Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

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JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Tuesday 23rd March
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Just one place to discuss all the support races for the year, starting with F2 supporting the Bahrain GP this weekend.

New race format; 2 sprint races on Saturday,1 feature race on Sunday.

https://www.fiaformula2.com/Results?raceid=1027

Teams and Drivers at: https://www.fiaformula2.com/Teams-and-Drivers

TwentyFive

322 posts

32 months

Thursday 25th March
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The new F2 format is particularly interesting. 8 race weekends instead of 12 but 3 races per weekend.

I think it opens up the qualifying to some funny business. The top 10 in qualifying are reversed for Race 1 with four points to the pole man. Race 2 grid is based on reversed top ten finishing in Race 1, similar to the old format but with 10 reversed instead of 8. Race 3 is based off the actual Friday qualifying times. So whoever started Race 1 in 10th (true pole) will have pole for Race 3.

I do wonder if there will be teams trying to be a touch slower in order to qualify 4th/5th/6th. Surely that gives a better chance of 3 solid top 5 finishes over the weekend and major points hauls than they would get by qualifying on pole and starting 10th right in the pack and risking contact which would scupper their race 2 starting position?

It is also worth considering that with two races on a Saturday, having an accident would be much more costly to title hopes and I fully expect to see some drivers missing race 2 due to not having enough time to repair the car after Race 1.

Looks like Schwartzman and Zhou are heavy title favourites. Will also be interested to see how Piastri goes having stepped up from F3.

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Thursday 25th March
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TwentyFive said:
The new F2 format is particularly interesting. 8 race weekends instead of 12 but 3 races per weekend.

I think it opens up the qualifying to some funny business. The top 10 in qualifying are reversed for Race 1 with four points to the pole man. Race 2 grid is based on reversed top ten finishing in Race 1, similar to the old format but with 10 reversed instead of 8. Race 3 is based off the actual Friday qualifying times. So whoever started Race 1 in 10th (true pole) will have pole for Race 3.

I do wonder if there will be teams trying to be a touch slower in order to qualify 4th/5th/6th. Surely that gives a better chance of 3 solid top 5 finishes over the weekend and major points hauls than they would get by qualifying on pole and starting 10th right in the pack and risking contact which would scupper their race 2 starting position?

It is also worth considering that with two races on a Saturday, having an accident would be much more costly to title hopes and I fully expect to see some drivers missing race 2 due to not having enough time to repair the car after Race 1.

Looks like Schwartzman and Zhou are heavy title favourites. Will also be interested to see how Piastri goes having stepped up from F3.
It’s a bit of a sorry state when the only British F2 driver is Ticktum - I’ve defended him in the past, but his last 2 seasons haven’t really shown him in the best light, personally or professionally - this is the weakest season of GP2 / F2 for British talent I can remember.

I’m less fussed about the format changes - it’s no more or less likely for teams to “muck about” than they do in BTCC, and no-one complains about the way that messes with the race order.

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Friday 26th March
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Well here we go - first F2 practice session about to start.

Weird race weekend format they’ve gone with.

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Friday 26th March
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STARTING GRIDS

With three races and only one Qualifying session taking place per event, the results of the Friday’s final classification of the Qualifying session will determine the starting grid for the Sunday Feature Race.

The starting grid of Saturday’s Sprint Race 1 will be determined by reversing the top 10 finishers of Friday’s Qualifying session results.

Lastly, the starting grid of Saturday’s Sprint Race 2 will be determined by reversing the top 10 finishers of Sprint Race 1.

POINTS ATTRIBUTION

The driver who takes pole position following the final classification of Friday’s Qualifying session will be awarded with four points, as is already the case.

Sprint Race 1 and Sprint Race 2’s top eight finishers will be awarded points (15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1) while the Top ten finishers of the Feature Race will score (25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1).

Two points will be awarded to the driver who sets the fastest lap in each race. Any driver who is not classified in the top ten positions at the end of the race will not be eligible for points awarded for fastest lap.

The maximum of points that a driver can score over a race weekend has been increased from 48 to 65.

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Friday 26th March
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JonChalk said:
It’s a bit of a sorry state when the only British F2 driver is Ticktum - I’ve defended him in the past, but his last 2 seasons haven’t really shown him in the best light, personally or professionally - this is the weakest season of GP2 / F2 for British talent I can remember.
But he stays as Williams' Development Driver...... https://www.fiaformula2.com/Latest/3pAArzedtufMLRS...

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Friday 26th March
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WTF!

Turned Sky on at 14:45 when the broadcast started to find Quali half done!

tts!

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Friday 26th March
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Oh this will be fun - everyone (except Pentecof) leaves for their quali lap at the same time....

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Friday 26th March
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Well, that was particularly stupid from Schwartzmann - trying to roll across the track to the pits with no power.

TheDeuce

9,586 posts

32 months

Friday 26th March
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Lundgaard must have understandably thought he had that then!

Impressive stuff.

Petrus1983

4,891 posts

128 months

Friday 26th March
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TheDeuce said:
Lundgaard must have understandably thought he had that then!

Impressive stuff.
.003 yikes

JonChalk

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76 months

Friday 26th March
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TheDeuce said:
Lundgaard must have understandably thought he had that then!

Impressive stuff.
0.003s and on the second hot lap on the tyres - pretty good!

Petrus1983

4,891 posts

128 months

Friday 26th March
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Top 16 all within a second of pole!

Petrus1983

4,891 posts

128 months

Friday 26th March
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Zhou under investigation for taking the chequered flag twice - think he could lose it after all.

VladD

7,503 posts

231 months

Friday 26th March
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Petrus1983 said:
Zhou under investigation for taking the chequered flag twice - think he could lose it after all.
It appears that he may have missed the entrance to the F2 pit, at turn 10, on his cool down lap, so went round again.

Tyre Smoke

17,446 posts

227 months

Saturday 27th March
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Looking forward to this season. I think F2 has the format perfect for great racing. Say it quietly, but it could be far better than the F1 this year.

Petrus1983

4,891 posts

128 months

Saturday 27th March
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Awful move by Tictum.

JonChalk

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4,587 posts

76 months

Saturday 27th March
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Petrus1983 said:
Awful move by Tictum.
Clumsy. In F1 that would get you a 5 or 10 sec penalty at a pitstop for an avoidable incident.

Petrus1983

4,891 posts

128 months

Saturday 27th March
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JonChalk said:
Clumsy. In F1 that would get you a 5 or 10 sec penalty at a pitstop for an avoidable incident.
100%

Sandpit Steve

3,067 posts

40 months

Saturday 27th March
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Dan Tantrum with a penalty. No change there.