best porsche for 15k

best porsche for 15k

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jimmy p

960 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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987.1 2.7 or 987.2 2.9.

Most reliable engines, 3 4 987.2 would also qualify however within your budget would likely be high mileage.

Orangecurry

7,496 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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CanAm said:
jonny996 said:
ATM said:
Something has to be wrong with that car. 69K miles & £15K....Although the seat & wheel look like a lot more than 69K
A six year gap in the MOTs from 2015, and less than 100 miles added on the clock in those 8 years. I'd like to hear the story behind this.
I'd say it's sat around - possibly due to being an unloved 4th car, but as the tyres in the 2015 MOT were noted as being cracked and perishing, and the front tyres in the photo are datestamped 2006, I'm thinking it stacks up.

Are front seats hardbacks? - don't these suffer more wear from bodies in-out?

Also; do you remember that pandemic thing?

My concern would be lack of use on the various mechanicals.

CanAm

9,869 posts

278 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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Orangecurry said:
I'd say it's sat around - possibly due to being an unloved 4th car, but as the tyres in the 2015 MOT were noted as being cracked and perishing, and the front tyres in the photo are datestamped 2006, I'm thinking it stacks up.

Are front seats hardbacks? - don't these suffer more wear from bodies in-out?

Also; do you remember that pandemic thing?

My concern would be lack of use on the various mechanicals.
Pandemic? I still managed to get some miles on my second car quite legitimately. I agree with you on the lack of use, and that would be my worry, rather than it having had a haircut.

stuckmojo

3,179 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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I'd definitely buy that, budget £2k for a refresh and enjoy it.

Very few early 3.4 C2 manual for sale.

I stored mine for nearly 10 years when I lived abroad so I'm speaking from experience.

I think it's a bargain. If I had space I'd buy it myself

CoolHands

19,250 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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Damn that looks great! Not one pic of the engine though frown bad dealer

youngsyr

14,742 posts

198 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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stuckmojo said:
I'd definitely buy that, budget £2k for a refresh and enjoy it.

Very few early 3.4 C2 manual for sale.

I stored mine for nearly 10 years when I lived abroad so I'm speaking from experience.

I think it's a bargain. If I had space I'd buy it myself
911s do tend to get stored more than your run of the mill cars. My previous 996 spent a few years in storage before being sold to me. Owner spent most of his time in the Carrabean. 911 was for when he was in the UK.

marky911

4,427 posts

225 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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Anything after ‘09 with the DFi engines.



Omar-p25l8

98 posts

63 months

Wednesday 4th September
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resurrecting this thread - as I am also looking for an answer to this!

Has to be automatic and will be used as my Monday - Friday car (12 mile round trip each day).

paulguitar

25,732 posts

119 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Omar-p25l8 said:
resurrecting this thread - as I am also looking for an answer to this!

Has to be automatic and will be used as my Monday - Friday car (12 mile round trip each day).
987.2 Cayman or Boxster 2.9 PDK.



CanAm

9,869 posts

278 months

Wednesday 4th September
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paulguitar said:
Omar-p25l8 said:
resurrecting this thread - as I am also looking for an answer to this!

Has to be automatic and will be used as my Monday - Friday car (12 mile round trip each day).
987.2 Cayman or Boxster 2.9 PDK.
And there is a 2009 3.4 Boxster S on PH for £15,000! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17018123

Omar-p25l8

98 posts

63 months

Wednesday 4th September
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paulguitar said:
987.2 Cayman or Boxster 2.9 PDK.
Thank you!

jonny996

2,633 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th September
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CanAm said:
And there is a 2009 3.4 Boxster S on PH for £15,000! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17018123
Are the road tax on these not horrendous?

paulguitar

25,732 posts

119 months

Thursday 5th September
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jonny996 said:
CanAm said:
And there is a 2009 3.4 Boxster S on PH for £15,000! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17018123
Are the road tax on these not horrendous?
£415.

CanAm

9,869 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th September
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jonny996 said:
CanAm said:
And there is a 2009 3.4 Boxster S on PH for £15,000! https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/17018123
Are the road tax on these not horrendous?
Expensive, but not horrendous. How much will a £15,000 Eurobox depreciate in 12 months compared with a 987?

maz8062

2,524 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th September
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Out of left field, borescored 911. You can get them for as low as £10k without symptoms other than streaks on the cylinders. Look after it, drive it, fix it if you want or sell it when you’re done.

jonny996

2,633 posts

223 months

Saturday 7th September
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

The last couple of posts have been discussing a £12.5K 996 with only minor issues

Kingdom35

1,003 posts

91 months

Monday 9th September
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Watching this thread with interest.
What are peoples thoughts on the whole Bore score/IMS possibilities? I did read somewhere it affects just 5% of cars.
How realistic is it to carry out a bore score test before purchasing?

ATM

18,832 posts

225 months

Monday 9th September
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Kingdom35 said:
Watching this thread with interest.
What are peoples thoughts on the whole Bore score/IMS possibilities? I did read somewhere it affects just 5% of cars.
How realistic is it to carry out a bore score test before purchasing?
This has been discussed to death. I for one have typed out many many replies with the same information over and over again. And the replies always follow a similar theme. Some think it's not a problem. Some think it is. You will have to decide for yourself.

Hartech are a well respected outfit who rebuild these engines and make them better than they were originally. They employ several people and this is all they do. So you need to ask yourself - if a business like this can sustain several employees, you can decide on the number, then how many engines is it getting through every week. And does this lead you to believe it's a rare event or more common.

When these cars first started showing up problems most were covered by warranty. So Porsche was probably changing a number of engines FOC. Data from this time is largely lost because most owners do not know if Porsche changed their engine prior to them purchasing their car. Most dealers nowadays destroy a car's history file over GDPR fears. Although I've seen the odd advert where people talk about their car having had an engine replacement at Porsche and then a refurb at the likes of Hartech. So effectively on their 3rd engine. That's what makes me think its more common than people want to believe. But it's up to you.

Also worth mentioning that Porsche switched to 24 months or 20,000 miles service intervals around the time the 997 launched or just before - so 2003 / 2004. Due to pressure from governments to reduce the overall environmental impact of a car over its lifespan - which includes scheduled service intervals. Oils are better now but 20 years ago they were not as good as we have now. Could this have helped cause some of these problems too?


Mark-ri571

576 posts

113 months

Saturday 14th September
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maz8062

2,524 posts

221 months

Monday 16th September
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For sure Borescore is a problem with these cars, the cost to repair more so than the problem itself. The end game is piston slap, annoying, irritating and ever present, but it won’t affect the performance of the car nor will it right itself. It’ll have to be fixed sooner rather than later.

Hartech will cost near £20k to replace the liners on both banks, including all the “while you’re in there” incidentals - why folk just don’t replace the errant bores on bank 2 and save money escapes me. If the repair was nearer £10k , like rod bearings for the M cars, AMG’s engine repairs etc. This wouldn’t be as big a deal as it is. Yes Hartech are good at what they do but the car is 20 years old - will it survive another 20 years? Who knows but words such as “future proof” and “keeper” are just that, words, and it is a sure banker that’ll come resale a seller will lose all the £££££ spent on the rebuild and for the most part, buyers don’t care.

The cost of repair is the problem, and the more folk steer people to Hartech, claiming that they’re the only ones that can fix a 20 year old car, the more expensive it will get - simple demand and supply maths, monopoly etc.

That said, it is a problem and buyers should go in with their eyes wide open. The safest bet is to buy one with an engine rebuild and look after it. Jumping up to a .2 is a big leap in cash if you decide to go that route.