This is what the Mintex and Lombard recreations are supposed to be about. But I’m not convinced they work that well.
Seem a little bit like an old boys outing with a drive around a few venues thrown in.
Part of the problem is they don’t fit in to any of the MSUK permits and have to be organised as a non competitive tour.
I understand the one the later this month is still running, but with COVID restrictions it will be even more emasculated. My driver for rally of the tests is running is Healey in it.
Seem a little bit like an old boys outing with a drive around a few venues thrown in.
Part of the problem is they don’t fit in to any of the MSUK permits and have to be organised as a non competitive tour.
I understand the one the later this month is still running, but with COVID restrictions it will be even more emasculated. My driver for rally of the tests is running is Healey in it.
LukeBrown66 said:
Rallye Legend this weekend.
The Italians leading the way as usual in a proper rally show that appeals to fans. Not much social distancing going on though, you get the feeling they dont give a damn!
Makes a bit of a mockery of our rather stale efforts, but then they approach the whole thing as a show rather than an event. But I do think there is scope in this country for a proper show like this now and then, rather than a basic long historic event.
Our event www.rallyrevival.co.uk aims to capture this spirit with a firm goal of closed roads for 2022The Italians leading the way as usual in a proper rally show that appeals to fans. Not much social distancing going on though, you get the feeling they dont give a damn!
Makes a bit of a mockery of our rather stale efforts, but then they approach the whole thing as a show rather than an event. But I do think there is scope in this country for a proper show like this now and then, rather than a basic long historic event.
Again the MSA being a little fussy, I get why it's all to do with insurance etc.
But how can they manage this type of thing abroad in Belgium, Germany (!!!) Italy, Spain, there are loads in France and yet in this country we are so massively dependant on rules and regs.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with that, it is there due to incidents, (they never have any of course elsewhere i the wold lol) indeed there was a huge one at Legend a few years ago, but they just carry on.
Why>? because the area benefits massively, as would an area in this country if you got a Mikkola, Vatanen, Diana, Rohrl, Biasion Delecour over chucking some of their past cars around.
What do we have, the Roger, a massively long event run to strict rules, it's a great event, but it's a Mk2 fest, (boring after a bit) and though it captures the essence of the old RAC, which is great, I do feel it misses a trick at weekends at least not having a fun element.
But how can they manage this type of thing abroad in Belgium, Germany (!!!) Italy, Spain, there are loads in France and yet in this country we are so massively dependant on rules and regs.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with that, it is there due to incidents, (they never have any of course elsewhere i the wold lol) indeed there was a huge one at Legend a few years ago, but they just carry on.
Why>? because the area benefits massively, as would an area in this country if you got a Mikkola, Vatanen, Diana, Rohrl, Biasion Delecour over chucking some of their past cars around.
What do we have, the Roger, a massively long event run to strict rules, it's a great event, but it's a Mk2 fest, (boring after a bit) and though it captures the essence of the old RAC, which is great, I do feel it misses a trick at weekends at least not having a fun element.
I'm in two minds about the Monza round. Part of me dislikes 2 days of it being a single venue event, while the other quite likes the fact it'll be a unique challenge. Flights from Stanstead to Milan are currently £12, but who knows what the travel situation will be by December!
As expected it was a tough day for Elfyn, opening the road in Sardinia. Hopefully a better road position and a couple retirements will get him on to the podium.
As expected it was a tough day for Elfyn, opening the road in Sardinia. Hopefully a better road position and a couple retirements will get him on to the podium.
Bobtherallyfan said:
ash73 said:
Is there a separate thread about Laura Salvo? Just wanted to pay my respects 
Very sad news indeed..a beautiful young lady with a passion for rallying. RIPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmrSrfGQhww
Another co-driver died on an event in Sicily, a sad weekend for our sport.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-service-park-pa...
In other news, all the Hyundai Wrc cars have been held back for further legality checks. The word on Twitter is Sordo's car is the issue.
Edit: Turns out it was an under weight rear subframe. Team fined 30,000 euros, result stands.
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/13153591...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-service-park-pa...
In other news, all the Hyundai Wrc cars have been held back for further legality checks. The word on Twitter is Sordo's car is the issue.
Edit: Turns out it was an under weight rear subframe. Team fined 30,000 euros, result stands.
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/13153591...
Edited by Allyc85 on Sunday 11th October 19:34
Allyc85 said:
I'd be amazed if Monza goes ahead, infection rates are rising pretty quickly in that area.
I keep on reading mixed messages about the the drivers title being awarded or not. Some say Elfyn won't get anything, some that he'll get an award of some type, and others the full title.
I hope he gets the full title. Even though the number of rounds completed is low at 6 so far they have at least competed outside of Europe which is not something you can say F1 has done yet. Not sure what would happen if there was a lockdown in Bahrain/Abu Dhabi. Maybe Hamilton would be European champion? It’s not ideal for the wrc but drivers doing only 7 rounds is nothing new especially in the 1980sI keep on reading mixed messages about the the drivers title being awarded or not. Some say Elfyn won't get anything, some that he'll get an award of some type, and others the full title.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Allyc85 said:
I'd be amazed if Monza goes ahead, infection rates are rising pretty quickly in that area.
I keep on reading mixed messages about the the drivers title being awarded or not. Some say Elfyn won't get anything, some that he'll get an award of some type, and others the full title.
I hope he gets the full title. Even though the number of rounds completed is low at 6 so far they have at least competed outside of Europe which is not something you can say F1 has done yet. Not sure what would happen if there was a lockdown in Bahrain/Abu Dhabi. Maybe Hamilton would be European champion? It’s not ideal for the wrc but drivers doing only 7 rounds is nothing new especially in the 1980sI keep on reading mixed messages about the the drivers title being awarded or not. Some say Elfyn won't get anything, some that he'll get an award of some type, and others the full title.
F1 has already completed the minimum number of rounds required. Hamilton will be world champ. There must be the same in place for the WRC.
To be fair to F1, and most other major motorsport series, they have been able to reshuffle their seasons and have a decent number of races. The WRC has been decimated - which was always likely. Even the 'back up' events - Ypres cancelled and Monza is surely on shakey ground.
If you were being critical, you have to ask why the WRC was the last series to return in early September, when the ERC had re-started in Rome late July. We know you can't organise a rally at the drop of a hat - but the WRC Promoter hasn't come out of this particularly well, added to the absence during lockdown when other series remained visible.
If you were being critical, you have to ask why the WRC was the last series to return in early September, when the ERC had re-started in Rome late July. We know you can't organise a rally at the drop of a hat - but the WRC Promoter hasn't come out of this particularly well, added to the absence during lockdown when other series remained visible.
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