I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

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Fast Bug

6,783 posts

102 months

Wednesday 15th May
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That Boxster is lovely!

ATM

9,026 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th May
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cmoose said:
ATM said:
This 996 isn't cheap at 21k but looks nice. I'm not sure I'd go for a 2001 if I was going 3.4 myself but if you want a garage queen you have less choice.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

A garage queen with 81,000 miles? For £21,000? In a private sale? Good luck to the seller!

The 986 does rather underline the iffy 996 value proposition. That looks like a proper garage queen and it's half the bloody money!

Edited by cmoose on Wednesday 15th May 09:52
I agree but the owner has clearly spent some time garage queening it, even if he didn't start with the right car. Why else post pics like these?




ATM

9,026 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Fast Bug said:
That Boxster is lovely!
STOP

This isn't helping my raging desire.

cmoose

44,312 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th May
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ATM said:
I agree but the owner has clearly spent some time garage queening it, even if he didn't start with the right car. Why else post pics like these?
Owner may well have done. But the market for garage trophies is mileage obsessed and cleaning out the wheel arches doesn't turn an 80k car into a low mile garage trophy.

Valuation looks completely potty to me. Given that, I'm not sure I'd want to buy from the vendor, if you know what I mean. Find excessively toppy valuations off putting. Far prefer to deal with owners who price realistically, unless they have something so particular / special you have no choice. Which I dare say ain't the case here. It's a 996 with 81,000 miles and it's overpriced by miles, especially for a private sale.

If it had 15k miles or whatever, then I guess if you wanted a 996 to not drive, it could be interesting. But buy that and drive it a bit and pretty soon you've got a 100,000 mile 996 C2 with dirty arches for which you recently paid £21,000! Can't see it remotely makes sense...but I may be missing something.

Mogul

2,358 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th May
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That Cobalt 986 is really crying out for a set of Blue tyres! smile

I chose Metropole for the top on my old Lapis 986 as it felt right in 2002 but I subsequently thought it looked a bit odd and I ended up replacing it with a black one and never regretted it.

Been thinking about a late 987 Gen 2 recently but the plethora of much cheaper 986s makes them look expensive (high teens £) even though they are still half the price of an equivalent 997 and therefore still tremendous value.

Daaaam! I’m now getting interested in early 996s again...

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ATM

9,026 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Mogul said:
That Cobalt 986 is really crying out for a set of Blue tyres! smile

I chose Metropole for the top on my old Lapis 986 as it felt right in 2002 but I subsequently thought it looked a bit odd and I ended up replacing it with a black one and never regretted it.

Been thinking about a late 987 Gen 2 recently but the plethora of much cheaper 986s makes them look expensive (high teens £) even though they are still half the price of an equivalent 997 and therefore still tremendous value.

Daaaam! I’m now getting interested in early 996s again...
My first Porsche was a lapis 986. It was the .2 with blue roof and Savannah and those Carrera wheels. I didn't go looking for that combo just ended up with it.

I've got an early 996 now and I love it. I really recommend you get one if you want one. Mine is tatty so I can use it without worry. It lives outside and gets used for commuting or just going to the shops most days. The only bad news is the roof doesn't come down but as I do not like 996 nb cabs that's fine until the weather gets nice and I have soft top envy.

Rosewood Red

361 posts

94 months

Wednesday 15th May
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ATM said:
STOP

This isn't helping my raging desire.
You posted it confused

hehe

jamie w

76 posts

112 months

Thursday
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ATM said:
And because I like cobalt I'll present this lovely looking 986 which is causing me sleepless nights.

Full extended blue leather
Blue roof
Blue
Blue
Blue

11 grand
37000 miles

Still looks new....



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223478791012



If you get any further with that may I suggest that if you're not confident with doing a thourough check/inspection yourself you arrange for someone who is to take a look. I acquired a similar low mileage 986S and it has needed a lot of refreshing...

My experience with that dealer btw was that they weren't averse to glossing over any faults/items I raised with them when viewing. A firm approach may be needed....



snotrag

11,813 posts

152 months

Thursday
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For all those worried about miles -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-Months-MOT-Facelift-...

206'000 and counting.

Best colour too biggrin

CB 987

204 posts

88 months

Thursday
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cmoose said:
ATM said:
I agree but the owner has clearly spent some time garage queening it, even if he didn't start with the right car. Why else post pics like these?
Owner may well have done. But the market for garage trophies is mileage obsessed and cleaning out the wheel arches doesn't turn an 80k car into a low mile garage trophy.

Valuation looks completely potty to me. Given that, I'm not sure I'd want to buy from the vendor, if you know what I mean. Find excessively toppy valuations off putting. Far prefer to deal with owners who price realistically, unless they have something so particular / special you have no choice. Which I dare say ain't the case here. It's a 996 with 81,000 miles and it's overpriced by miles, especially for a private sale.

If it had 15k miles or whatever, then I guess if you wanted a 996 to not drive, it could be interesting. But buy that and drive it a bit and pretty soon you've got a 100,000 mile 996 C2 with dirty arches for which you recently paid £21,000! Can't see it remotely makes sense...but I may be missing something.
On the topic of 996’s I am inclined to agree with your summary. The market feels slow at the moment, my early 996 C2 Man Cpe (69k miles) is currently in the classifieds for a whisker under £15k and I’m surprised I’ve not had more interest. I appreciate the early cars aren’t everyone’s cup of tea! I won’t post the link to avoid breaking any rules.

Cheers!

cmoose

44,312 posts

170 months

Thursday
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The one on C4 17s, yeah? Looks really super. Was looking at it a few days ago and the wallet twitched a bit! hehe

Can't be arsed to change cars right now, but had it been for sale when I was last switching, would have been on the list. Good luck with the sale.

Fast Bug

6,783 posts

102 months

Thursday
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It's a great looking car, I'm surprised it hasn't gone. I know the interior colour might not be everyones cup of tea, but I think it looks great with the SIlver

CB 987

204 posts

88 months

Thursday
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Cheers both, yes it is the silver one on 17 inch C4's, I know the interior is a bit marmite, personally I love it!

I hope now the weather has improved I will start to see some more interest.

57Ford

1,218 posts

75 months

Saturday
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Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
MadRob6 said:
I recognised the part whilst it was in pieces as I've encountered latch issues with an old 98 Passat that I used to own. Looking up the part number on the latch it's identical to a mk1 Audi TT so could always see if the parts are any cheaper from VW.
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Thank you good sir, I purchased a Mk1 TT door mechanism for 17 sterling pounds just now based on your info. For disassembly / clean / swap practice, if it improves the window drop I'll probably get a (more than 17 quid) one and swap again for a permanent fix, this is a poverty thread after all.
Be careful! I bought a brand new latch for £23 on Ebay which I think must be the one used across a range of cars and once fitted with door card back on, couldn’t unlock the door.
There was a lot of ‘Basil Fawlty’ type action for the following few evenings before I managed to get past the door card and drop the handle off. I still have the scars on my arms 2 weeks later! Upon closer inspection I found there’s a plastic arm on top which is not needed for a 986 but interferes with the inner door shape meaning it prevents unlocking. An expert modification with side cutters cured that.
Don’t get me started on the ‘torx’ screes which aren’t. I hope whoever specced those has been shot...

57Ford

1,218 posts

75 months

Saturday
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ATM said:
It's a bit quiet in here. Is everyone busy enjoying their cheap pork avec le roof down in this heat wave?
After managing to get into the car again, I was so elated to get it out of the garage and fling the lid down that I neglected the sun cream. I’m now sporting 3rd degree sunburn along with my self-harm-look arms. Great stuff this poverty pork innit?

Engelberger

123 posts

8 months

Saturday
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ATM said:
This 996 isn't cheap at 21k but looks nice. I'm not sure I'd go for a 2001 if I was going 3.4 myself but if you want a garage queen you have less choice.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

That car is well known on the 911 forums and represents a fantastic buy. Market must be slow when something as well looked after isn't selling at a fair price.

cmoose

44,312 posts

170 months

Saturday
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Engelberger said:
That car is well known on the 911 forums and represents a fantastic buy. Market must be slow when something as well looked after isn't selling at a fair price.
Don't think it's an indication the market is slow. The market might be slow, but a 996 C2 with 80k miles not selling for £21,000 I don't think indicates that!

It's priced very, very high for any 996 3.4 C2. With the miles it has, there will be very few potential buyers at that price. I think one can say that without taking any view on the condition of the car. Simply reflects the reality of how the market values cars, which often isn't fair but can't be avoided. Mileage is very important - and to command top money, mileage typically needs to be low. If it isn't, I would suggest it's a very, very hard sell.

If that car had, say, 15,000 miles, I think odds are it would very likely be long gone.

Personally, I don't think the price is fair simply because you'd be very likely to take a large hit at resale if you bought it for £21,000 and had to punt it on at short notice. Again, that's regardless of the condition of the car. It just doesn't have low enough mileage to command that kind of money on the open market. A very particular kind of enthusiast might pay it, no doubt, but that doesn't make the valuation fair.

ferrisbueller

22,680 posts

168 months

Saturday
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Agreed, it's very overpriced. Mid to late (at best) teens IMO

ATM

9,026 posts

160 months

Saturday
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It hasn't sold so clearly it is priced too high. Everything will sell if the price is right.

Fast Bug

6,783 posts

102 months

Saturday
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Well this sold for £16k today, pretty sure the previous owner is a garage whch makes me wonder why they didn't sell it themselves?



www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2019-05-18/car...

Cat D, not all that nice up close, drivers door took 3 attemots to shut when I tried to close it...

£16k

I know I'd rather spend the extra money on the Silver car
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