Fisher Fury, impuse buy!

Fisher Fury, impuse buy!

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Dr G

15,414 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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That's going to be brilliant fun - even more so if you can enjoy it with your daughter. I'm quite jealous.

Probably not a car that needs or would greatly benefit from 200BHP, although the noise/revs from that with carbs (or even better throttle bodies) would be spectacular.

Megaflow

9,991 posts

233 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Waitey said:
2.0 Duratec. MX-5 5 speed. Keep the rear axle.

190bhp for around £1500 all in. (and some spannering effort from you)
^ What he said.

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Cheers for the replies guys. It's definitely food for thought.

Itbs and standalone management would be nice as then I can get rid of all the snakes wedding of hoes and cables. Be much cleaner install.

The plan for now is to use it see how it actually runs. And see what else is bodged to buggery on it.



This should do for now, it's Abit farmyard. At least I won't damage the cable or throttle linkage by pressing to hard now.

The car has drum brakes on the rear and uses a ford master cylinder without out any bias adjustment. So I can see that I'm going to want rear discs and then a bias box.

Not that I have anything against drum brakes on a car of this weight. It's more getting hold of pads/shoes that will cope on track. Discs gives me lots more options.

poppopbangbang

2,146 posts

149 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Furys are awesome and this is an awesome choice!

How keen are you on moving which side the exhaust comes out of? A 1.6 Ecoboost can be had for sub 1500 quid with everything and SCS do an ECU and wiring loom kit that means it'll pretty much just run.....

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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poppopbangbang said:
Furys are awesome and this is an awesome choice!

How keen are you on moving which side the exhaust comes out of? A 1.6 Ecoboost can be had for sub 1500 quid with everything and SCS do an ECU and wiring loom kit that means it'll pretty much just run.....
I guess if I do decide to wrap it. Then not too fussed. The only major for me is most the time it will be me, on my todd so having a hot exhaust next to me in the summer won't be ideal.

Also if this is a low compression turbo engine, (it has a turbo manifold) then the cheapest fix is to just boost it. But it's not really in keeping with what I want from it. I think it wants to be high reving NA goodness on.


Edited by Zephyr Speedshop on Saturday 9th September 15:17

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Yazza54 said:
Great cars, I had an R1 engined IRS version years back. It's got the right bonnet on it too, the later style is nowhere near as pretty.

Wicked! Yeah I hate that leman bonnet they have done. It's looks all wrong. But then I guess they have don it for the racing and engine choices.

I like the aero covers for the lights. Not seen that before

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Here the diff for anyone interested.

Definitely Pretty un happy





So tempted to bang it back in so I can drive it driving , but I need to be sensible and just wait. Just the drive home in traffic was mega. It's a riot to drive.

Yazza54

19,404 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Zephyr Speedshop said:
Yazza54 said:
Great cars, I had an R1 engined IRS version years back. It's got the right bonnet on it too, the later style is nowhere near as pretty.

Wicked! Yeah I hate that leman bonnet they have done. It's looks all wrong. But then I guess they have don it for the racing and engine choices.

I like the aero covers for the lights. Not seen that before
Cheers, I got them from Andy Westgate composites, great bloke. Was 2010 so dunno if he still does them.

Yeah the lemans bonnet is bad aids

unsprung

5,818 posts

132 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Zephyr Speedshop said:
Love the side-exit exhaust.

Looks like bags of fun, this car.

When you get it the way you like it, post a video with appropriate revs. Or inappropriate revs.



Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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unsprung said:
Zephyr Speedshop said:
Love the side-exit exhaust.

Looks like bags of fun, this car.

When you get it the way you like it, post a video with appropriate revs. Or inappropriate revs.
Cheers, careful what you wish for biglaugh , I've got a trackday booked at Anglsea in November. There's no way I'd drive this up there. That's will be the 208. But hopefully, once I have it reliable. I'll definitely take it to brands maybe thruxton or Goodwood but there not great tracks for it. Think I'll be pinned most the way around.

andburg

7,720 posts

177 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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2.0 duratec? Who needs torque in that thing

Twin cam Honda d16 or if you can find one cheap enough a b16 vtec 130-160bhp and let it sing to a over 7000rpm

No idea what box would mount up though

S2000 conversion would be ace but probably a bit pricey

Yazza54

19,404 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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B series spin anti clockwise so are a pain

S2000 engine would be fun

cliffords

1,890 posts

31 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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I had one , factory made with a fireblade engine .Years ago, it was green and I used to hunt supercars on the dual carriageway near my house . This was 20 odd years ago . From roundabout to roundabout it would beat almost anything I met up to about 90 mph.
Could not play that game now . But I am glad I did .

Mr Tidy

24,529 posts

135 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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FWIW Fiat made that twin-cam engine with 1,438cc, 1,592cc, 1608cc, 1756cc or 1995cc, plus a 1,300cc version for the Lancia Beta Coupe. Power was anything between 80bhp and 118bhp IIRC.

Until Lancia got the 16 valve version and stuck a Turbo on in the Integrale, or put a Turbo on the 1.6 in the Delta HF.

So plenty of choice!


alan-87

393 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Love a fury. Mine had a 1400 K series but I ran out of talent taking it apart to fit a KLDE V6 engine and Mx5 gearbox so ended up selling in many bits!

Here's a pic in the ferry queue to Le Mans before I decided to start spannering though!

And one before I realised I'd got too deep

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Dr G said:
That's going to be brilliant fun - even more so if you can enjoy it with your daughter. I'm quite jealous.

Probably not a car that needs or would greatly benefit from 200BHP, although the noise/revs from that with carbs (or even better throttle bodies) would be spectacular.
This is the first none she's got properly frothy for
Don't get me wrong she's been interested but this one seems to have clicked. It's probably the size is less intimidating.

Although apparently it's to loud biglaugh I do plan on addressing it as it does seem mega loud l. Although they mrs thinks it's about the same as the ,,205

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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alan-87 said:
Love a fury. Mine had a 1400 K series but I ran out of talent taking it apart to fit a KLDE V6 engine and Mx5 gearbox so ended up selling in many bits!

Here's a pic in the ferry queue to Le Mans before I decided to start spannering though!

And one before I realised I'd got too deep
Dude you gotta stick with it, everything I've learnt about spannering has been from fking up or you tube. Honestly I've not censored my other builds there's plenty of fkups.

My mottos/headspace is always 'someone built it' so as long as that is your attitude you can do it or reverse engineer it, and adapted to suite.

Should add yours is the nicest looking le mans bonnet I've seen did younweak it as it seems to flow/fit better?

Zephyr Speedshop

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2,414 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Oh and I can't believe know one has mentioned it the Te37 reps are fking disgusting. As soon as I can will be loosing them. Any suggestions? I'm thinking revolution or miniltes ? I'd go force racing bit not sure I can justify the spend. And apparently they need to be nannied to say looking goodmc

alan-87

393 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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Those photos were 10 years ago, so no chance of going back now. 🤣

No tweaking from my end, that was how it came when I bought it - I added the stickers though for le mans.. It was a homage to the beechdean racing Nigel mansell car at the time.

When I took it apart I also bough a new body. I can't remember what / who made it but it was a widebody... think it would have looked excellent. But cest la vie... plenty of other toys have been had since!


Couple more pics of mine, pre dismantle... interior and original K series lump... I'll stop high jacking the thread now.

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Equus

16,980 posts

109 months

Saturday 9th September 2023
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That looks lovely! Long-standing Jeremy Philips fanboi and serial Sylva owner here (currently a J15 - previously owned a Striker Clubman/Phoenix).

Personally, I'm another vote for retaining the Fiat Twin Cam - they're a nice engine, much more 'class' than anything from Ford (you can't claim Aurelio Lampredi provenance for a Zetec!).

IIRC, I think you'll find that the Zetec needs a bigger bonnet bulge on that model of Fury (along with the headlamp height, one of the reasons they moved to the 'le Mans' bonnet style, though they later did a 'traditional' bonnet with a bigger bulge - as pictured on Yazza's car, above).

I'm not anti-rotary, but bear in mind that those people who have fitted them to Sylvas have often struggled with noise limits, if you're thinking of doing track days.

Edited by Equus on Saturday 9th September 23:32