I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

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pattyg

1,281 posts

209 months

Monday 12th September
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esotericar said:
pattyg said:
Not keen on the brown interior. I have seen a few 986s with brown and they don’t seem to age too well IMHO.
That's the sand beige. The actual brown (Cocoa) is lovely. But fairly rare on 987.1s and almost non-existent in the UK on 987.2s, sadly.
Cocoa is fine, especially on an Anniversary 986, but tan/beige gets very tatty at the handling points.

2Btoo

3,014 posts

185 months

Monday 12th September
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minimoog said:
... Leaving aside the S2K's subsequent huge gain in value ...
Off topic I know but why have S2k's jumped so much in price whereas the Box/Cayman have stayed in the doldrums? I'll admit to knowing very little about the S2k so there may be obvious reasons, if someone would like to explain them!

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Monday 12th September
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2Btoo said:
minimoog said:
... Leaving aside the S2K's subsequent huge gain in value ...
Off topic I know but why have S2k's jumped so much in price whereas the Box/Cayman have stayed in the doldrums? I'll admit to knowing very little about the S2k so there may be obvious reasons, if someone would like to explain them!
Rare car I think.

Escy

3,403 posts

131 months

Monday 12th September
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It's on the back of the whole JDM market sky rocketing driven by the US I think. Everything Japanese has gone up in value. They've always been sought after, the running gear is in high demand, people want the engines for kit cars, engine swaps and for competition use. I picked one up recently which I ended up breaking due to rust, I couldn't believe the price on the parts. £2000 for a hardtop, £2800 for an engine. They aren't that cheap to run these days. Easily comparable to a Boxster if you need parts.

I think there is a whole load of tat in the middle and bottom of the market, they rust badly, sills, rear panel, rear arches, boot floor. Plenty of people buy a shiny one and realise come MOT time they have a restoration project on their hands. Us Porsche owners don't know how good we've got it regarding rust.

I don't think they are that rare though, I couldn't believe how many people had them locally when I started breaking one. Maybe South Wales is a hotspot.

Great cars though, drove a race spec one around Castle Combe and it was fantastic. You forget they are 2.0 N/A.

Edited by Escy on Monday 12th September 20:26

VSKeith

459 posts

29 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Escy said:
It's on the back of the whole JDM market sky rocketing driven by the US I think. Everything Japanese has gone up in value. They've always been sought after, the running gear is in high demand, people want the engines for kit cars, engine swaps and for competition use. I picked one up recently which I ended up breaking due to rust, I couldn't believe the price on the parts. £2000 for a hardtop, £2800 for an engine. They aren't that cheap to run these days. Easily comparable to a Boxster if you need parts.

I think there is a whole load of tat in the middle and bottom of the market, they rust badly, sills, rear panel, rear arches, boot floor. Plenty of people buy a shiny one and realise come MOT time they have a restoration project on their hands. Us Porsche owners don't know how good we've got it regarding rust.

I don't think they are that rare though, I couldn't believe how many people had them locally when I started breaking one. Maybe South Wales is a hotspot.

Great cars though, drove a race spec one around Castle Combe and it was fantastic. You forget they are 2.0 N/A.

Edited by Escy on Monday 12th September 20:26
Spot on sir

Wonderful engines. Twitchy at the limit though (not sure if they sorted that in later iterations).

IMHO the Boxster is the better all round car

DeejRC

4,123 posts

64 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Crikey. Am I the only person who thinks the S2K was absolutely crap with an appalling engine? I will never understand the appeal of an engine that at best Id consider gutless. Delivering some power and 4cylinder shoutyness at 8k rpm but fk all underneath, is not my idea of a remotely “good” engine.
Anyway, far too off topic.
Back on topic…does anybody know who picked up the £15-16k 997 C2S that was on autotrader until last week?

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September
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DeejRC said:
does anybody know who picked up the £15-16k 997 C2S that was on autotrader until last week?

shalmaneser

5,430 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th September
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ATM said:
DeejRC said:
does anybody know who picked up the £15-16k 997 C2S that was on autotrader until last week?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207127718864?postcode=se156hw&include-delivery-option=on&sort=price-asc&year-from=2005&year-to=2010&radius=1500&transmission=Manual&model=911&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Porsche&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=1

This one? share link please.

I could be tempted into a 997 C2 manual coupe. That car will be basket case though - Scotland too so full of rust.

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September
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shalmaneser said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207127...

This one? share link please.

I could be tempted into a 997 C2 manual coupe. That car will be basket case though - Scotland too so full of rust.
Tiperoony

shalmaneser

5,430 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th September
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ATM said:
shalmaneser said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207127...

This one? share link please.

I could be tempted into a 997 C2 manual coupe. That car will be basket case though - Scotland too so full of rust.
Tiperoony
Urgh

Why do people say they're manual when they're slushers?

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September
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shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
shalmaneser said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207127...

This one? share link please.

I could be tempted into a 997 C2 manual coupe. That car will be basket case though - Scotland too so full of rust.
Tiperoony
Urgh

Why do people say they're manual when they're slushers?
Because they think wrongly that they will get more interest in their Tip

DeejRC

4,123 posts

64 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Agreed on ppl mis advertising the boxes. Bloody annoying when you are only interested in autos and still have to search through the Spanish stuff!

Anyway, thanks for finding the link again. Interesting it is back at £16,950. It has jumped between £15k and 16950.

Glasgow is annoying but basket case is a little irrelevant. Could be good for a 6month winter smoker, then punt out to Phil schofield in spring for the loss of not much money.

Mariosbt

2,364 posts

48 months

Tuesday 13th September
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ATM said:
shalmaneser said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202207127...

This one? share link please.

I could be tempted into a 997 C2 manual coupe. That car will be basket case though - Scotland too so full of rust.
Tiperoony
I really don’t see the problem with the Tiptronic gearbox, I enjoy driving mine.

Not every tw4t wants to think he’s Nigel effing Mansel! driving

esotericar

573 posts

9 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Not liking the Tip' has nowt to do with delusions of driving grandeur. It's just about what you prefer using and enjoy.

Personally don't enjoy Tip' in this kind of car any more than I would a manual in a luxury saloon. Our Nige doesn't come into it.

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Mariosbt said:
ATM said:
Tiperoony
I really don’t see the problem with the Tiptronic gearbox, I enjoy driving mine.

Not every tw4t wants to think he’s Nigel effing Mansel! driving
I enjoy driving my PDK as it is clever so I am not a die hard manual type. I'm not sure I'd like a slower slusher like I have in my BMW. In the BMW its fine as I expect it to be slow to respond sometimes. That could be fine in a P car if that's what you want.

shalmaneser

5,430 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th September
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esotericar said:
Not liking the Tip' has nowt to do with delusions of driving grandeur. It's just about what you prefer using and enjoy.

Personally don't enjoy Tip' in this kind of car any more than I would a manual in a luxury saloon. Our Nige doesn't come into it.
Agreed. I bloody love changing gear so a slusher doesn't appeal, I also hate the sound of those slurred gear changes. Obviously different for a big old barge!

I can kind of see the appeal of a PDK for the wannabe racer but also not for me, possibly if I was going to track the car nonstop but the challenge of changing gear myself on track is part of the fun for me too.

Mariosbt

2,364 posts

48 months

Tuesday 13th September
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shalmaneser said:
Agreed. I bloody love changing gear so a slusher doesn't appeal, I also hate the sound of those slurred gear changes. Obviously different for a big old barge!

I can kind of see the appeal of a PDK for the wannabe racer but also not for me, possibly if I was going to track the car nonstop but the challenge of changing gear myself on track is part of the fun for me too.
I do not get the ‘slusher’ tag. I know the PDK is better but nothing wrong with Tip to me. Maybe because I had Mercedes for 15 years before I got into Boxsters ( 3 , all manual ). and now the 911 …Tip. There’s no ‘slurred’ gear changes. Must have been something wrong with the Tip you drove rolleyes

shalmaneser

5,430 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Hey look I'm glad you like your car! I'll stop saying slusher if you'd like... ATM started it anyway.

slusher

no really I'll stop now

Back on track after a while my 996 is making a sound like creaking ropes on an old wooden ship when I turn the wheel. I think it's the top mounts, has anyone experienced anything similar? I've swapped out the coffin arms so I don't think it's the ball joins as the creaking happens when I steer not when the suspension compresses. Top mounts are still original so no.1 suspects.

esotericar

573 posts

9 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Yes, think that is probably the top mounts.

Mikeeb

300 posts

100 months

Tuesday 13th September
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Sounds like top mounts to me.