Alfa 159 1750 tbi (208000 miles)

Alfa 159 1750 tbi (208000 miles)

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Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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It was this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264220870768

I imagine 156 will be different

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Bit of an update on the Alfa, I'll add some pictures soon. It's been serving as my family wagon and airport run (Stafford to Heathrow, quite regular).

We're on 237,000 miles so a good 16,000 in my ownership in the past 18 months. I work from home so it's only when travelling or localish family duties / holidays it gets the exercise. Good comfortable cruiser on the motorway!

It's been pretty trouble free but has not been without it's costs recently:

  • New battery (fair enough, it was quite old, had a dead cell)
  • Service (of course! I did one oil change and Motormech in Birmingham did one)
  • New wheel bearing (Motormech)
  • New handbrake cables: it was barely able to hold on a hill and just passed the MOT. This was pretty labour intensive I believe and added a lot to the bill, but needed doing , probably sooner than this! (Motormech)
  • The engine light was on at one point and down on boost - just a split vacuum line (Motormech)
  • New front brake pads (Motormech)
  • New rear anti roll bar linkages (Motormech)
  • New springs and shocks all round: this has been the surprise. They are likely mostly original, but the passenger front shock rotted through the bottom and so collapsed (fortunately while it was parked overnight). The driver front was about to do the same and one of the rears also didn't look good. Easier to go all round (done locally)
  • New tyres all round over ownership (some new fronts, then rears were gone, so fronts to the rear and new fronts)
  • There's a squeaky bush front drivers side so that's been seen to as we speak. Not an issue but sending me nuts (done locally)
  • The passenger rear window (other side this time!) has gone so ordered the part, will get that sorted
  • I sanded, treated, painted and painted again the front sub frame to make sure it's solid for many years, was showing some surface rust
You could judge quite a bit of this (new suspension and handbrake certainly) as one offs. Other than those the maintenance has been very normal stuff.

We're up to £1,630 so far and that's without the rear shocks and springs and the squeaky arm it's in for now. So we'll be just over £2k I think all done. I bought it for £2995 and likely now it's worth about the same I'd say (not like 16,000 miles depreciates it much more is it!) and it's still a lovely thing for the money, now with fresh suspension.

So call it £2k that's £111 a month or 12.5p per mile. Not bad going even considering the one offs.

I need to give it a good clean!

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Rob-c33sg said:
Bit of an update on the Alfa, I'll add some pictures soon. It's been serving as my family wagon and airport run (Stafford to Heathrow, quite regular).

We're on 237,000 miles so a good 16,000 in my ownership in the past 18 months. I work from home so it's only when travelling or localish family duties / holidays it gets the exercise. Good comfortable cruiser on the motorway!

It's been pretty trouble free but has not been without it's costs recently:

  • New battery (fair enough, it was quite old, had a dead cell)
  • Service (of course! I did one oil change and Motormech in Birmingham did one)
  • New wheel bearing (Motormech)
  • New handbrake cables: it was barely able to hold on a hill and just passed the MOT. This was pretty labour intensive I believe and added a lot to the bill, but needed doing , probably sooner than this! (Motormech)
  • The engine light was on at one point and down on boost - just a split vacuum line (Motormech)
  • New front brake pads (Motormech)
  • New rear anti roll bar linkages (Motormech)
  • New springs and shocks all round: this has been the surprise. They are likely mostly original, but the passenger front shock rotted through the bottom and so collapsed (fortunately while it was parked overnight). The driver front was about to do the same and one of the rears also didn't look good. Easier to go all round (done locally)
  • New tyres all round over ownership (some new fronts, then rears were gone, so fronts to the rear and new fronts)
  • There's a squeaky bush front drivers side so that's been seen to as we speak. Not an issue but sending me nuts (done locally)
  • The passenger rear window (other side this time!) has gone so ordered the part, will get that sorted
  • I sanded, treated, painted and painted again the front sub frame to make sure it's solid for many years, was showing some surface rust
You could judge quite a bit of this (new suspension and handbrake certainly) as one offs. Other than those the maintenance has been very normal stuff.

We're up to £1,630 so far and that's without the rear shocks and springs and the squeaky arm it's in for now. So we'll be just over £2k I think all done. I bought it for £2995 and likely now it's worth about the same I'd say (not like 16,000 miles depreciates it much more is it!) and it's still a lovely thing for the money, now with fresh suspension.

So call it £2k that's £111 a month or 12.5p per mile. Not bad going even considering the one offs.

I need to give it a good clean!
I've got a Brera 1750 TBI on 142,000 miles and I've had the replace the same parts pretty much with the exception of springs. My subframe remains solid, however I have recently had corrosion in the arches and sills dealt with.

My car only does 200 miles a month now, I use something else on a daily basis. I love the 1750 and intend to keep the car for a long time, I've owned it almost 4 years.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Cracking thread and read, great to see it's still with a forum member for future updates.

Markgenesis

536 posts

132 months

Saturday 3rd December 2022
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Cracking thread, bought a 159 of my own a few months ago, a 1750 Tbi Ti, was nearly put off them as most are Diesels,
i really didn't want a diesel as i have a short commute and mostly do short trips so foresaw DPF and EGR issues as well
as the dreaded swirl flaps. The 2.2 and 3.2 petrol motors can suffer from timing chain issues, forked out more than i had
budgeted for the rare 1750 but i'm glad i did, it's gorgeous, has had a stage 1 remap done (240bhp) so goes really well.

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Monday 5th December 2022
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Markgenesis said:
Cracking thread, bought a 159 of my own a few months ago, a 1750 Tbi Ti, was nearly put off them as most are Diesels,
i really didn't want a diesel as i have a short commute and mostly do short trips so foresaw DPF and EGR issues as well
as the dreaded swirl flaps. The 2.2 and 3.2 petrol motors can suffer from timing chain issues, forked out more than i had
budgeted for the rare 1750 but i'm glad i did, it's gorgeous, has had a stage 1 remap done (240bhp) so goes really well.
Very nice! I’m tempted by a stage 1 map but with my mileage, might be tempting fate! Plus it’s got a leak from near the top, apparently it needs a diaphragm that’s not available anymore.

Ben Lowden

6,035 posts

177 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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Just spotted this for sale in the classifieds, so thought I'd share it on your thread (which you're also allowed to do yourself). Need a family wagon, must resist... https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14313450

Yazza54

18,509 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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New to the thread, I think I'd have told "Jay" to get fked but good on you for buying it and putting it right. Alfa's can be just as reliable as anything else if looked after.

Alfahorn

7,766 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2023
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Ben Lowden said:
Just spotted this for sale in the classifieds, so thought I'd share it on your thread (which you're also allowed to do yourself). Need a family wagon, must resist... https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14313450
Someone will snap it up.

casesensitive

8 posts

90 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Hmmm, I was stalking https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14313450 on PH for a little while, trying to justify replacing my 250k km 159 with one with even more mileage, albeit the right engine. Alas, it seems to be sold, I wonder if the new keeper will post here and keep 'er lit?

Zombie

Original Poster:

1,587 posts

195 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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casesensitive said:
Hmmm, I was stalking https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14313450 on PH for a little while, trying to justify replacing my 250k km 159 with one with even more mileage, albeit the right engine. Alas, it seems to be sold, I wonder if the new keeper will post here and keep 'er lit?
It's just passed it's MOT again (29/03/23) with an advisory for windscreen stone chip and an oil leak, which'll be the PCV valve in the cam cover.

Now at 240k miles. Which means it did another 10k in the last 12 months.

Must be going well. It was a good car when I had it. Makes me happy that the work my Dad and I put into it alongside Rob means it's still going.

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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It's still with me smile

At the time, the garage snapped off a bolt while trying to get the rear aligned. So I couldn't do it then, wouldn't of been right. As it turns out that bush isn't available on it's own (where the bolt was seized, so it needed a new arm. It's a big one. £1000 from Alfa.

Motormech sorted out a used one and fitted it. While it was there they sorted the squeaky bush (with a new arm) and installed a new diaphragm into the breather at the top of the engine, which has helped the oil leak a fair bit! Another £700...

Along the way of sorted the drivers electric window (which was noted as not working)

And yes, it passed it's MOT. It's the original windscreen and that chip's been there forever. It didn't pass before it needed a new caliper though, as one of the rear one was seizing, another £220...including the MOT. So we're up to about £2500 spent I think.

Can't be anything else left that needs attention smile She still drives really nicely and over long distances )lots of Heathrow runs last year from Stafford). Here's some up to date pics:



















the-norseman

12,429 posts

171 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Looks great.

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Excellent. Nice to see it’s still tramping on, and the miles are creeping up. smile

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Some eye watering prices there!

Looks fantastic still though, great colour combo.

dandam

226 posts

152 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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Condition is amazing, especially the drivers seat

V6Nelo

765 posts

144 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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dandam said:
Condition is amazing, especially the drivers seat
With a 1998 Alfa Gtv at 164k miles I very impressed with quality of leather Alfa uses, seems much better over time than some new cars from other manufacturers.

Zombie

Original Poster:

1,587 posts

195 months

Tuesday 4th April 2023
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Happy to hear that Rob. You've still got the Integra as well I see.

If it helps ease the financial pain, we went through a similar issue with my Mum's Brera last year. It might be a 2007 car but it's only done 50k miles. After we replaced the front subframe with a brand new one from Alfa, it needed a rear subframe, and rear arms which were a pita to source. My Dad ended up ordering various parts from all over the place, spain, germany and italy. Of course Brexit eased the process of getting them here...

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Alfas eh wink I gave it a good clean as you can see the other day, it’s still a great looking car. Good job really.

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Saturday 29th April 2023
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Pretty impressed with that MPG! Pretty much all motorway as you would expect and a lovely place to be.

I may not have it for much longer…