The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

The Collecting Cars Porsche thread…

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birdcage

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2,842 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Some of these cars are covered off in other threads but given the amount of interesting stuff going through Collecting Cars I thought it would be good if anyone could offer advice, there's been a couple of cars I've been interested in buying and the advice here is pretty strong!

Will start with these two:

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-9...

What we say is a good price, is it a good buy?

And this one, bit of a 'bitsa' but any redeeming features for the money?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1992-porsche-9...


shantybeater

1,194 posts

170 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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I bid up to £50,500~ inc fees on the high mileage GT3, that’s my limit. Good comfort gt3’s with low miles start at 68k~ so for me the gap wasn’t worth it any smaller

Probably go mid 50’s?

Impressed with how strong the market remains...

Edited by shantybeater on Saturday 31st October 19:44

WojaWabbit

1,112 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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birdcage said:
And this one, bit of a 'bitsa' but any redeeming features for the money?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1992-porsche-9...
With asking prices of non-CS RS being north of £150k, I'm surprised this one is lingering around at less than half that, albeit with 24hrs still to run. Does the lack of originality really matter so much? I'd have thought the modifications would make it more desirable as a tool to spank around a track all day.


Cheib

23,312 posts

176 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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That 964 has been used as it’s maker intended...unfortunately all the 964 RS’s that sell for £150k plus are original panel OEM spec cars...and original paint too if you want to get close to £200k for them.

Without it’s matching numbers engine, magnesium cup wheels etc it’s a great track car for someone and I suppose it’s up against more modern GT3’s. Be interesting to see what it sells for !

IMI A

9,418 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Cheib said:
That 964 has been used as it’s maker intended...unfortunately all the 964 RS’s that sell for £150k plus are original panel OEM spec cars...and original paint too if you want to get close to £200k for them.

Without it’s matching numbers engine, magnesium cup wheels etc it’s a great track car for someone and I suppose it’s up against more modern GT3’s. Be interesting to see what it sells for !
Still made £117k inc commissions. Thats top money considering history/LHD but worth every penny imo.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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IMI A said:
Still made £117k inc commissions. Thats top money considering history/LHD but worth every penny imo.
when 997 GT3 is £70k imo it makes cars like this look very expensive.

IMI A

9,418 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Porsche911R said:
IMI A said:
Still made £117k inc commissions. Thats top money considering history/LHD but worth every penny imo.
when 997 GT3 is £70k imo it makes cars like this look very expensive.
I know of crashed ones rebuilt by 9m and others where vendors asking between 200-250k. Crazy I agree but I feel if I wanted a new car today I'd build my own and it would maybe cost me even more than this. The new stuff doesn't hold a candle to that yellow RS and its a fantastic base to do something amazing..

D.no

706 posts

213 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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Porsche911R said:
when 997 GT3 is £70k imo it makes cars like this look very expensive.
....Or 997 GT3's look under priced. biggrin

Cheib

23,312 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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This will be very interesting and CC is an interesting “venue” to sell a car like this. Very original 2.7 RS which was sold my Maxted Page a couple of years ago for pretty big money....it’s been for sale for circa £750k I think so will be their most expensive sale if it goes through. Not a car to buy unless you’ve had it inspected by someone who really, really knows what they are looking at.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1973-porsche-9...

Cheib

23,312 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Koln-RS said:
It remember when the 2.7RS was hugely revered, but these days, sales seem to be a bit flat.

It’s a nice, original example, with interesting history.
But, I’m presuming but no more than £500k.

The lovely green one failed to sell at less than that a couple of weeks ago.
Chartreuse car that sold after the auction closed a couple of weeks ago was a Touring with Lightweight bits. The cars that get the best prices as per any Porsche are the ones that are as they left the factory...even more so with an RS.

I think this car will get bid to a lot more than £500k whether it sells is another matter.

shantybeater

1,194 posts

170 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Two days left on this GT3 CS, what do we think it will go for? In comparison the 160k miler sold for £51k inc. fees

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-9...

dopsonj

315 posts

121 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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shantybeater said:
Two days left on this GT3 CS, what do we think it will go for? In comparison the 160k miler sold for £51k inc. fees

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-9...
Previous sold for £67310 inc fees, now has OPC warranty, new disks & pads up front and a splitter to boot... Believe GTSJoe is owner, I'd be wanting at least what I paid for it back...!

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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shantybeater said:
Two days left on this GT3 CS, what do we think it will go for? In comparison the 160k miler sold for £51k inc. fees

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-9...
It sold for £63.5 + fees back in June, so perhaps a couple Ks less? 997s prices all over the place so could be anything.

Looks like a very nice car.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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D.no said:
Porsche911R said:
when 997 GT3 is £70k imo it makes cars like this look very expensive.
....Or 997 GT3's look under priced. biggrin
No kidding! Just look at the complete dross people buy new for that kind of money.

bigmowley

1,904 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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BrotherMouzone said:
shantybeater said:
Two days left on this GT3 CS, what do we think it will go for? In comparison the 160k miler sold for £51k inc. fees

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-porsche-9...
It sold for £63.5 + fees back in June, so perhaps a couple Ks less? 997s prices all over the place so could be anything.

Looks like a very nice car.
Or quite a bit more it’s got a full Porsche warranty on it now, didn’t have that back in June.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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bigmowley said:
Or quite a bit more it’s got a full Porsche warranty on it now, didn’t have that back in June.
It was over bid last time, but now has had £6k work, so time will tell I guess in 9 hours.

Mitch911

227 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Porsche911R said:
It was over bid last time, but now has had £6k work, so time will tell I guess in 9 hours.
Is the market wrong when it contradicts The PH Oracle?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Mitch911 said:
Is the market wrong when it contradicts The PH Oracle?
As I said in 9 hours will will see, it's harder to call as it now has had a £6k spend on the car which boosts confidence in the car also being though an OPC.

The car stands the seller at £73,200.

So to answer your question , yes it was over bid on and the seller won't get his money back imho, one sale don't make the market.

I will be happy to carry on the chat when we see the sale price tonight and it will be interesting your aggressive "to me" take on it then.

shantybeater

1,194 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Where do you see it ending at 911R?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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shantybeater said:
Where do you see it ending at 911R?
cannot call it, won't be shocked at £59k won't be shocked at £66k.
personal value £62k.

all plus fee's

the last GT3 sold for £51k a comfort with 60k miles.