Slave Cylinder

Slave Cylinder

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Original Poster:

2,276 posts

164 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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Hi

I have my gearbox out and while I'm there I might install a raceproved slave.

Is it a big job?

Do I need any special tools?

Does the slave come with a bearing that presses on the clutch plate fingers? (Mine rattles when not in gear at idle)

Does anyone have some pics of a disassembled clutch and slave?

Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!

Best wishes
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scotty_d

6,795 posts

194 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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Wish i could have took a few pictures days ago. Mine was very easy to fit chapped the old one out and slipped the new one in, Comes as a complete unit just be careful of the seals when offering in to bell housing. Use a little red grease to fit and help the seals slip in.

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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No special tools.. Just lots of red grease.

Getting the old bolts out is the hardest part of it.

4 bolts in the bell housing to remove the slave.. Jobbed. Clean, grease, re-install RP jobbie. Just done mine. Yes it comes with the release bearing as well.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Fitted one a week and a half ago. Lovely bit of engineering. Also comes with larger socket head countersunk screws (the socket bit they take is larger, the screws are the same size), which should aide getting them out in future.

RichV6

383 posts

207 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Having just changed my standard slave seals I have a question to ask.
Do you have to remove the bell housing to remove the slave as a unit?
I removed the complete bell housing to help me remove the two lower slave cylinder screws as they were siezed solid. Assuming you can remove all four screws can the slave be removed and refitted?

Jhonno

5,774 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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RichV6 said:
Assuming you can remove all four screws can the slave be removed and refitted?
Yes.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Just to labour the point (since the professional who changed the seals on mine just before I bought got it wrong)...

Do not use ordinary multi-purpose grease or any other oil to lubricate the slave cylinder seals when assembling / installing.

Only use Red Rubber Grease. Anything else will dissolve the seals and you'll be back on the AA truck shortly afterwards.

aide

Original Poster:

2,276 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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I ordered the RP slave yesterday along with some red rubber grease.

Thanks everyone for your help!



mikeinsheffield

1,038 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Just had new clutch fitted (AP) and one of these RaceProved slave cylinders this week.... Sadly I'm not that mechanically competent so had it fitted at RaceProved (shame smiley)

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Original Poster:

2,276 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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How does the clutch feel with the rp slave?

mikeinsheffield

1,038 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Only been driving around town on various errands today (which I suppose is as tough a test as you'd like, particularly in Sheffield with hill starts a-plenty!!) and apart from the clutch biting point being a lot higher than it used to be (new clutch I s'pose) then it feels fine.

I had thought about a higher spec clutch, but I didn't want anything too "grabby" which would ruin the driveability of the car... so it's all fine for me.


Mr Cerbera

5,031 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Hi

I have my gearbox out and while I'm there I might install a raceproved slave.

>>>> I would recommend this

Is it a big job?
Do I need any special tools?

>>>> Compared to the Gearbox extraction, it is a piece of …..
>>>> Remove the RH Hydraulic Line to Slave.
>>>> Remove the Bellhousing.
(I would recommend removing the Starter Motor)
>>>> Remove the four Allen screws (Countersunk on original fitment)
>>>> Press the slave out.
>>>> Drift the Bore out of the Bellhousing.

Does the slave come with a bearing that presses on the clutch plate fingers? (Mine rattles when not in gear at idle)

>>>> I firmly believe in NOT overtightening the Slave-to-Fingers gap.
>>>> A lot of broken hands are created this way.
>>>> (Can be finalised at Master Cylinder pushrod adjustment stage).

>>>> The RP unit comes, ready assembled and Yes, it does press on the fingers

Does anyone have some pics of a disassembled clutch and slave?

>>>> I have enough photos to fill ‘The Cloud’. Here are a few to give you and idea.

Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated!

Bellhousing with original Slave (Exterior)



Bellhousing with original Slave (Interior)



Fingerless Pack



Bellhousing with Slave removed and Bore remaining (Interior)



Bellhousing with Slave removed and Bore remaining (Exterior)



Original Slave disassembled



RP and original slaves



RP Slave seal requiring lubrication



Slave Bore showing 0 / 180 Deg Bleed Holes



Drifting Slave Bore back in



New Clutch pack allighned



Pack with fake Slave
(Showing bearing rubbing surface on Fingers)



RP Slave assembled



Repositioning Gbox into remounted Bellhousing



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Edited by Mr Cerbera on Saturday 11th July 11:53

aide

Original Poster:

2,276 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Cheers for that Paul!
Greatly appreciated.
Sound
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RFC1

1,107 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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I dont even have a Cerbera, but posts like Mr Cerberas should be stickies i would have thought ??

Sandy.

350Matt

3,738 posts

279 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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chaps

one other thing which doesn't seem to be common knowledge but its quite possible to overstroke the clutch fingers if your pedal isn't set up with some sort of hard stop

as the pedal position is sometimes adjusted using the pushrod length you can have the situation where every pedal push is flexing the clutch fingers past their operating point and its this that leads to them breaking

fit some sort of hard stop under the carpet to give a solid stop and adjsut the pushrod so that the pedal at full stroke only just releases the clutch and this will greatly increase clutch finger life

Edited by 350Matt on Tuesday 20th August 12:59

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Original Poster:

2,276 posts

164 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Agreed.
Perhaps Big Al can stick it to the top?

My new raceproved slave went in on Sunday so many thanks to all!

Mr Cerbera

5,031 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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If you're listening, Big Al, hang on a day and I'll do the whole job.

Ta !

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ETA
Sorry Al,
please ignore my statement/ It appears that I don't have enough decent photos to 'do' the whole job.



Edited by Mr Cerbera on Friday 23 August 14:35

Mr Cerbera

5,031 posts

230 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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RFC1 said:
I dont even have a Cerbera, but posts like Mr Cerberas should be stickies i would have thought ??

Sandy.
Thanks Sandy thumbup
Took me a while
but
Done now biglaugh