Taycan 4S Cross Turismo

[CloudStuff]

Not a CT, but an unregistered (presume cancelled order), ST is available on the Porsche site:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

[_speedyellow_]

I placed my ST order in May and whist my circumstances haven't changed much I am in two minds as to what I do, I will be attending the PEC at Silverstone this month too.

I've only ordered a Taycan ST and the spec was fairly basic but still once added 20" wheels/Performance Battery/sunroof/folding mirrors 2+1 seat and Crayon plus some other options its over £90k.
I wanted to stick £15-20k in as a deposit but been warned the residuals although amongst the best in the market I will not see more than £10k back but I don't want to spend silly money per month as in 3 years I will need to renew the mortgage and the affordability tests are pretty rigid, Im getting towards 60!

Has anyone seen the finance quotes lately - just wondered what the APR's were now on the PF PCP..

I take it that if I put my order in and finalise my spec that I will lose the £5k deposit, I am kinda thinking of asking them to push me back in queue so I can see what happens with all the doom and gloom the BoE and press keep telling us about..

[Blue62]

_speedyellow_ said:

I placed my ST order in May and whist my circumstances haven't changed much I am in two minds as to what I do, I will be attending the PEC at Silverstone this month too.

I've only ordered a Taycan ST and the spec was fairly basic but still once added 20" wheels/Performance Battery/sunroof/folding mirrors 2+1 seat and Crayon plus some other options its over £90k.
I wanted to stick £15-20k in as a deposit but been warned the residuals although amongst the best in the market I will not see more than £10k back but I don't want to spend silly money per month as in 3 years I will need to renew the mortgage and the affordability tests are pretty rigid, Im getting towards 60!

Has anyone seen the finance quotes lately - just wondered what the APR's were now on the PF PCP..

I take it that if I put my order in and finalise my spec that I will lose the £5k deposit, I am kinda thinking of asking them to push me back in queue so I can see what happens with all the doom and gloom the BoE and press keep telling us about..

I imagine the APR’s are only moving in one direction, you can shop around though and may find a better deal than VWFS can offer, but I suspect it will be marginal. I wouldn’t want to advise anyone, not my place but if you have concerns remember that it’s only a car, a bloody good one though! I’m pretty sure they can’t withhold your deposit, even after you’ve locked your build, but worth confirming and I think you’ll still find that dealers are still putting big premiums on their demonstrators, which is probably the best barometer of where the markets at. Do the PEC whatever though, it’s not a bad day out.

[londonlaw]

Any idea when the MY24 will be on the road?
with the new front fascia, upgrade battery etc etc as on various spyphotos.

Have an upcoming lock in date for expected June'23 delivery, CT4, but seems sensible to delay few months if MY24 launches sept'23.

[DMZ]

Please tell me the fangs are gone on the facelift

[londonlaw]

DMZ said:

Please tell me the fangs are gone on the facelift

pics are widely available.
More relevant question is when MY24 is due.

[Ken Figenus]

londonlaw said:

pics are widely available.
More relevant question is when MY24 is due.

Mine was MY 22 and built Sept 2021 when everyone was back in the factory after the Aug shutdown...

[E902717]

CloudStuff said:

Not a CT, but an unregistered (presume cancelled order), ST is available on the Porsche site:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

It’s been in the showroom since July.

My CT Turbo is in Wolverhampton tomorrow due to the heater breaking. I will see what’s been put in its place.

[Sport_Turismo_GTS]

Finally got confirmation of a build slot for my Taycan ST GTS, for which I placed a deposit on launch day, around one year ago. Delivery should be Q1 2023.

Only negative is that Bose or Burmeister upgrades are likely to be unavailable, so it will be base sound system only - anyone on here spent much time with / without Bose to highlight the extent of the differences?

[Ken Figenus]

Just got note my ST is happening too. No issue on Bose fitment noted. If you do get base system spend £2k at a good audio shop and blow the Bose away onto the weeds - it's pretty cr@pl in my 4S CT.

Is Matrix headlights std on GTS as no option there either?

[W12GT]

I picked up my new 4S ST this morning. I was told that due to supply issues no new Porsches are going to be fitted with electric steering adjustment for some time, also there are some cars waiting at dealers to have Bose subs and/or amps retro fitted.

Initial thoughts from the return journey are that it’s a cracking car and a big step up from the RWD I px’d.

[Murph7355]

Ken Figenus said:

Just got note my ST is happening too. No issue on Bose fitment noted. If you do get base system spend £2k at a good audio shop and blow the Bose away onto the weeds - it's pretty cr@pl in my 4S CT.

Is Matrix headlights std on GTS as no option there either?

Yes, matrix lights are std on a GTS.

[DMC2]

I'm three months into my CT 4S ownership and I bloody love it. Definitely the best everyday car I've owned. It's just so quiet and relaxing to drive, then an animal if you want it to be. Boot is bloody handy too.

The softer setup is perfect for our roads, and the car is transformed with rear wheel steer which my older car didn't have.

I had the option to swap for a GTS ST but I didn't want to risk loosing the ride quality.

[Blue62]

W12GT said:

I picked up my new 4S ST this morning. I was told that due to supply issues no new Porsches are going to be fitted with electric steering adjustment for some time, also there are some cars waiting at dealers to have Bose subs and/or amps retro fitted.

Initial thoughts from the return journey are that it’s a cracking car and a big step up from the RWD I px’d.

I’m a few months into my 4S and like the mix of comfort and performance, it’s a very good car but let down somewhat by the capricious PCM, it’s always a bated breath moment when I get in the car. I’ve noticed the range dropping now the winters setting in, less than 100 miles yesterday with 55% SOC so I’m hoping the update, booked in for next week, will improve matters. My dealer hinted that there’s another significant update coming next year, but wouldn’t be drawn further, anyone else heard anything?

[Digga]

DMC2 said:

I'm three months into my CT 4S ownership and I bloody love it. Definitely the best everyday car I've owned. It's just so quiet and relaxing to drive, then an animal if you want it to be. Boot is bloody handy too.

The softer setup is perfect for our roads, and the car is transformed with rear wheel steer which my older car didn't have.

I had the option to swap for a GTS ST but I didn't want to risk loosing the ride quality.

One thing with the ST is, that for those who occasionally use the off road TC modes on their CT, the ST does not have this, or air ride. Only the latter can be added as an option on the ST.

For me, the CT is still the perfect daily.

[phib]

DMC2 said:

I'm three months into my CT 4S ownership and I bloody love it. Definitely the best everyday car I've owned. It's just so quiet and relaxing to drive, then an animal if you want it to be. Boot is bloody handy too.

The softer setup is perfect for our roads, and the car is transformed with rear wheel steer which my older car didn't have.

I had the option to swap for a GTS ST but I didn't want to risk loosing the ride quality.

Interesting, I have a 4 dr Turbo at the moment and just about to order another one, cant decide between the Turbo ST or just another Turbo.

Did you have a 4dr before teh CT and if you did is there any difference in the drive ?

Thanks

Phib

[DMC2]

phib said:

Interesting, I have a 4 dr Turbo at the moment and just about to order another one, cant decide between the Turbo ST or just another Turbo.

Did you have a 4dr before teh CT and if you did is there any difference in the drive ?

Thanks

Phib

I previously had a high spec 4S saloon and the softer suspension setup of the CT is a definite improvement. Slightly more roll, but that just works better on our roads. If the GTS is stiffer than the CT I wouldn’t change as I think it is the perfect setup for everyday use.

[CloudStuff]

Digga said:

DMC2 said:

I'm three months into my CT 4S ownership and I bloody love it. Definitely the best everyday car I've owned. It's just so quiet and relaxing to drive, then an animal if you want it to be. Boot is bloody handy too.

The softer setup is perfect for our roads, and the car is transformed with rear wheel steer which my older car didn't have.

I had the option to swap for a GTS ST but I didn't want to risk loosing the ride quality.

One thing with the ST is, that for those who occasionally use the off road TC modes on their CT, the ST does not have this, or air ride. Only the latter can be added as an option on the ST.

For me, the CT is still the perfect daily.

I agree, the best cars I've owned are:

1 - .2 CS GT3
2 - Turbo CT - will all the chassis / drivetrain kit. Get ticking.
3 - 991.1 GTS
4 - Audi S1
+ the rest (caymans, loads of Audi RS stuff

[Digga]

CloudStuff said:

Digga said:

DMC2 said:

I'm three months into my CT 4S ownership and I bloody love it. Definitely the best everyday car I've owned. It's just so quiet and relaxing to drive, then an animal if you want it to be. Boot is bloody handy too.

The softer setup is perfect for our roads, and the car is transformed with rear wheel steer which my older car didn't have.

I had the option to swap for a GTS ST but I didn't want to risk loosing the ride quality.

One thing with the ST is, that for those who occasionally use the off road TC modes on their CT, the ST does not have this, or air ride. Only the latter can be added as an option on the ST.

For me, the CT is still the perfect daily.

I agree, the best cars I've owned are:

1 - .2 CS GT3
2 - Turbo CT - will all the chassis / drivetrain kit. Get ticking.
3 - 991.1 GTS
4 - Audi S1
+ the rest (caymans, loads of Audi RS stuff

My favourite daily drives:

Back in the day, 4.6 Vogue P38 Range Rover. There is nothing quite like it.
110 Defender. every drive was a fun event. I mean every single time I drove it it made me smile and loads of passers by and pedestrians too.
Driven a few Lexus saloons. GS300, LS400 Mk1 & 2 and they waft beautifully, buck lack an estate/hatch.

Worst:
I had an Audi A6 3l TDI Le Mans edition way back. It should have been a great daily, but ride was rock hard and NVH was, as a result, disappointing.

[Ken Figenus]

DMC2 said:

I previously had a high spec 4S saloon and the softer suspension setup of the CT is a definite improvement. Slightly more roll, but that just works better on our roads. If the GTS is stiffer than the CT I wouldn’t change as I think it is the perfect setup for everyday use.

Zero roll with PDCC - I love it (active anti roll bars and arguably better straight ahead ride due to less resistance to minor bumps).

I'd hope my incoming GTS isn't much stiffer - lower yes - but am speccing PDCC and 20" as a compromise to range and ride. The air sus in Porsches in std mode is pretty spectac, then firm up the active dampers for harder use etc... Hoping to get a test drive in a non pdcc GTS ST before final lock this month.