Collecting cars 964RS

Collecting cars 964RS

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LaurasOtherHalf

19,609 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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Orangecurry said:
Apologies - I should have been clearer - I read through the pros/cons of the various versions of the Megane, but remained puzzled - did you choose the R26R because it is the best for the track?

So why not the 250 Cup?

The 265 Trophy?

etc etc

what is it about the R26R?

Edited by Orangecurry on Tuesday 23 February 20:53
Sorry I get what you mean now! I chose the R26.R because it was brand new at the time and the others didn't exist! There is no denying the 250 and subsequent versions had some small improvements, mainly to the gearbox internals that could show up as a weakness on the R26/.R model line.

Personally, and this is from a lot of experience (multiple hundreds of 'ring laps in them if not 1000+) the R26.R is the one to have. It's without a doubt the most special feeling despite the ones after being much more expensive.

In all that time we only had one trackday ending failure which was a clutch slave cylinder going. This was on a car that was either driven on or to track-no in-between! Think it was when it was around six years old.

Everything else was just routine servicing. I think I used to do a set of front pads every 2 or 3 sets of front tyres and a set of discs every 2 sets of pads. I never strayed from standard Renault stuff-it was cheap as chips anyways.

For all Renaults have a bad rep they were ridiculously reliable, I honestly struggle to remember anything other than flat out driving and fun.

I put on 16k in the first year of mine.


Orangecurry

6,793 posts

170 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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Thanks - understood. So; greater than the sum of it's parts.

And all those miles on t'Ring cloud9

Apologies for thread derailment.

LaurasOtherHalf

19,609 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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Yes sorry for the thread deviation, I can bore people’s socks off about these cars!

stuttgartmetal

8,026 posts

180 months

Tuesday 23rd February
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Orangecurry said:
Apologies - I should have been clearer - I read through the pros/cons of the various versions of the Megane, but remained puzzled - did you choose the R26R because it is the best for the track?

So why not the 250 Cup?

The 265 Trophy?

etc etc

what is it about the R26R?

Edited by Orangecurry on Tuesday 23 February 20:53
Oh dreary dreary me.


Orangecurry

6,793 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th February
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stuttgartmetal said:
Oh dreary dreary me.
What? You don't like French fun?

Cheib

20,169 posts

139 months

Wednesday 24th February
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Common as much these Fly Yellow 964 RS’s although this one is Eur 300k !

https://www.elferspot.com/de/fahrzeug/porsche-964-...


GT3Manthey

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723 posts

13 months

Wednesday 24th February
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RSVP911 said:
Hi GT3Manthey, no worries - free forum, you’re absolutely free to do as you wish, but thanks for the offer.

Not really sure why I was trying to keep it low key and private TBH - maybe a bit embarrassed as I’d posted so much on here about finding a 964RS and now I’m selling, plus genuinely being in two minds about what I’m doing as I’m pretty sure I’m going to regret it. Lastly not wanting to feel like I was talking up the car I guess as anything I say about it will be treated with understandable scepticism I guess.

Either way , no worries whatsoever smile
Ok cool,
hope she reaches a great number

GT3Manthey

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723 posts

13 months

Wednesday 24th February
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Yes sorry for the thread deviation, I can bore people’s socks off about these cars!
Its ok , i may have started the thread about the 964RS but its a car forum and we all get carried away with general car chatter.

Plus, the R26R is a cracking bit of kit so i'm all ears with more details as i cant honestly say i know enough about my car just yet.

Obviously hoping for a few track days this year.

The Wookie

12,547 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th February
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Dimebars said:
I saw a post on Faceache the other day with mid-2000 magazine ads from Paragon and similar

964RS's were £25-30k at that point rotate

Oh for a crystal ball or a De Lorean
A mate of mine who is a Porsche nut bought his mint green 964RS NGT for about 30k probably getting on for 15 years ago and with the intention of using as a track day toy

He's done well out of it!

On the other hand one of my extended family sold his 1973 2.7RS at a similar time, we all thought he'd done well at getting 170k for it considering he'd only paid about 10 grand back in the 80's. Still, he bought a pair of 993RS's with the proceeds, one clubsport and one touring, for about 30k a piece so he's not crying too much!

GT3Manthey

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723 posts

13 months

Wednesday 24th February
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The Wookie said:
A mate of mine who is a Porsche nut bought his mint green 964RS NGT for about 30k probably getting on for 15 years ago and with the intention of using as a track day toy

He's done well out of it!

On the other hand one of my extended family sold his 1973 2.7RS at a similar time, we all thought he'd done well at getting 170k for it considering he'd only paid about 10 grand back in the 80's. Still, he bought a pair of 993RS's with the proceeds, one clubsport and one touring, for about 30k a piece so he's not crying too much!
I dithered soooo much back in those days !

I really have no clue as to where the prices go from here but then i'm not in a position to go lumping in now anyway so dilemma solved !

boxsey

3,496 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th February
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
It was a Giallo Fly 964RS that actually led me to PistonHeads all those years ago. I was at Oulton Park and someone had one there on a track day, Speedline 3 piece wheels with colour coded centres and a matching yellow Blaupunkt radio.

I don't even recall what I was driving back then, maybe a 350Z and after going out as a passenger I was totally hooked. I joined PH to try and find a decent one but they were already creeping up in value back then (maybe 2008?), every time I found a good one (there were so many rough ones) it was about £5k above the bottom of the market and I couldn't afford it.
That was Kevin (Asbi on PH). He had it a long time and loved driving it on track...we used to use them back then! I was amazed when he sold it a few years ago (went to a collector IIRC). Never thought I'd see that day. But Kevin's got a 964 cup now so is still smiling. smile


Edited by boxsey on Wednesday 24th February 11:23

RSVP911

7,812 posts

97 months

Wednesday 24th February
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GT3Manthey said:
RSVP911 said:
Hi GT3Manthey, no worries - free forum, you’re absolutely free to do as you wish, but thanks for the offer.

Not really sure why I was trying to keep it low key and private TBH - maybe a bit embarrassed as I’d posted so much on here about finding a 964RS and now I’m selling, plus genuinely being in two minds about what I’m doing as I’m pretty sure I’m going to regret it. Lastly not wanting to feel like I was talking up the car I guess as anything I say about it will be treated with understandable scepticism I guess.

Either way , no worries whatsoever smile
Ok cool,
hope she reaches a great number
Thanks - judging by the link Chieb has posted it should do ok - especially now the post Brexit import costs are on top for that car. I’ll know by Sunday evening I guess smile

Orangecurry

6,793 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th February
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RSVP911 said:
I’ll know by Sunday evening I guess smile

seawise

1,825 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th February
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RSVP911 said:
Thanks - judging by the link Chieb has posted it should do ok - especially now the post Brexit import costs are on top for that car. I’ll know by Sunday evening I guess smile
i feel stressed watching it and i'm not the owner.... not sure my heart could take the auction process nor the sale to be honest. can we fast forward to Sunday please ?

RSVP911

7,812 posts

97 months

Wednesday 24th February
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seawise said:
RSVP911 said:
Thanks - judging by the link Chieb has posted it should do ok - especially now the post Brexit import costs are on top for that car. I’ll know by Sunday evening I guess smile
i feel stressed watching it and i'm not the owner.... not sure my heart could take the auction process nor the sale to be honest. can we fast forward to Sunday please ?
You’re stressed ! I should sell tickets to a zoom call where you can watch me implode and melt down all at once smile

GT3Manthey

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723 posts

13 months

Wednesday 24th February
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Superb cars, my best mate's very nice one is coming on Collecting Cars this week.
Just spotted the car ..... https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2009-renaultsp...
Looks a very fine example.

Upgraded the front brakes from standard with two piece disks ?

Make a a healthy difference would you say ?

BrotherMouzone

2,674 posts

138 months

Wednesday 24th February
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GT3Manthey said:
Just spotted the car ..... https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2009-renaultsp...
Looks a very fine example.

Upgraded the front brakes from standard with two piece disks ?

Make a a healthy difference would you say ?
Ultra rare colour, form memory only about 4-6 in the UK? I know a PHer wrote off his Nimbus Grey a few years ago.

seawise

1,825 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th February
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RSVP911 said:
You’re stressed ! I should sell tickets to a zoom call where you can watch me implode and melt down all at once smile
ha ha - at least you hold on to the car until the buyer's money is in the bank and you set a reserve at what you are happy to receive. for todays environment it's a good forum for selling a car. but stress free it ain't !

thelostboy

4,024 posts

189 months

Wednesday 24th February
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Dimebars said:
I saw a post on Faceache the other day with mid-2000 magazine ads from Paragon and similar

964RS's were £25-30k at that point rotate

Oh for a crystal ball or a De Lorean
That was me!

My missus bought me some old Porsche mags as a pressie. I do remember you could buy a 964 RS in the twenties though; the images I posted was when they were actually on the way up.

What's interesting is they weren't really any low mileage garage queens advertised (there were 7 cars advertised in that particular magazine). Yet, 15 years on, suddenly they're all mint, low mileage cars. I can't help feel a little cynical given how easy it is to unplug the odometer on them.

Back to the more important subject of fast Renaults, I've been in a R26.R at the track day and it was a similar drive to my 182 Trophy, just with more grip. I personally found myself happier back in the Clio, it was slower but more fun. I also wasn't a fan of the Megane's darth vader induction, compared to the Clio's naturally aspirated intake noise.

Cheib

20,169 posts

139 months

Wednesday 24th February
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thelostboy said:
What's interesting is they weren't really any low mileage garage queens advertised (there were 7 cars advertised in that particular magazine). Yet, 15 years on, suddenly they're all mint, low mileage cars. I can't help feel a little cynical given how easy it is to unplug the odometer on them.
That’s why people are obsessed with cars being original panel and paint with 964 RS’s as it’s your best shot at it not having been in an armco....nice thing about RSVP’s car is that it isn’t low mileage and is still original panel and paint so it’s been looked after and I would say probably never seen a track judging by the paint which i have seen.

I’ve seen some 964 RS’s which are original paint but they’re at the stage where the paint is so bad that you just need to get on and paint the bloody thing. RPM (who I have a lot of time for) had one for sale on SoR last year which whilst it was original paint was in a shocking state...clearly done a lot of track miles. In the case of this car it’s great that it’s original paint but it needs sorting with a proper record of the restoration to show why the paint was done. Wasn’t a cheap car either.