Help buying or building a Supertourer

Help buying or building a Supertourer

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DanielSan

17,564 posts

144 months

Wednesday 11th May
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Kellerman said:
Close... Quaife straight cut gears, but not a sequential.
Put a sequential in one and add a BTCC style aero kit to a challenge car? Be a lot cheaper to run on track than a proper Supertourer

bozla

90 posts

128 months

Thursday 12th May
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Yep, and you could probably get a decent chunk back for the quaife dog box.

DanielSan

17,564 posts

144 months

Thursday 12th May
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Not a super tourer but a proper ex Clio cup car with the sequential box for 12 grand seems a bargain.

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/125626/x...

Kellerman

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42 posts

2 months

Friday 13th May
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DanielSan said:
Not a super tourer but a proper ex Clio cup car with the sequential box for 12 grand seems a bargain.

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/125626/x...
That's lovely.

Only a set of throttle bodies away from where I want to be.

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May
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You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.

Kellerman

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42 posts

2 months

Saturday 14th May
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andy97 said:
You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.
Links not working for me

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May
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Kellerman said:
andy97 said:
You wanted a BTCC car:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...

Ok, it’s a BTC-C spec and not an Super Tourer but it’s within budget and probably cheaper to run than an ST.
Links not working for me
I will try again:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/7386...


Another option might be something like this:
https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1281...

An ex works “Super Production” car, ŵhich you could put a sequential box in.
I used to have an ex works Super Production Toyota Carina that raced in the same series as this Honda - it was a phenomenal car with basically an early 90s ST type shell but production drive train. If I could have put a sequential box in it I would probably have kept it, but not eligible for the race series I was in at the time.


Edited by andy97 on Saturday 14th May 16:31

indigorallye

545 posts

202 months

Sunday 15th May
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Andrew Hack is selling his Peugeot 405mi16. It’s an early super tourer and recently fully rebuilt by Endaf Owens. £64k

pablo

16,420 posts

250 months

Monday 16th May
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This appeared on RCD over the weekend…

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/128999/p...

Olivera

5,361 posts

216 months

Monday 16th May
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pablo said:
This appeared on RCD over the weekend…

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/128999/p...
Really cool car, but the advert is one of the worst I've ever seen. Also not sure how describing it as 'this car is perfect in every way' squares with a supertouring register record of 4 recent races, 3 DNFs and 1 DNS.

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Monday 16th May
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Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...

Kellerman

Original Poster:

42 posts

2 months

Tuesday 17th May
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andy97 said:
Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...
Little bit too modern for me I think

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th May
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Kellerman said:
andy97 said:
Nothing to do with me but this would be worth a look:

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/1290...
Little bit too modern for me I think
Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!

Kellerman

Original Poster:

42 posts

2 months

Wednesday 18th May
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andy97 said:
Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!
Imagine a 1998 Ford Focus, and a 1998 Rover 100

Both 1998 cars, but 20 years apart in design age.

Modern VAGs do nothing for me as they don't feel like 90's cars at all

JohnS

927 posts

261 months

Wednesday 18th May
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Kellerman said:

That's exactly what I had in mind! Although it doesn't say if it's sequential or not.

Thanks
This in car video (3rd and 4th videos) from his instagram feed suggest it's not a sequential, or at least it wasn't back then: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUNdmgOKub-/

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Wednesday 18th May
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Kellerman said:
andy97 said:

Really? The type is 18 years old?

Only two years newer thsn the Clio you liked earlier in the thread!

Imagine a 1998 Ford Focus, and a 1998 Rover 100

Both 1998 cars, but 20 years apart in design age.

Modern VAGs do nothing for me as they don't feel like 90's cars at all
Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.

Kellerman

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42 posts

2 months

Thursday
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andy97 said:

Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.
Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?

Kellerman

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42 posts

2 months

Thursday
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JohnS said:
This in car video (3rd and 4th videos) from his instagram feed suggest it's not a sequential, or at least it wasn't back then: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUNdmgOKub-/
Absolutely sublime smile

andy97

4,389 posts

199 months

Thursday
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Kellerman said:
andy97 said:

Road car comparisons are completely irrelevant when talking about works built race cars of this quality and type.
You were talking about building your own “touring car” in the original thread - the SEAT SuperCopa will be far far closer to a touring car experience than anything that you can build yourself, and even far closer than many other race cars you can buy but i guess i wont convince you.

Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?
That’s the first time you have actually explained that.

DanielSan

17,564 posts

144 months

Thursday
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Kellerman said:

Not at all irrelevant. The feeling of speed and visibility is utterly ruined by the thicker A-pillars, thicker doors, distance of the windscreen from the driver etc. Plus it's a heavier shell due to modern construction methods over older vehicles.

Plus, like many PHers I've got zero interest in VAG stuff. Not sure why you can't accept that? Or why it bothers you?
Distance from the windscreen? Have you seen where the drivers sit in most Supertourer's, they're nearly in the back seat