I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

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paulguitar

17,190 posts

95 months

Friday 23rd September
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edc said:
Looks decent value on the face of it. Zoom in on some pics and the wheels need a refurb. Looks like it's wearing some mid range Falkens. Also looks like a scrape on one wheel arch but for the age and mileage it's probably what you'd expect. It would be a bonus if it had recent brakes and suspension.
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years. Also, the following flagged up in the last MOT:

Advisory Notices
Front brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside rear anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases manifolds area (6.1.2 (a))

esotericar

573 posts

9 months

Friday 23rd September
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Yeah, ultimately with careful shopping you could probably net a really nice one with 100k miles and in good condition for about £8k privately.

Couple of extra thousand can buy so much more car condition wise at this end of the market. Unlikely to find anything that wants for literally nothing, but a bit more cash up front would probably be cheaper in the end and help avoid buying a rolling crate of expensive issues.

Still, 3.2 987.1S I think is the bargain of the moment, has been for a while. Best value option, you get so, so much car. 986s seemed to have ticked up a bit, but not the 987.1, they've barely budged. Perhaps held back by bad reliability rep, which only makes the 3.2 more of a bargain as it's really pretty good in that regard.

987.2 Boxsters are looking OK value, too. Seen some really nice ones at reasonable prices, albeit quite a premium over a 3.2.

edc

8,763 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd September
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paulguitar said:
edc said:
Looks decent value on the face of it. Zoom in on some pics and the wheels need a refurb. Looks like it's wearing some mid range Falkens. Also looks like a scrape on one wheel arch but for the age and mileage it's probably what you'd expect. It would be a bonus if it had recent brakes and suspension.
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years. Also, the following flagged up in the last MOT:

Advisory Notices
Front brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))
Nearside rear anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases manifolds area (6.1.2 (a))
Nothing too scary there and par for the course age and mileage wise.

7 times for sale is a useful data point though. Either a problem car or shows that it's a tough sell in the current and recent market despite the uptick in prices generally. With inflation the way it is people aren't using their slush funds for what may be perceived as older and less reliable weekend cars that cost money to run.

shalmaneser

5,430 posts

177 months

Friday 23rd September
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RM said:
2005 987 3.2S with extended leather. Bit leggy but only £6k from a dealer. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209219...
Amazing deal, you've got the warranty to back you up should something non obvious crop up...

RM

471 posts

79 months

Friday 23rd September
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paulguitar said:
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years
Interesting, where do you get this data?

It's the first time I have looked at 987s in a while, there seems to be a softening of prices.

paulguitar

17,190 posts

95 months

Friday 23rd September
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RM said:
paulguitar said:
It's been for sale seven times in the last two years
Interesting, where do you get this data?

It's the first time I have looked at 987s in a while, there seems to be a softening of prices.
Yes, I am very tempted, the prices are eye-opening.

Sale data is from 'Total car Check'.

RM

471 posts

79 months

Friday 23rd September
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paulguitar said:
Yes, I am very tempted, the prices are eye-opening.

Sale data is from 'Total car Check'.
Thanks.

WojaWabbit

1,048 posts

200 months

Friday 23rd September
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VSKeith said:
WojaWabbit said:
VSKeith said:
Utterly marvellous.

Might we ask the level of poverty outlay?
Thanks, it certainly seems OK for now. Time will tell if that holds true!

A smidge over £10k.
Even more marvellous clap
So, turns out it wasn't marvellous for very long laugh

Took it over to the 'ring and it lasted a few hours before it developed a Tourettes-style tick. Waiting on it being transported back to the UK for diagnosis. I've updated the 'Eary 3.4' thread here for anyone that wants to know more about the dark side of playing poverty pork roulette!

Needless to say it ain't gonna be cheap to rectify, whatever the damage turns out to be. However, the low purchase price of the car should allow me to get up to what a 'good' .1 C2 would have cost me, but I'll end up with a refreshed and upgraded engine. Well, that's what I'm telling myself anyway! silly

minimoog

6,612 posts

201 months

Friday 23rd September
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Escy said:
Decent spec, extended leather, Litronics, Bose.
Can't see any sign of Bose but it does have the sports wheel and seats and, I think, cruise. No heated seats though.

Edited by minimoog on Friday 23 September 23:03

Escy

3,403 posts

131 months

Friday 23rd September
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I forgot to mention the seats and steering wheel, first things I look for usually. You can see the Bose subwoofer in between the seats.

minimoog

6,612 posts

201 months

Friday 23rd September
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Escy said:
You can see the Bose subwoofer in between the seats.
thumbup

Skyedriver

14,628 posts

264 months

Saturday 24th September
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I miss posting "what about this one" on this thread having bought my 986 nearly a month ago. Just thought I'd return to say my 3.2S is fine. (fate tempted)

jimmy p

883 posts

148 months

Saturday 24th September
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I've still not found a car that interests me enough at the right price. However, now we r heading towards October I'm not really in a rush, just want a car I'm happy with ready for next spring!!
What colour did u get in the end??

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

Thursday
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2004 3.2s
6 Speed Manual
58,000 Miles

car was supplied by Mortimer’s Prestige Ltd back in June

£11,995.00

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334566207980

Hidden away in the blurb it says - should you not desire the Veloce upgrade wheels and tyre package currently fitted, the car can be purchased for £10,495 with its original factory 18” Carrera Classic Alloys with excellent part used tyres - that sounds like a much better deal to Me







snotrag

13,563 posts

193 months

Thursday
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100% agreed, and I did a bit of confirming, they are cast wheels, some sort of re-badged item, and no doubt weigh an absolute tonne.

Forget the wheels, let the seller keep them. The car itself looks lovely. Some real nice 986s about at the ~10-12k mark recently.




Carerra GT Steering wheel (with free car attached) anyone?



45k Guard, Litronics, Sport seats and extended leather.

https://www.douglasclassics.com/vehicle/porsche-bo...

Edited by snotrag on Thursday 29th September 14:35

golfer19

1,495 posts

115 months

Thursday
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snotrag said:
100% agreed, and I did a bit of confirming, they are cast wheels, some sort of re-badged item, and no doubt weigh an absolute tonne.

Forget the wheels, let the seller keep them. The car itself looks lovely. Some real nice 986s about at the ~10-12k mark recently.




Carerra GT Steering wheel (with free car attached) anyone?



45k Guard, Litronics, Sport seats and extended leather.

https://www.douglasclassics.com/vehicle/porsche-bo...

Edited by snotrag on Thursday 29th September 14:35
That's a lovely car with lovely options.

esotericar

573 posts

9 months

Thursday
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Guards car looks great. Remarkable to think that pretty much any air-cooled in that condition with that mileage would be minimum 10x the price.

Still quite a few nice condition affordable 986s and 987s to choose from, happily. Hopefully they won't become fashionable. Prefer that they stay cheap!

DRH986

252 posts

126 months

Thursday
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The MOT history on this Guards car isn't that great, which is a shame.

edc

8,763 posts

233 months

Thursday
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That black one with the RH Cup style wheels was being pushed for sale privately a few months ago I'm sure on the various FB Porsche sales groups.

ATM

15,409 posts

201 months

I spent a bit of time tinkering with my 986 yesterday. I'd previously stripped all the hardtop seals off to try to remedy a leak. I finally reassembled everything and I'm just waiting for someone to come help me put the roof on the car so I can test it out. I have probably just made it worse but lets see. I had a little drive around in the old girl. She still feels good even though the suspension arms are all probably way past their best and I suspect all the engine and gearbox mounts too. I have a few clunks and knocks going on. Anyway I'll stop rambling.....