Button Smashes Barcelona record in major team test

Button Smashes Barcelona record in major team test

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eric mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2004
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Williams were NEVER a mid-field team. In his early days, Frank Willimas ran a team that was invriably at the BACK of the grid. He was looked on almost as a joke by the other more established outfits. His first team only began to pick up when Walther Wolf bought in and they began to run a decent budget. Unfortunately, Frank fell out with Wolf and lost his team. However, he reformed a new Williams team a year or so later with solid financial backing from Saudi Arabia and, almost from the start, showed that he had finally got a decent front end of the grid organisation.

Renault came back into Grand Prix racing in 1977 with probably the biggest budget of any team at the time. They were never mid-field operators, although they had terrible reliability problems at first and they didn't win any races until 1979.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2004
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d-man said:
Oh and then go bust, but I'm not sure that'll be an issue with BAT behind them.

I know someone who was in a meeting with BAR a while back talking about how all the financial bits and pieces are handled. Somebody asked BAR what their revenue streams were. It was at that point that one of the BAT marketing people stood up at the back of the room and said "That'll be us then".

RichB

51,591 posts

284 months

Wednesday 4th February 2004
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eric mc said:
Williams were NEVER a mid-field team. etc.
Fair enough, but you get my drift Eric? Rich...

Izza

571 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th February 2004
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LexSport said:

d-man said:
Oh and then go bust, but I'm not sure that'll be an issue with BAT behind them.


I know someone who was in a meeting with BAR a while back talking about how all the financial bits and pieces are handled. Somebody asked BAR what their revenue streams were. It was at that point that one of the BAT marketing people stood up at the back of the room and said "That'll be us then".


That'll be until cigarette advertising gets banned anyway.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 5th February 2004
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Izza said:

LexSport said:

d-man said:
Oh and then go bust, but I'm not sure that'll be an issue with BAT behind them.

I know someone who was in a meeting with BAR a while back talking about how all the financial bits and pieces are handled. Somebody asked BAR what their revenue streams were. It was at that point that one of the BAT marketing people stood up at the back of the room and said "That'll be us then".

That'll be until cigarette advertising gets banned anyway.

They were talking about this on the local news (which covers the Silverstone area) a couple of days ago.

Apparently BAR and others are threatening to move abroad (to Japan in BAR's case IIRC) to avoid the problem with the ban.

daydreamer

1,409 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th February 2004
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I think that that is more to do with the fact that the EU ban will come in before the voluntary FIA ban, and that all teams based in the EU, or in those countries that have embraced the EU ruline (which will be limited to the UK then ), won't be able to run with tobacco sponsorship for the interim period wherever in the world the race takes place.

See here for further info.

As one or two have already said though, can you see McLaren upping sticks from their soon to be completed £250m new home???

Rich