Help buying or building a Supertourer

[DanielSan]

Kellerman said:

Close... Quaife straight cut gears, but not a sequential.

Put a sequential in one and add a BTCC style aero kit to a challenge car? Be a lot cheaper to run on track than a proper Supertourer

[bozla]

Yep, and you could probably get a decent chunk back for the quaife dog box.

[DanielSan]

Not a super tourer but a proper ex Clio cup car with the sequential box for 12 grand seems a bargain.

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/125626/x...

[Kellerman]

DanielSan said:

Not a super tourer but a proper ex Clio cup car with the sequential box for 12 grand seems a bargain.

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/125626/x...

That's lovely.

Only a set of throttle bodies away from where I want to be.

[andy97]

You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.

[Kellerman]

andy97 said:

You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.

Links not working for me

[andy97]

Kellerman said:

andy97 said:

You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.

Links not working for me

I will try again:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...


Another option might be something like this:
https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1281...

An ex works “Super Production” car, ŵhich you could put a sequential box in.
I used to have an ex works Super Production Toyota Carina that raced in the same series as this Honda - it was a phenomenal car with basically an early 90s ST type shell but production drive train. If I could have put a sequential box in it I would probably have kept it, but not eligible for the race series I was in at the time.

Edited by andy97 on Saturday 14th May 16:31

[indigorallye]

Andrew Hack is selling his Peugeot 405mi16. It’s an early super tourer and recently fully rebuilt by Endaf Owens. £64k

[anonymous-user]

This appeared on RCD over the weekend…

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/128999/p...

[Olivera]

pablo said:

This appeared on RCD over the weekend…

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/128999/p...

Really cool car, but the advert is one of the worst I've ever seen. Also not sure how describing it as 'this car is perfect in every way' squares with a supertouring register record of 4 recent races, 3 DNFs and 1 DNS.

[andy97]

Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...

[Kellerman]

andy97 said:

Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...

Little bit too modern for me I think

[andy97]

Kellerman said:

andy97 said:

Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...

Little bit too modern for me I think

Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!

[Kellerman]

andy97 said:

Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!

Imagine a 1998 Ford Focus, and a 1998 Rover 100

Both 1998 cars, but 20 years apart in design age.

Modern VAGs do nothing for me as they don't feel like 90's cars at all

[JohnS]

Kellerman said:

That's exactly what I had in mind! Although it doesn't say if it's sequential or not.

Thanks

This in car video (3rd and 4th videos) from his instagram feed suggest it's not a sequential, or at least it wasn't back then: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUNdmgOKub-/

[andy97]

Kellerman said:

andy97 said:

Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!

Imagine a 1998 Ford Focus, and a 1998 Rover 100

Both 1998 cars, but 20 years apart in design age.

Modern VAGs do nothing for me as they don't feel like 90's cars at all

Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.

[Kellerman]

andy97 said:

Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.

Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?

[Kellerman]

JohnS said:

This in car video (3rd and 4th videos) from his instagram feed suggest it's not a sequential, or at least it wasn't back then: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUNdmgOKub-/

Absolutely sublime

[andy97]

Kellerman said:

andy97 said:

Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.

Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?

That’s the first time you have actually explained that.

[DanielSan]

Kellerman said:

Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?

Distance from the windscreen? Have you seen where the drivers sit in most Supertourer's, they're nearly in the back seat