Driverโ€™s door card wiring

Driverโ€™s door card wiring

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Byker28i

38,196 posts

189 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Right - Bogseye is a witch - burn him...

So I tried with some of the garden lighting cable thats been in place for 10 years

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Took about 15 mins - incredible - never knew that...

Penelope Stopit

8,949 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Byker28i said:
Right - Bogseye is a witch - burn him...

So I tried with some of the garden lighting cable thats been in place for 10 years

Before


After



Took about 15 mins - incredible - never knew that...
Great post

Seeing is believing

Would never have expected such a good result in 15 minutes

Penelope Stopit

8,949 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Bogsye said:
Penelope - Thanks - I'm sure the photo and lighting conditions flatter it. It beats the time as a teenager that I used the back of a snooker table to nail the loom of my AH-Sprite onto for it's update and refresh laugh
laugh

Not one crush-on connector in sight...............Nicesmile

Bogsye

319 posts

124 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Byker28i said:
Right - Bogseye is a witch - burn him...

So I tried with some of the garden lighting cable thats been in place for 10 years

Before


After



Took about 15 mins - incredible - never knew that...
Excellent - it's pretty effective. Its a good thing to do around the engine bay if you're replacing the Junior Power Timer connectors onto the coil packs.
Interestingly all the TVR electrical schematics have an isntruction for the ends to be tinned. I doubt any of mine were done.

I did notice that it's possible to buy tinned wire. It's more often used for marine applications. I decided to go with regular wire and tin the ends, but perhaps for door looms it could be a sensible application given they are pretty damp inside.

Edited by Bogsye on Wednesday 16th June 15:41

Bogsye

319 posts

124 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Penelope Stopit said:
laugh

Not one crush-on connector in sight...............Nicesmile
I admit I cringe when I see crush on connectors or those scotchblock things - it's a certaintly that electrical mayhem is just round the corner eek

I think it's easy to underestimate what a horrible damp environment the door shells are by the time rainwater drips through them. Anything less than perfect is going to have a pretty short shelflife.

Penelope Stopit

8,949 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Bogsye said:
Penelope Stopit said:
laugh

Not one crush-on connector in sight...............Nicesmile
I admit I cringe when I see crush on connectors or those scotchblock things - it's a certaintly that electrical mayhem is just round the corner eek

I think it's easy to underestimate what a horrible damp environment the door shells are by the time rainwater drips through them. Anything less than perfect is going to have a pretty short shelflife.
We are 2 of a kind then

I know it's none of my business but I'll pop the question anyway, only out of interest. Have you thought about keeping all the measurements of the looms and perhaps doing a run of them to sell on to others, especially as you've allowed for adding relays

Have made many enemies at PH and other forums by knocking people that use crush-ons.....Such is life

Bogsye

319 posts

124 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Penelope Stopit said:
We are 2 of a kind then

I know it's none of my business but I'll pop the question anyway, only out of interest. Have you thought about keeping all the measurements of the looms and perhaps doing a run of them to sell on to others, especially as you've allowed for adding relays

Have made many enemies at PH and other forums by knocking people that use crush-ons.....Such is life
In fairness, I've used cheap rubbish connectors in the past - My Morris 1000 project that I did in the 90's as a spotty yoof. It probably had a few, and looking back it was my lack of experience, and of course we didn't have the internet to research and buy stuff. I probably educated myself on a diet of Car Mechanics and Practical Classics. I've have made my fair share of school boy errors along the way.

I did actually think about running up some looms, but I was concerned they'd actually be quite expensive by the time manual labour was applied, and of course the fluid nature of TVR's specifications made me worried it could be fraught with trouble.

The costs weren't too bad
A reel of white wire, black wire by the metre, loom tape, a selection of Superseal connectors were about £120
Fresh Land Rover/Britpart grommets for the doors were about £7.00/side off eBay
New terminals from one of the TVR parts places for the mirror control box were a few quid - perhaps £18

I already had the automatic crimpers for terminals, but those weren't too expensive.
Quite a few tie-wraps to hold the basic loom in shape

On the plus side the freely available TVR wiring schematics do have dimensions on them which were quite good for estimating purposes to buy materials. Given their poor resolution it took a bit of detective work to mark those up to the correct wire colours.

I can't remember if I kept the old wiring looms? I might still have those buried deep in the garage. Might be a useful reference I suppose. I must have a look. Up to my neck in refreshing my old Audi S8 (D2) at the moment, but I'll have a look around.

Brian

Penelope Stopit

8,949 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th June
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Bogsye said:
Penelope Stopit said:
We are 2 of a kind then

I know it's none of my business but I'll pop the question anyway, only out of interest. Have you thought about keeping all the measurements of the looms and perhaps doing a run of them to sell on to others, especially as you've allowed for adding relays

Have made many enemies at PH and other forums by knocking people that use crush-ons.....Such is life
In fairness, I've used cheap rubbish connectors in the past - My Morris 1000 project that I did in the 90's as a spotty yoof. It probably had a few, and looking back it was my lack of experience, and of course we didn't have the internet to research and buy stuff. I probably educated myself on a diet of Car Mechanics and Practical Classics. I've have made my fair share of school boy errors along the way.

I did actually think about running up some looms, but I was concerned they'd actually be quite expensive by the time manual labour was applied, and of course the fluid nature of TVR's specifications made me worried it could be fraught with trouble.

The costs weren't too bad
A reel of white wire, black wire by the metre, loom tape, a selection of Superseal connectors were about £120
Fresh Land Rover/Britpart grommets for the doors were about £7.00/side off eBay
New terminals from one of the TVR parts places for the mirror control box were a few quid - perhaps £18

I already had the automatic crimpers for terminals, but those weren't too expensive.
Quite a few tie-wraps to hold the basic loom in shape

On the plus side the freely available TVR wiring schematics do have dimensions on them which were quite good for estimating purposes to buy materials. Given their poor resolution it took a bit of detective work to mark those up to the correct wire colours.

I can't remember if I kept the old wiring looms? I might still have those buried deep in the garage. Might be a useful reference I suppose. I must have a look. Up to my neck in refreshing my old Audi S8 (D2) at the moment, but I'll have a look around.

Brian
Enjoyed the read, all very interesting, you may end up with people begging you to make looms for them

Your door loom production got me thinking back about earlier door wiring topics

Nearly had a panic attacksmile

I did find a topic that includes some input from myself that mentions thin wall cable being thinner than PVC for doors. It just goes to show how easy it is to overlook something, have always known about thin wall being stiffer............Am pretty sure thin wall's still used for new vehicle door looms, the thing is have had nothing to do with mass produced vehicles for several years now

Had to look up your Audi S8 (D2), had forgotten all about them, used to have my car screaming every morning on the journey to work and a good friend of mine used to often scream past me in an Audi, I am almost certain it was an S8 D2, lovely car

Keep enjoying

Cheers