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Nothing wrong with 2.5's of course but the early 2.7's offer a number of improvements with the E-gas throttle and the optional PSM being possibly the most notable.
The trim is generally nicer on the later cars (more soft touch bits and fewer shiny buttons) and the hood has a liner.
It's a dangerous game though as mechanical worries aside, there are so many incremental improvements each year (2002's had a nicer matrix display and electic trunk buttons!, 2003's have the glovebox and glass window etc.) that you can quickly talk yourself into buying the 2013 model.
I wouldn't get too excited about the lower weight of the early cars thoughas the difference can't be much. Just remember the PH Boxster mantra: Don't waste money replacing the ambers and always run the smallest wheels that you can live with aesthetically!
My top tip for early Boxster heaven is to run it without the (optional in the early days) lower centre console: GT3 style. Less weight(!) and that old school look
and replace the front engine mount (if it hasn't already been done).
The trim is generally nicer on the later cars (more soft touch bits and fewer shiny buttons) and the hood has a liner.
It's a dangerous game though as mechanical worries aside, there are so many incremental improvements each year (2002's had a nicer matrix display and electic trunk buttons!, 2003's have the glovebox and glass window etc.) that you can quickly talk yourself into buying the 2013 model.
I wouldn't get too excited about the lower weight of the early cars thoughas the difference can't be much. Just remember the PH Boxster mantra: Don't waste money replacing the ambers and always run the smallest wheels that you can live with aesthetically!
My top tip for early Boxster heaven is to run it without the (optional in the early days) lower centre console: GT3 style. Less weight(!) and that old school look
and replace the front engine mount (if it hasn't already been done).
MogulBoy said:
Nothing wrong with 2.5's of course but the early 2.7's offer a number of improvements with the E-gas throttle and the optional PSM being possibly the most notable.
The trim is generally nicer on the later cars (more soft touch bits and fewer shiny buttons) and the hood has a liner.
It's a dangerous game though as mechanical worries aside, there are so many incremental improvements each year (2002's had a nicer matrix display and electic trunk buttons!, 2003's have the glovebox and glass window etc.) that you can quickly talk yourself into buying the 2013 model.
I wouldn't get too excited about the lower weight of the early cars thoughas the difference can't be much. Just remember the PH Boxster mantra: Don't waste money replacing the ambers and always run the smallest wheels that you can live with aesthetically!
My top tip for early Boxster heaven is to run it without the (optional in the early days) lower centre console: GT3 style. Less weight(!) and that old school look and replace the front engine mount (if it hasn't already been done).
lol, cheers for the advice, if I keep itthe only thing i wouldlike is the glass rear screen ....The trim is generally nicer on the later cars (more soft touch bits and fewer shiny buttons) and the hood has a liner.
It's a dangerous game though as mechanical worries aside, there are so many incremental improvements each year (2002's had a nicer matrix display and electic trunk buttons!, 2003's have the glovebox and glass window etc.) that you can quickly talk yourself into buying the 2013 model.
I wouldn't get too excited about the lower weight of the early cars thoughas the difference can't be much. Just remember the PH Boxster mantra: Don't waste money replacing the ambers and always run the smallest wheels that you can live with aesthetically!
My top tip for early Boxster heaven is to run it without the (optional in the early days) lower centre console: GT3 style. Less weight(!) and that old school look
and replace the front engine mount (if it hasn't already been done).its on 17's so thats fine already, as for the rest, not too fussed, it has a 6 CD Changer so thats all I need ...
MogulBoy said:
It's a dangerous game though as mechanical worries aside, there are so many incremental improvements each year (2002's had a nicer matrix display and electic trunk buttons!, 2003's have the glovebox and glass window etc.) that you can quickly talk yourself into buying the 2013 model.
The old 'Porsche cost walk'.I don;t know of any other manufacturer that is as good at this as Porsche.
dibblecorse said:
lol, cheers for the advice, if I keep itthe only thing i wouldlike is the glass rear screen ....
its on 17's so thats fine already, as for the rest, not too fussed, it has a 6 CD Changer so thats all I need ...
Glass rear screen is a very worthwhile upgrade (though not cheap if you're on a budget). its on 17's so thats fine already, as for the rest, not too fussed, it has a 6 CD Changer so thats all I need ...
The main reason being that you don't have to get out of the car and crease the window when you lower the roof which is a real pain in the arse!!!
As well as freshening up the look of the car, it also has a heated window which is great and plugs into the hardtop socket, so uses the existing button on the dash.
I went down this route when my plastic window cold cracked whilst using it in the winter. I had one fitted by a place in Bournemouth who were great and used one of these hoods from BAS international http://www.car-hood.co.uk/
Quality was as good as OEM in my opinion.
Shewie said:
Glass rear screen is a very worthwhile upgrade (though not cheap if you're on a budget).
The main reason being that you don't have to get out of the car and crease the window when you lower the roof which is a real pain in the arse!!!
As well as freshening up the look of the car, it also has a heated window which is great and plugs into the hardtop socket, so uses the existing button on the dash.
I went down this route when my plastic window cold cracked whilst using it in the winter. I had one fitted by a place in Bournemouth who were great and used one of these hoods from BAS international http://www.car-hood.co.uk/
Quality was as good as OEM in my opinion.
Cheers, £550 doesnt seem too bad and the rear window on mine I have been told has gone slightly milky in one corner, also I heard about the hood 'chop' when opening, sounds like a pain !!!!The main reason being that you don't have to get out of the car and crease the window when you lower the roof which is a real pain in the arse!!!
As well as freshening up the look of the car, it also has a heated window which is great and plugs into the hardtop socket, so uses the existing button on the dash.
I went down this route when my plastic window cold cracked whilst using it in the winter. I had one fitted by a place in Bournemouth who were great and used one of these hoods from BAS international http://www.car-hood.co.uk/
Quality was as good as OEM in my opinion.
Funnily enough the roof chop never bothered me that much when I had my Boxster, my two annoyances were fogging up in the winter and the milky / cloudiness over time. The former wasn't actually that bad (the screen's close enough to wipe with a cloth from the inside, then direct the middle heater-blower at it to keep it clear) and you can buy creams that make a big difference to the clarity of the plastic. I used one made by "Renovo" (about £10-15 I think), in fact I used the same bottle on both my Boxster and (later) my 996 and still have plenty left. If you set aside an hour or two, do small patches at a time as it tells you to, and give it some shoulder-welly the difference is very noticeable (although it'll never be perfect / as new).
I never looked into it that carefully, but I gathered that a new hood with glass rear screen wasn't great. The canvas has to bend in a different way so as to avoid trying to bend glass, and the whole mechanism (and look) is different as a result...?
P.S. For my sins I did change the lenses to clear (the fronts cost a bomb!)
I never looked into it that carefully, but I gathered that a new hood with glass rear screen wasn't great. The canvas has to bend in a different way so as to avoid trying to bend glass, and the whole mechanism (and look) is different as a result...?
P.S. For my sins I did change the lenses to clear (the fronts cost a bomb!)
snorkel sucker said:
So are the 2.5's a safer bet than the 2.7's in terms of 'stuff going wrong? A couple of encouraging posts on here suggest running one with no abnormal costs other than the usual stuff.
At £4-6k they look very tempting, and the "lack" of power wouldn't matter 2 hoots; mid-engined and rear wheel drive + roof off fun. Lighter too, yes? Which means easier on consumables for those days where a cheeky track outing is on the cards...
The O/H wants a Boxster but, as i'm a total Porsche virgin, I get scared by all the IMS horror stories. Should I not be...?!
I find it literally staggering you can get so much car for way less than £10k! As long as you're sure it's not cheap for a reason (real potential for false economies with buying porkies!) it'll be a blast. When buying my 996 I called plenty of official and indie garages asking if they'd take a look at various (private) cars for me, if brought to them, and in the end my usual indie (Northway in Reading) charged only something like £100 for an hour or two's inspection (including up on a ramp and a test drive). You get no recourse as such, except I believed they wouldn't risk their own reputation by letting you buy a pup, and these guys know what to look for after seeing hundreds of the things every year!At £4-6k they look very tempting, and the "lack" of power wouldn't matter 2 hoots; mid-engined and rear wheel drive + roof off fun. Lighter too, yes? Which means easier on consumables for those days where a cheeky track outing is on the cards...
The O/H wants a Boxster but, as i'm a total Porsche virgin, I get scared by all the IMS horror stories. Should I not be...?!
(amateur mistake when I bought my Boxster - Peter Morgan seemed too pricey so I got the RAC in to inspect it. They didn't even drive it - "there was a nail in the tyre, health and safety..." and their helpful comments included "cigarette lighter not working properly"
)Track_Puppy said:
I find it literally staggering you can get so much car for way less than £10k! As long as you're sure it's not cheap for a reason (real potential for false economies with buying porkies!) it'll be a blast. When buying my 996 I called plenty of official and indie garages asking if they'd take a look at various (private) cars for me, if brought to them, and in the end my usual indie (Northway in Reading) charged only something like £100 for an hour or two's inspection (including up on a ramp and a test drive). You get no recourse as such, except I believed they wouldn't risk their own reputation by letting you buy a pup, and these guys know what to look for after seeing hundreds of the things every year!
(amateur mistake when I bought my Boxster - Peter Morgan seemed too pricey so I got the RAC in to inspect it. They didn't even drive it - "there was a nail in the tyre, health and safety..." and their helpful comments included "cigarette lighter not working properly")
Mines been well checked over, so fingers crossed its a good'un, finally get to see it on Saturday .... (amateur mistake when I bought my Boxster - Peter Morgan seemed too pricey so I got the RAC in to inspect it. They didn't even drive it - "there was a nail in the tyre, health and safety..." and their helpful comments included "cigarette lighter not working properly"
)
Well played.
Was off line most of yesterday and so didn't get a chance to see this.
1. The Boxster chop - only required on cold days. Otherwise just watch through the rear view and you'll see if you are going to need it. Over 10degC though and you'll never need to IME, although would might want to.
2. Rads and front wishbones - if one goes and you can afford to do the other at the same time as it will follow as sure as night does day.
3. If you have one without the lower console praise the lord. With my size it made it so much nicer to be able to 'spread' my legs a bit more. Added to which it makes entering via the passenger door when some comedy f
kwit has parked within a mm of the drivers side much easier. I also preferred the look, but that's me.
4. Have you got A/c? if so it will demist very quickly.
5. Don't bother with a glass rear window unless it already has one - for reasons stated by others.
6. In winter ALWAYS carry an old credit card with you. If the window seal freezes to the window the only way to free it without hair driers and the like is to use one of these. The window will bend enough to allow you to open and close it without 'dropping' but if you have an ounce of mechanical sympathy it hurts and the closing part requires opening the roof a little if you are inside the car and the worries that brings with the PAX door and frozen rear screen.
7. Mine had 17"s and I can only imagine how puny 16" would look. Be careful with the front springs as some owners have cut these to make the front look lower and meaner - MOT failure if spotted.
8. RMS - get a new one with every clutch change unless you see a pool of black under the car one day. A drip is nothing (they all do that sir), a drizzle is a problem.
9. IMS - forget about it, if it is going to happen it will and nothing any of us says will influence it.
10. At some point you most likely be blanked by some feckwit in a V reg 996C2 with 11billion miles who deems your car beneath them and another day you'll end up talking to the owner of a GT2RS all night long about your mutual love of cars as he compares his to the 599GTO he got last week. Get over it and the 1001 cleaver sodds who will tell you that it is a hairdressers car, is too slow. They bug you but worse is the one who says nothing but talks behind your back about how flash you are in your £20k sports car. Seriously I lost count for the number of times I was called a flash or similar by people driving cars that were worth 2,3 and 4 times mine in the trade.
Was off line most of yesterday and so didn't get a chance to see this.
1. The Boxster chop - only required on cold days. Otherwise just watch through the rear view and you'll see if you are going to need it. Over 10degC though and you'll never need to IME, although would might want to.
2. Rads and front wishbones - if one goes and you can afford to do the other at the same time as it will follow as sure as night does day.
3. If you have one without the lower console praise the lord. With my size it made it so much nicer to be able to 'spread' my legs a bit more. Added to which it makes entering via the passenger door when some comedy f
kwit has parked within a mm of the drivers side much easier. I also preferred the look, but that's me.4. Have you got A/c? if so it will demist very quickly.
5. Don't bother with a glass rear window unless it already has one - for reasons stated by others.
6. In winter ALWAYS carry an old credit card with you. If the window seal freezes to the window the only way to free it without hair driers and the like is to use one of these. The window will bend enough to allow you to open and close it without 'dropping' but if you have an ounce of mechanical sympathy it hurts and the closing part requires opening the roof a little if you are inside the car and the worries that brings with the PAX door and frozen rear screen.
7. Mine had 17"s and I can only imagine how puny 16" would look. Be careful with the front springs as some owners have cut these to make the front look lower and meaner - MOT failure if spotted.
8. RMS - get a new one with every clutch change unless you see a pool of black under the car one day. A drip is nothing (they all do that sir), a drizzle is a problem.
9. IMS - forget about it, if it is going to happen it will and nothing any of us says will influence it.
10. At some point you most likely be blanked by some feckwit in a V reg 996C2 with 11billion miles who deems your car beneath them and another day you'll end up talking to the owner of a GT2RS all night long about your mutual love of cars as he compares his to the 599GTO he got last week. Get over it and the 1001 cleaver sodds who will tell you that it is a hairdressers car, is too slow. They bug you but worse is the one who says nothing but talks behind your back about how flash you are in your £20k sports car. Seriously I lost count for the number of times I was called a flash
or similar by people driving cars that were worth 2,3 and 4 times mine in the trade.Ahhhh! Poverty Pork. Youve got to love it.
Brings back memories of a 944 I got for 1k a few years ago. Bought whilst visiting my sister in Gurnsey. Bought it, got a ferry ticket drove it back to Cumbria with fingers crossed, left wife to take kids back on plane. (Non too chuffed but hey she kinda getting used to my ways)
Drove if for 3 years spending about £700 on it and got 2k when i sold it.
Poverty, profit pork. The best sort
Brings back memories of a 944 I got for 1k a few years ago. Bought whilst visiting my sister in Gurnsey. Bought it, got a ferry ticket drove it back to Cumbria with fingers crossed, left wife to take kids back on plane. (Non too chuffed but hey she kinda getting used to my ways)
Drove if for 3 years spending about £700 on it and got 2k when i sold it.
Poverty, profit pork. The best sort
Rude-boy said:
Well played.
Was off line most of yesterday and so didn't get a chance to see this.
1. The Boxster chop - only required on cold days. Otherwise just watch through the rear view and you'll see if you are going to need it. Over 10degC though and you'll never need to IME, although would might want to.
2. Rads and front wishbones - if one goes and you can afford to do the other at the same time as it will follow as sure as night does day.
3. If you have one without the lower console praise the lord. With my size it made it so much nicer to be able to 'spread' my legs a bit more. Added to which it makes entering via the passenger door when some comedy fkwit has parked within a mm of the drivers side much easier. I also preferred the look, but that's me.
4. Have you got A/c? if so it will demist very quickly.
5. Don't bother with a glass rear window unless it already has one - for reasons stated by others.
6. In winter ALWAYS carry an old credit card with you. If the window seal freezes to the window the only way to free it without hair driers and the like is to use one of these. The window will bend enough to allow you to open and close it without 'dropping' but if you have an ounce of mechanical sympathy it hurts and the closing part requires opening the roof a little if you are inside the car and the worries that brings with the PAX door and frozen rear screen.
7. Mine had 17"s and I can only imagine how puny 16" would look. Be careful with the front springs as some owners have cut these to make the front look lower and meaner - MOT failure if spotted.
8. RMS - get a new one with every clutch change unless you see a pool of black under the car one day. A drip is nothing (they all do that sir), a drizzle is a problem.
9. IMS - forget about it, if it is going to happen it will and nothing any of us says will influence it.
10. At some point you most likely be blanked by some feckwit in a V reg 996C2 with 11billion miles who deems your car beneath them and another day you'll end up talking to the owner of a GT2RS all night long about your mutual love of cars as he compares his to the 599GTO he got last week. Get over it and the 1001 cleaver sodds who will tell you that it is a hairdressers car, is too slow. They bug you but worse is the one who says nothing but talks behind your back about how flash you are in your £20k sports car. Seriously I lost count for the number of times I was called a flash or similar by people driving cars that were worth 2,3 and 4 times mine in the trade.
I like this. Great post. Very usefulWas off line most of yesterday and so didn't get a chance to see this.
1. The Boxster chop - only required on cold days. Otherwise just watch through the rear view and you'll see if you are going to need it. Over 10degC though and you'll never need to IME, although would might want to.
2. Rads and front wishbones - if one goes and you can afford to do the other at the same time as it will follow as sure as night does day.
3. If you have one without the lower console praise the lord. With my size it made it so much nicer to be able to 'spread' my legs a bit more. Added to which it makes entering via the passenger door when some comedy f
kwit has parked within a mm of the drivers side much easier. I also preferred the look, but that's me.4. Have you got A/c? if so it will demist very quickly.
5. Don't bother with a glass rear window unless it already has one - for reasons stated by others.
6. In winter ALWAYS carry an old credit card with you. If the window seal freezes to the window the only way to free it without hair driers and the like is to use one of these. The window will bend enough to allow you to open and close it without 'dropping' but if you have an ounce of mechanical sympathy it hurts and the closing part requires opening the roof a little if you are inside the car and the worries that brings with the PAX door and frozen rear screen.
7. Mine had 17"s and I can only imagine how puny 16" would look. Be careful with the front springs as some owners have cut these to make the front look lower and meaner - MOT failure if spotted.
8. RMS - get a new one with every clutch change unless you see a pool of black under the car one day. A drip is nothing (they all do that sir), a drizzle is a problem.
9. IMS - forget about it, if it is going to happen it will and nothing any of us says will influence it.
10. At some point you most likely be blanked by some feckwit in a V reg 996C2 with 11billion miles who deems your car beneath them and another day you'll end up talking to the owner of a GT2RS all night long about your mutual love of cars as he compares his to the 599GTO he got last week. Get over it and the 1001 cleaver sodds who will tell you that it is a hairdressers car, is too slow. They bug you but worse is the one who says nothing but talks behind your back about how flash you are in your £20k sports car. Seriously I lost count for the number of times I was called a flash
or similar by people driving cars that were worth 2,3 and 4 times mine in the trade.dibblecorse said:
Mines been well checked over, so fingers crossed its a good'un, finally get to see it on Saturday ....
Sorry, my post was actually aimed at giving snorkel some comfort - it's a travesty if people shy away from taking the plunge, just take a few sensible precautions and it'll be incredibly rewarding (especially for the current prices). Am sure yours will be great dibble, in fact I'm genuinely quite excited for you!!! There's nothing like picking up your very own Box'! Enjoy tmw Rude-boy said:
10. At some point you most likely be blanked by some feckwit in a V reg 996C2 with 11billion miles who deems your car beneath them and another day you'll end up talking to the owner of a GT2RS all night long about your mutual love of cars as he compares his to the 599GTO he got last week
Know exactly what you mean. Reminds me of some up-themselves tw@ congratulating me when I got my 911 (in fact it's a V reg 996 LOL!!!) for "getting rid of the hairdresser-mobile", which pi55ed me off royally, and at which point I was told I "don't need to defend it anymore". ALWAYS comes from the same type of person - in this case from someone who asked (quote) "was your Boxster a convertible?" 
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