My Lancia Delta Integrale Project.

My Lancia Delta Integrale Project.

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evo2ped

24 posts

127 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Hi David,

The car looks the bizz, it must be a top car now with all whats been done,looks really good.
i'm selling my clio v6 which is at Keiths at the moment, i need to push on with getting my evo
replacement sorted.(also at keiths),

keep us updated with engine dyno etc,

cheers ,paul.

Psimpson7

1,070 posts

196 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Hi David,

Any dyno results yet?

Rgds
Peter

PaulG40

2,381 posts

180 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Awe-inspiring car! Love the blue one above too!

Jw Vw

4,619 posts

118 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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absolute stunner smile

TonyHetherington

32,086 posts

205 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Holy crap.

I've just read this whole thread - no idea how I'd managed to miss it for so long.

Awesome car, awesome build.

Su-bloody-perb.

Keep posting updates, lovely to see smile

Evo

3,460 posts

209 months

Monday 20th December 2010
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Really love this thread and thankyou formaking me regret even further selling my Lord blue Evo2. Maybe one day I'll get another. The club Hi-fi stripes look awesome, wish i'ddone that to mine, in fact HPI racing released a 1:43 model of a Lord blue Evo2 with the TH2's and Club Hi-Fi stripes. I keep looking at it wishing i'd never god rid.


dwrights

Original Poster:

241 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Hello Everyone,

Well the trip to the dyno was a success overall. I arrived in Harlow late afternoon on the Monday with the engine and parts in the van. The engine was secured to a purpose made wooden pallet which in theory should have held the engine in place for the 200 mile trip. Being the idiot that I am I managed to lose the engine 10 miles out of Cheshire with an almighty bang! Idiot (me) should have used more straps!! Luckliy it fell down on the exhaust side and only broke the oil pressure sensor. I didn't know this untill I got it unloaded from the van in Harlow so it was a stressfull 200 miles.

Once I got to DTW in Harlow we then set about mounting the engine on the dyno trolley. Because we are running a Mocal oil cooler we had to modify the mounting plate for the dyno and change a few other things as well. This lost us a few hours and pushed us into late Tuesday morning before we got running on the dyno.






Nick already had a good ignition map from a similer engine build so Nick and David got straight into the fuelling map. After running in the engine for a few hours we started ramping up the revs. It's the first time I have been to an engine dyno with my own engine and it is a mixture of nervous excitement and complete fear that your engine won't last the day!

Around 8pm Tuesday evening we had a good fuel map and we decided to call it a day. We hadn't done any big power runs because the water in the 1000 gallon cooling tank had warmed up so we would do the big power runs on Wednesday with some nice cool temps.

So Tuesdays running went realy well. We saw 496bhp with 469 ft/lbs. This was with a fully silenced old Evo Enginering's exhaust and an old air filter.

The plan for Wednesday was to do the cold start map whilst the engine was cold and then crack on with some big power runs. Cold start map was completed by 11am Wednesday then we ran into some technical difficulties so had to stop running.

So all in all the visit had been very productive. We didn't get to go for the big numbers which spoilt things slightly, but we got some decent numbers without the engine being unduly stressed. I think the engine would easily do 575bhp 540 ft/lbs. The twin injectors worked a treat and the turbo seems quite perky for a modified GT35.

The engine is back home now and waiting to be installed in the car. We will continue the mapping when the cars up and running.

Merry Christmas,

David.



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Edited by dwrights on Tuesday 21st December 09:55

indigorallye

495 posts

180 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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You must be happy with that, well done.

dwrights

Original Poster:

241 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Chuffed to bits.

Many thanks to everyone who is watching and has commented on the build. Much appreciated.

Merry Christmas,

David.

joe_90

4,205 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Excellent.. fair play, what does the map look like? is it very peaky? or smooth?

M666 EVO

1,120 posts

117 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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dwrights said:
Chuffed to bits.

Many thanks to everyone who is watching and has commented on the build. Much appreciated.

Merry Christmas,

David.
Cannot believe I missed this, I spend most of my day on PH and love Integrales (I have a HPE Delta at the moment). Great project and I hope it all goes to plan. Merry Christmas and keep the posts coming please!

Psimpson7

1,070 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Really nice work David. Keep at it!

Rgds
Pete

evo2ped

24 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Hi David,

good to some progress, some descent outputs with more to come, all good ,looking forward to seeing it all up and running.

cheers, paul.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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Coys have a nice Delta for sale right now, certain Mr Kankkunen apparently drove it, just wonder if my piggy bank would have enough pounds in it? (Almost certainly won't).

andyp74199

141 posts

146 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2010
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Insane power, what a machine, am looking forward to seeing the engine back in. Note to self - must own a 'grale one day (and keep it).

bryn_p

415 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Hi David,

What mods are you making to the transmission to handle the power? I am tempted to do something similar engine wise but am put off by the prospect of needing a new gearbox/transfer box every 5 minutes!

Cheers,
Bryn.

dwrights

Original Poster:

241 posts

208 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Hello Bryn,

I do have a rebuilt modified strengthened OE gearbox which would probably give us a limited amount of service if the Motec was programmed to restrict torque in the lower gears. At first I was going to run the car with this set up and be happy but I fear that this would be a false economy and would spoil the fun slightly.

There are options available if you have the time to make them work. The Bacci Romano sequential did look like an option but it's max torque is quite low and the one I know of that has been installed in a Delta has had problems (allegedly)

There is JMC Powers (Mikes) dog box which can handle big power. He uses this in his hill climb race car and uses the OE casings. He posted on Evocorner and offered a discount if four boxes were ordered.

Another option is to scrap the OE casing altogether and go for a gearbox and transfer box that has a proven track record of handling over 500 ft/lbs and which is also very reliable on track. This is the option I'm looking at now. The plus side of this gearbox is that it comes as a six speed manual dogbox or six speed sequential.

When we get the engine back in the car we will take a closer look and then decide.

Cheers,

David.

Sanderevo

1 posts

114 months

Friday 25th February 2011
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Hi David , been reading youre built with big interest. But there hasnt been an update for quite a while now. Been curious how youre getting along, also with the gearbox issue.
looking forward to an update and some more pics.

regards Sander

dwrights

Original Poster:

241 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Hello Sander,

The build has moved on a bit since our dyno mishap. The noise we heard on the second day of running was the oil pump gears failing which lost us our oil pressure. This triggered the failsafe on the engine dyno which shut off the engine at 2k rpm whilst we was mapping for the cold start fuelling.

The oil pump we used wasn't new but had only covered a few thousand miles in a previous engine build, in hindsight we should have fitted a new pump. Could the lightweight ali pulley we used be a contributing factor in the oil pumps failiure? Who knows?? We will be using the OE pulley which has a harmonic damper next time round.

Here's a pic of the gear....



When the engine was stripped down we found some debris from the pump so Nick and Derek set to work to strip down and clean out the block. Any parts that was effected by the contamination was replaced and the engine was rebuilt.

On a positive note, the engine is in the car now and looking very nice. The brakes are complete and fully working. Fuel lines are all done, dash is in and bulkheads have been finsihed off. It's starting to look like a complete car now. It even starts up!!

Next job is the main wiring loom. We already have the loom for the engine/ecu/dash. The main wiring loom is being designed and fitted by DC Electronics in Maldon, Essex. I already have a Motec PDM30 so we can use this. This negates the need of a fuse board and relays.

After the wiring is done we shall get the exhaust made then send the car for it's MOT.

Will post more pics when I have some juicy ones!

Take Care,

David.






Edited by dwrights on Friday 4th March 08:13

deltashad

6,731 posts

152 months

Monday 14th March 2011
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What a fantastic project. I look forward with anticipation to the next posts