After removing my front plinth, i've noticed a butcher put..

After removing my front plinth, i've noticed a butcher put..

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EVOeng

925 posts

108 months

Monday 28th January
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Remove the bumper, remove any high points, fill and you may get away with a smart repair.

JB991.2GTS

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8 posts

7 months

Thursday 7th February
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Taffy66 said:
After a couple of OPC mishaps i now insist well beforehand than any Porsche sports cars i buy will have totally unmolested bumpers..I have this in writing which gives me grounds to reject the car which this rather simple request is not upheld.
When i bought my 458 recently i was only interested in any with no drilled front bumpers. Thank god the majority of Ferraris are like this anyway..!
i will do the same wether i order or insist they take of the front number plate if i buy second hand!

jakesmith

3,184 posts

109 months

Thursday 7th February
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Someone has done this to my R8, it's horrific, there are 2 special holes already drilled and all the guy had to do was measure them apart and drill the same distance on the plate, would have taken a few moments

I'm guessing it was the same owner who I can see in the service notes, replaced one shock and not the opposite which just failed, and took his own brake fluid along to Audi at service time but they wouldn't use it as it was the wrong type. There was no subsequent change of fluid in the history

Paul_M3

1,202 posts

123 months

Thursday 7th February
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jakesmith said:
Someone has done this to my R8, it's horrific, there are 2 special holes already drilled and all the guy had to do was measure them apart and drill the same distance on the plate, would have taken a few moments

I'm guessing it was the same owner who I can see in the service notes, replaced one shock and not the opposite which just failed, and took his own brake fluid along to Audi at service time but they wouldn't use it as it was the wrong type. There was no subsequent change of fluid in the history
What was the registration number? Didn’t end in RLX did it?

Edited by Paul_M3 on Thursday 7th February 22:38

jakesmith

3,184 posts

109 months

Thursday 7th February
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Certainly did!

Were you the hole driller? Or a different owner of the car. This place is full of surprises!


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Paul_M3

1,202 posts

123 months

Friday 8th February
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jakesmith said:
Certainly did!

Were you the hole driller? Or a different owner of the car. This place is full of surprises!
I definitely wasn't the hole driller. That plate was on the car when I got it. I also wasn't the person who changed one damper. I was however the brake fluid guy, but it wasn't because I provided the wrong fluid...

Audi use the same bog standard fluid on every car they service. I provided some much higher spec and more expensive Gulf RF1000 fluid. I got a phone call to say that were unable (unwilling) to use it, as their equipment contains several litres of the standard fluid for use on services, and to use mine they would have to drain it all out. I was amazed that they didn't have a standalone bleeder, so I just told them to leave it.

I didn't just not bother doing it though. I'm an engineer by trade, and reasonably handy with the spanners, so I did it myself. (Which I would normally have done anyway, but thought a stamp in the book would be nice) No stamp obviously, but there is photographic evidence to prove I'm not telling lies:



I noticed at this point that the rear discs were more corroded on the inside face than I was happy with, so I put new discs and pads on as you can see in the photograph.

I also don't believe in 'lifelong' fluids for gearboxes, so while I had the car in the air I also changed the gearbox oil:



You have to remove the airbox assembly to got to the fill point. Fitted some nice new pipercross filters when I was in there:



One thing Audi DID manage to achieve, was to turn already slightly swirled paint into a complete mess. God only knows what they washed it with. Luckily I also happen to have a fair amount of polishing / detailing equipment in my garage.

This was the bonnet before I started:



And this was after I'd done half: Hopefully you can see which side is which....



There's one final thing also not in the history folder you've got. I assume you know about the problem with these engines getting huge amounts of carbon build up on the inlet valves?

I had a (and quite overpriced as I subsequently found out) de-coke service done at AMD Tuning. This is the proper strip and physical removal service, not those 'blast some oxygen through the inlet' ones. It was done at approx 43,500 miles for your info, and they also do a before and after power run. (Not that I asked for one)





So there you go, a bit of extra info about your car.

So whilst I can't speak for the cowboy / cheapskate previous owners, hopefully you've now got a slightly better opinion of the bloke who provided his own brake fluid. smile

Cheers,
Paul.

SHutchinson

1,659 posts

122 months

Friday 8th February
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Paul_M3 said:
jakesmith said:
Certainly did!

Were you the hole driller? Or a different owner of the car. This place is full of surprises!
.... history ....
Pistonheads is funny! Nice reply.

Slippydiff

10,090 posts

161 months

Friday 8th February
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Paul_M3 said:
I definitely wasn't the hole driller. That plate was on the car when I got it. I also wasn't the person who changed one damper. I was however the brake fluid guy, but it wasn't because I provided the wrong fluid...

Audi use the same bog standard fluid on every car they service. I provided some much higher spec and more expensive Gulf RF1000 fluid. I got a phone call to say that were unable (unwilling) to use it, as their equipment contains several litres of the standard fluid for use on services, and to use mine they would have to drain it all out. I was amazed that they didn't have a standalone bleeder, so I just told them to leave it.

I didn't just not bother doing it though. I'm an engineer by trade, and reasonably handy with the spanners, so I did it myself. (Which I would normally have done anyway, but thought a stamp in the book would be nice) No stamp obviously, but there is photographic evidence to prove I'm not telling lies:



I noticed at this point that the rear discs were more corroded on the inside face than I was happy with, so I put new discs and pads on as you can see in the photograph.

I also don't believe in 'lifelong' fluids for gearboxes, so while I had the car in the air I also changed the gearbox oil:



You have to remove the airbox assembly to got to the fill point. Fitted some nice new pipercross filters when I was in there:



One thing Audi DID manage to achieve, was to turn already slightly swirled paint into a complete mess. God only knows what they washed it with. Luckily I also happen to have a fair amount of polishing / detailing equipment in my garage.

This was the bonnet before I started:



And this was after I'd done half: Hopefully you can see which side is which....



There's one final thing also not in the history folder you've got. I assume you know about the problem with these engines getting huge amounts of carbon build up on the inlet valves?

I had a (and quite overpriced as I subsequently found out) de-coke service done at AMD Tuning. This is the proper strip and physical removal service, not those 'blast some oxygen through the inlet' ones. It was done at approx 43,500 miles for your info, and they also do a before and after power run. (Not that I asked for one)





So there you go, a bit of extra info about your car.

So whilst I can't speak for the cowboy / cheapskate previous owners, hopefully you've now got a slightly better opinion of the bloke who provided his own brake fluid. smile

Cheers,
Paul.
Best post on PH in a long time !! And yes, it would definitely put my mind at rest if I were the current owner of the car. But also proves how completely inflexible dealer service department are these days.


jakesmith

3,184 posts

109 months

Friday 8th February
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Paul_M3 said:
I definitely wasn't the hole driller. That plate was on the car when I got it. I also wasn't the person who changed one damper. I was however the brake fluid guy, but it wasn't because I provided the wrong fluid...

Audi use the same bog standard fluid on every car they service. I provided some much higher spec and more expensive Gulf RF1000 fluid. I got a phone call to say that were unable (unwilling) to use it, as their equipment contains several litres of the standard fluid for use on services, and to use mine they would have to drain it all out. I was amazed that they didn't have a standalone bleeder, so I just told them to leave it.

I didn't just not bother doing it though. I'm an engineer by trade, and reasonably handy with the spanners, so I did it myself. (Which I would normally have done anyway, but thought a stamp in the book would be nice) No stamp obviously, but there is photographic evidence to prove I'm not telling lies:



I noticed at this point that the rear discs were more corroded on the inside face than I was happy with, so I put new discs and pads on as you can see in the photograph.

I also don't believe in 'lifelong' fluids for gearboxes, so while I had the car in the air I also changed the gearbox oil:



You have to remove the airbox assembly to got to the fill point. Fitted some nice new pipercross filters when I was in there:



One thing Audi DID manage to achieve, was to turn already slightly swirled paint into a complete mess. God only knows what they washed it with. Luckily I also happen to have a fair amount of polishing / detailing equipment in my garage.

This was the bonnet before I started:



And this was after I'd done half: Hopefully you can see which side is which....



There's one final thing also not in the history folder you've got. I assume you know about the problem with these engines getting huge amounts of carbon build up on the inlet valves?

I had a (and quite overpriced as I subsequently found out) de-coke service done at AMD Tuning. This is the proper strip and physical removal service, not those 'blast some oxygen through the inlet' ones. It was done at approx 43,500 miles for your info, and they also do a before and after power run. (Not that I asked for one)





So there you go, a bit of extra info about your car.

So whilst I can't speak for the cowboy / cheapskate previous owners, hopefully you've now got a slightly better opinion of the bloke who provided his own brake fluid. smile

Cheers,
Paul.
Amazing post! Thanks so much for taking the time & makes me really happy to read that... mainly!

Unfortunately I didn't know some of this and... also I had the engine properly de-coked at 54,000 miles ony 16 months after you did it!!!! (the guy who did it didn't mention that it was very clean in there), had the filters replaced as apparently they were knackered, and changed the brake fluid! Probably for the bog standard stuff, DOH!

I have also added carbon side blades, cruise, heated seats, put new MAFs on, new MPS4S all round, serviced it, replaced the broken strut and high level brake light, put on a Quicksilver exhaust, and fitted bluetooth, dashcam, active phone cradle. So about £8k!! BUT... can't beat it as a car. So special to look at and drive, for it's pricepoint there is nothing else that's such a complete package. It's my all time dream car and I can't believe I have one. It should be good for a while now anyway touch wood smile




Paul_M3

1,202 posts

123 months

Friday 8th February
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jakesmith said:
Amazing post! Thanks so much for taking the time & makes me really happy to read that... mainly!

Unfortunately I didn't know some of this and... also I had the engine properly de-coked at 54,000 miles ony 16 months after you did it!!!! (the guy who did it didn't mention that it was very clean in there), had the filters replaced as apparently they were knackered, and changed the brake fluid! Probably for the bog standard stuff, DOH!

I have also added carbon side blades, cruise, heated seats, put new MAFs on, new MPS4S all round, serviced it, replaced the broken strut and high level brake light, put on a Quicksilver exhaust, and fitted bluetooth, dashcam, active phone cradle. So about £8k!! BUT... can't beat it as a car. So special to look at and drive, for it's pricepoint there is nothing else that's such a complete package. It's my all time dream car and I can't believe I have one. It should be good for a while now anyway touch wood smile
No problem. smile Sorry about the de-coke paperwork not being with the history, I'd mis-filed it and only remembered it a while after I'd sold the car.

Unfortunately there was also no real way for me to include anything to say the brake fluid change HAD been done. (Not sure a photo of me on my driveway would have looked good in the history file!)

Not sure if you've had it done too, but I also got a specialist to do a full 4 wheel alignment in 2017, so the toe and camber should still be pretty spot on assuming its not had any big knocks.

Really pleased it's found an owner like you and is getting looked after. The improvements you've made are excellent and have brought it up to the spec it deserved.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

300 posts

15 months

Tuesday 12th February
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Changing my own fluid I manually fill in the info in the 'brake fluid' stamps section, and include the brake fluid invoice in the service history - V5 address & fluid invoice address so it's not clearly completely unbelievable. This is a £5k 986 not a £40k R8 though. laughlaugh

Krikkit

14,129 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th February
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If ever there's an example of how a service history doesn't always tell the whole story that's it!

Shame for the OP in this case with the plinth, that's shockingly poor... Who even does that on a car worth a couple of grand, never mind 911 money?

Filibuster

1,135 posts

153 months

Tuesday 12th February
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What a great thread this has turned into! This is a prime example of why I love PH!

On the subject proofing SH: I DIY a lot of stuff on my 200k miles 997.1 C2. I keep all the invoices of every part and fluid (except fuel und washer fluid), do hundreds of photographs and store everything in a folder on my server. Also I have started an Excel sheet with all the maintenance work I do. And I do stamp the service booklet to. Being an architect I use an "ARCHITECT" stamp everyday and that is what I stamp the service book with wink