I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st September 2022
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Agreed, It is worth bearing in mind but from my experience of owning a high mileage 986 and viewing and testing many others, Rust and corrosion is far, far, far down the list with these cars when compared with many others.

Have a look at Honda S2000s, for a starter!

I remember when i did an interview for a PH article a few years ago, i even mentioned that it was refreshing coming from a series of Japanese car, not to have to worry about rust.

Theres a properly rust black 996 with Aero kit for sale currently but its cheap, and also done mega miles. Not unheard of, but certainly not the prime consideration it is with some other cars.


in fact, other than the blessed Manifold studs and triangular mid-pipe joins, everything mechanical tends to fare very well. I rememver thinking when doing a big suspension refresh, how good the quality of the fasteners, brackets etc was. You can definitely tell you are working on the cheapest Porsche, rather than the most expnesive Mazda, if that makes sense.

The bits underneath a cheap 986 Boxster from this thread are still fundamentally mostly the same bits as underneath a 996 GT3 or Turbo and that quality shows.

RM

592 posts

97 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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2005 987 3.2S with extended leather. Bit leggy but only £6k from a dealer. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209219...

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Decent spec, extended leather, Litronics, Bose.

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Looks decent value on the face of it. Zoom in on some pics and the wheels need a refurb. Looks like it's wearing some mid range Falkens. Also looks like a scrape on one wheel arch but for the age and mileage it's probably what you'd expect. It would be a bonus if it had recent brakes and suspension.

esotericar

745 posts

27 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Crazy amount of car for the money. I always worry a car like that at a dealer like that has been part ex'ed with some major but not immediately obvious issue. Using loads of oil, cracked head etc.

If they're selling it for £6k, what the heck did they pay for it? Would have been pennies.

paulguitar

23,418 posts

113 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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edc said:
Looks decent value on the face of it. Zoom in on some pics and the wheels need a refurb. Looks like it's wearing some mid range Falkens. Also looks like a scrape on one wheel arch but for the age and mileage it's probably what you'd expect. It would be a bonus if it had recent brakes and suspension.
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years. Also, the following flagged up in the last MOT:

Advisory Notices
Front brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside rear anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases manifolds area (6.1.2 (a))

esotericar

745 posts

27 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Yeah, ultimately with careful shopping you could probably net a really nice one with 100k miles and in good condition for about £8k privately.

Couple of extra thousand can buy so much more car condition wise at this end of the market. Unlikely to find anything that wants for literally nothing, but a bit more cash up front would probably be cheaper in the end and help avoid buying a rolling crate of expensive issues.

Still, 3.2 987.1S I think is the bargain of the moment, has been for a while. Best value option, you get so, so much car. 986s seemed to have ticked up a bit, but not the 987.1, they've barely budged. Perhaps held back by bad reliability rep, which only makes the 3.2 more of a bargain as it's really pretty good in that regard.

987.2 Boxsters are looking OK value, too. Seen some really nice ones at reasonable prices, albeit quite a premium over a 3.2.

edc

9,235 posts

251 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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paulguitar said:
edc said:
Looks decent value on the face of it. Zoom in on some pics and the wheels need a refurb. Looks like it's wearing some mid range Falkens. Also looks like a scrape on one wheel arch but for the age and mileage it's probably what you'd expect. It would be a bonus if it had recent brakes and suspension.
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years. Also, the following flagged up in the last MOT:

Advisory Notices
Front brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside rear anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases manifolds area (6.1.2 (a))
Nothing too scary there and par for the course age and mileage wise.

7 times for sale is a useful data point though. Either a problem car or shows that it's a tough sell in the current and recent market despite the uptick in prices generally. With inflation the way it is people aren't using their slush funds for what may be perceived as older and less reliable weekend cars that cost money to run.

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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RM said:
2005 987 3.2S with extended leather. Bit leggy but only £6k from a dealer. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209219...
Amazing deal, you've got the warranty to back you up should something non obvious crop up...

RM

592 posts

97 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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paulguitar said:
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years
Interesting, where do you get this data?

It's the first time I have looked at 987s in a while, there seems to be a softening of prices.

paulguitar

23,418 posts

113 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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RM said:
paulguitar said:
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years
Interesting, where do you get this data?

It's the first time I have looked at 987s in a while, there seems to be a softening of prices.
Yes, I am very tempted, the prices are eye-opening.

Sale data is from 'Total car Check'.

RM

592 posts

97 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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paulguitar said:
Yes, I am very tempted, the prices are eye-opening.

Sale data is from 'Total car Check'.
Thanks.

WojaWabbit

1,112 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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VSKeith said:
WojaWabbit said:
VSKeith said:
Utterly marvellous.

Might we ask the level of poverty outlay?
Thanks, it certainly seems OK for now. Time will tell if that holds true!

A smidge over £10k.
Even more marvellous clap
So, turns out it wasn't marvellous for very long laugh

Took it over to the 'ring and it lasted a few hours before it developed a Tourettes-style tick. Waiting on it being transported back to the UK for diagnosis. I've updated the 'Eary 3.4' thread here for anyone that wants to know more about the dark side of playing poverty pork roulette!

Needless to say it ain't gonna be cheap to rectify, whatever the damage turns out to be. However, the low purchase price of the car should allow me to get up to what a 'good' .1 C2 would have cost me, but I'll end up with a refreshed and upgraded engine. Well, that's what I'm telling myself anyway! silly

minimoog

6,894 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Escy said:
Decent spec, extended leather, Litronics, Bose.
Can't see any sign of Bose but it does have the sports wheel and seats and, I think, cruise. No heated seats though.

Edited by minimoog on Friday 23 September 23:03

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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I forgot to mention the seats and steering wheel, first things I look for usually. You can see the Bose subwoofer in between the seats.

minimoog

6,894 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Escy said:
You can see the Bose subwoofer in between the seats.
thumbup

Skyedriver

17,850 posts

282 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I miss posting "what about this one" on this thread having bought my 986 nearly a month ago. Just thought I'd return to say my 3.2S is fine. (fate tempted)

jimmy p

960 posts

166 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I've still not found a car that interests me enough at the right price. However, now we r heading towards October I'm not really in a rush, just want a car I'm happy with ready for next spring!!
What colour did u get in the end??

ATM

18,285 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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2004 3.2s
6 Speed Manual
58,000 Miles

car was supplied by Mortimer’s Prestige Ltd back in June

£11,995.00

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334566207980

Hidden away in the blurb it says - should you not desire the Veloce upgrade wheels and tyre package currently fitted, the car can be purchased for £10,495 with its original factory 18” Carrera Classic Alloys with excellent part used tyres - that sounds like a much better deal to Me







snotrag

14,457 posts

211 months

Thursday 29th September 2022
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100% agreed, and I did a bit of confirming, they are cast wheels, some sort of re-badged item, and no doubt weigh an absolute tonne.

Forget the wheels, let the seller keep them. The car itself looks lovely. Some real nice 986s about at the ~10-12k mark recently.




Carerra GT Steering wheel (with free car attached) anyone?



45k Guard, Litronics, Sport seats and extended leather.

https://www.douglasclassics.com/vehicle/porsche-bo...

Edited by snotrag on Thursday 29th September 14:35