2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

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ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Thursday 30th June
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https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/time-running-ou...

Not surprising news, but still disappointing. MSUK hoping for Bobby Willis to find a magic money tree; going by the North West 200 and Ulster GP, if it's a golf tournament, he'd have a chance.

Edited by ArnageWRC on Thursday 30th June 13:16

Dynion Araf Uchaf

3,440 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th June
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ArnageWRC said:
I'm not massively interested in a rally in NI.
Forest roads around the UK, or may be a mixed surface event, but having an event in Ireland is basically like having an event in Belgium to most British speccies.

ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Thursday 30th June
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No, in all honesty our round of the WRC should be a forest event, with maybe some tarmac stages as spectator friendly stages. However, we can't even run the event at all, even as a national/ BRC event. It's gone....just like that.....epic mismanagement.


I would like to see an Irish WRC event, but again, it's up to them to fund it.

fttm

2,901 posts

115 months

Thursday 30th June
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Would be fantastic for NI to have a WRC round, classic decent length stages over 3 days with hospitality like only the Irish can do . Read/watch reports on the recent Donegal Rally if in doubt. Certain that Willis will leave no stone unturned looking for finance and good luck to him .

acer12

889 posts

154 months

Friday 1st July
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ArnageWRC said:
I would like to see an Irish WRC event, but again, it's up to them to fund it.
Northern Ireland is part of the uk….

Dynion Araf Uchaf

3,440 posts

203 months

Friday 1st July
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acer12 said:
ArnageWRC said:
I would like to see an Irish WRC event, but again, it's up to them to fund it.
Northern Ireland is part of the uk….
Sardinia is part of Italy, but there can’t be anyone who’d prefer that over the San Remo rally it replaced.

ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Friday 1st July
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acer12 said:
Northern Ireland is part of the uk….
No way, who'd have thought......I'm not sure I've said otherwise. However, I've consistently said I feel the UK round of the WRC should be a forest based event on the mainland......that is what the history of the event is.

There are no backers (which is no great surprise) , so MSUK are hoping for Bobby to find a magic money tree so they can run it on Tarmac in Northern Ireland....

I would also like to see a return of Rally Ireland, as in 2007/09...but I suspect they have no money to fund it either.







Dynion Araf Uchaf

3,440 posts

203 months

Friday 1st July
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ArnageWRC said:
No way, who'd have thought......I'm not sure I've said otherwise. However, I've consistently said I feel the UK round of the WRC should be a forest based event on the mainland......that is what the history of the event is.

There are no backers (which is no great surprise) , so MSUK are hoping for Bobby to find a magic money tree so they can run it on Tarmac in Northern Ireland....

I would also like to see a return of Rally Ireland, as in 2007/09...but I suspect they have no money to fund it either.



isn't one of the issues, that the cost to run an RAC rally in the UK forests, is multiples of the cost to run a WRC event in another country. I.e. forestry commission hire charges have in some way killed the event?

thepawbroon

905 posts

164 months

Friday 1st July
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I'll go out on a limb and say.....


The next time a WRC event happens in the British Isles, it will be in an Independent Scotland. My reasons for saying that are:

  • A newly-Independent Scotland will have the desire to host world-scale events, so central funding may be available.
  • There is already a fully-functional sporting/visitor events funding and delivery body (Event Scotland).
  • The topography of the country lends itself to both forest and closed-road rallying, and there is a strong track record of both.
  • There are plenty of suitable host venues (Service Park etc) with good road and air connections.
  • Scotland successfully hosted the IRC Rally of Scotland, so there is a recent track record of delivering events of this scale.
  • The organisational capability still exists in the sport and in Scotland.
Just need to time it correctly to avoid the midgies wink


ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Saturday 2nd July
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GravelBen

14,679 posts

210 months

Monday 4th July
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ArnageWRC said:
ERC Rally Liepaja this weekend.
Watched most of it, enjoyable enough. Bit of added value to WRC+ subscription that it covers ERC as well.

Useful test event for Paddon before doing WRC2 Estonia and Finland - brand new car they picked up the day before the rally with zero testing, the first time he drove it in anger was the qualifying stage. Car looked a right handful especially the first day with no base setup to start from, so his pace was pretty good considering that. He lost 38s getting the car restarted after a spin on Stage 3, but times were on track for the podium aside from that.

Edited by GravelBen on Monday 4th July 02:05

ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Monday 4th July
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Rally drivers from Australia/NZ have to jump through so many hoops to get anywhere in the sport; yet there's plenty in the top tiers of racing.......

velocemitch

3,535 posts

200 months

Monday 4th July
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thepawbroon said:
I'll go out on a limb and say.....


The next time a WRC event happens in the British Isles, it will be in an Independent Scotland. My reasons for saying that are:

  • A newly-Independent Scotland will have the desire to host world-scale events, so central funding may be available.
  • There is already a fully-functional sporting/visitor events funding and delivery body (Event Scotland).
  • The topography of the country lends itself to both forest and closed-road rallying, and there is a strong track record of both.
  • There are plenty of suitable host venues (Service Park etc) with good road and air connections.
  • Scotland successfully hosted the IRC Rally of Scotland, so there is a recent track record of delivering events of this scale.
  • The organisational capability still exists in the sport and in Scotland.
Just need to time it correctly to avoid the midgies wink
That's just about the only positive thing I've ever heard about Scottish Independence! Hope it happens... oh hang on, perhaps not. wink

greeny12

261 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th July
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thepawbroon said:
I'll go out on a limb and say.....


The next time a WRC event happens in the British Isles, it will be in an Independent Scotland. My reasons for saying that are:

  • A newly-Independent Scotland will have the desire to host world-scale events, so central funding may be available.
  • There is already a fully-functional sporting/visitor events funding and delivery body (Event Scotland).
  • The topography of the country lends itself to both forest and closed-road rallying, and there is a strong track record of both.
  • There are plenty of suitable host venues (Service Park etc) with good road and air connections.
  • Scotland successfully hosted the IRC Rally of Scotland, so there is a recent track record of delivering events of this scale.
  • The organisational capability still exists in the sport and in Scotland.
Just need to time it correctly to avoid the midgies wink
Hell will freeze over before that happens. But that is very much a discussion for an entirely different message board... wink

ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Tuesday 5th July
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I suspect Event Scotland are behind the World Cycling Championships next August; when we see the first multi discipline championships. I suspect that is a better bang for buck than an International rally brings in. In fact, there were rumours about a Yorkshire ERC/IRC round, backed by Welcome to Yorkshire.....didn't happen. Instead the Tour de France 'Grand Depart' was brought over - one would say they made the right decision.

I recall the IRC Rally Scotland, lasted 3 years and didn't continue - not helped by small entries, especially from UK drivers. Which was a shame as it got live TV, and was in some fantastic stages. I went the first year in 2009, and saw the debut of the new Ford Fiesta S2000 as a course car.

thepawbroon

905 posts

164 months

Tuesday 5th July
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ArnageWRC said:
I suspect Event Scotland are behind the World Cycling Championships next August; when we see the first multi discipline championships.
The certainly are:

https://www.visitscotland.org/events/major-events

But they also support rallying with some significance - e.g. Mull Rally, McRae Challenge, Argyll Rally.

The Rally Of Scotland, from what I understand, was instigated by private entrepreneurs / promotors who went to Event Scotland (and other supporters) and IRC with a proposal. This is the "Bobby Willis" model, and it's the only way it'll ever bring WRC back to these shores. But as you say, return on investment doesn't look good for rallying.




ArnageWRC

1,636 posts

139 months

Friday 15th July
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WRC Rally Estonia......

weyland yutani

1,407 posts

144 months

Friday 15th July
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Is anyone else unable to log into the WRC app? I just set up a new Fire TV stick and the usual profile icon in the top right where you sign in is missing. If I click on a wrc+ video it brings up a log in prompt but when I click it nothing happens.

I watched todays stages on my older stick as I was already signed into it, but now I cant log in. I also missed all of stage 8 because their live stream crapped out as usual.

GravelBen

14,679 posts

210 months

Sunday 17th July
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ArnageWRC said:
WRC Rally Estonia......
Some interesting weather!

LukeBrown66

2,568 posts

26 months

Tuesday 19th July
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Hyundai sounded different this weekend new exhaust maybe, sounded more gruff, also they were using weird cut-outs in the back bumper and the odd car was also using those weird little packets in the front grill area, that I still have no idea what their purpose is? I thought they might be spots, but I don't think so, could they be ballast packets?