Help with Cerbera beginner questions

Help with Cerbera beginner questions

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Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Sunday 2nd June
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Hi All
I'm really interested it getting a Cerbera, to me its one of the most beautiful cars, that and the Tuscan.
However I'm not a exactly clued up as much as I should be, and was looking for as much advice as i can get.
to be honest I'm looking for a project, something to keep me busy, rebuild/fixing/ getting on the road. i saved up all year to purchase a kit car which has now fallen through.
I know there are books by Steve Heath for the S series, Wedge, Chim & Griff, is there anything similar for the Cerbera to help me get a good understand about the car?
Grateful if anyone is aware of any cheap Cerebers going. i have contact a few on autotrader & PistonHeads but it appears theses were very old adverts.
i'm swaying more to the 4.5 engine types, but as above i not know much yet.
Greatful for any help or advice

Byker28i

62,874 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd June
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Whereabouts are you.
Easy to get a local owner to show you around, talk through things, or even contact the local TVR club.
It's easy to look through issues on the forum, but thats generally people talking through problems encountered, so can slant ownership slightly.

ukkid35

6,256 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd June
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13 years ago a very good friend of mine turned up with a Cerb, after many years of entertaining me at track days with lesser TVRs

It was a revelation, I just HAD to have one, so I bought the cheapest 4.5 Cerb, with the most deferred maintenance, ever sold with an MOT

It became a 'Rolling Restoration' or more accurately a really big project

Every year I try to take it to the Ring and give it a proper run out

Most years it very clearly tells me what I haven't fixed, most recently it's all about heat soak

But I always have fun, sort of, I always have a challenge

Most fun of all is when I take others for PAX rides, they are truly impressed with the sheer fun factor that a 26 year old car can deliver

Here's evidence


gruffalo

7,575 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th June
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They are bloody marvelous things, such huge fun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=3Gyd3Gzv3XzyVkPy&am...


Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Tuesday 4th June
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Thank you all
I’m based south Birmingham/Bromsgrove
I think I’ll join a TVR club also.
I’m going to view a Cerbera 4.2 this Saturday, can’t express enough how excited I am.
Love the youtube videos I think I have already seen a few of this red Cerbera on the ring.

camel_landy

4,968 posts

186 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Amazing cars but go into to it eyes-wide-open. These cars do not like to be parked up as a garage queen so low mileage examples can also come with their problems... Often around the clutch hydraulics.

Condition - Chassis is one of the main areas for problems with these. The outriggers rot from the top so you often don't notice until too late. They also rot in the areas close to the exhaust manifolds. It has to be a body-off job to get them fixed, so once you're that far in, you might as well bite the bullet and get everything under the body sorted. When 'fixed', get it sandblasted, zinc primed and powdercoated. Make sure you line the rails in the engine bay with heat reflective tape and ceramic coat the manifolds.

There are a number of threads on chassis restorations (including mine) as well as a how-to guide on lifting.

Engines - The SP6 is a great engine and if rebuilt by Jason (Str8Six) or Dom (Powers), it should be relatively trouble free. With the V8s, don't worry about the numbers as both the 4.2 & 4..5 can cause major trouser soiling moments. Either way, parts supply is 'challenging' and even more so for the V8s due to the fewer numbers.

Anyway, those are the biggies to be going on with. smile

M

Byker28i

62,874 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Don't just buy the cheapest - there are well sorted ones available. Beware the buy the first one you see biggrin

Chassis - corners of the outriggers especially. You can just feel the top with a finger on all four corners. Take a good bright torch/inspection light. Check for leaks underneath, rear diff, engine/gearbox joint for rear engine seal. Steering rack...

Look at the servicing record and who did it. MOT history obviously.
Any upgrades, money spent? General overall condition

Not many leaks on these but check under the carpet in the passenger footwell where the ECU is and drivers footwell for any signs of water

Don't worry about mileage specifically, these like to be driven.

Any owner close who could look with you?

FarmyardPants

4,136 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th June
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Jenson87 said:
Thank you all
I’m based south Birmingham/Bromsgrove
I think I’ll join a TVR club also.
I’m going to view a Cerbera 4.2 this Saturday, can’t express enough how excited I am.
Love the youtube videos I think I have already seen a few of this red Cerbera on the ring.
If the vendor starts the car from cold, expect it to sound tappety - this is normal, in fact if it doesn’t then the valve clearances could be too tight. After 2 or 3 minutes it should quieten down. Pops and bangs on the overrun are standard smile


Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Wednesday 5th June
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Thank you all, really appreciate the advice. great community.
I'm seeing something this week and will report back.

ukkid35

6,256 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th June
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camel_landy said:
Amazing cars but go into to it eyes-wide-open. These cars do not like to be parked up as a garage queen so low mileage examples can also come with their problems... Often around the clutch hydraulics.

Condition - Chassis is one of the main areas for problems with these. The outriggers rot from the top so you often don't notice until too late. They also rot in the areas close to the exhaust manifolds. It has to be a body-off job to get them fixed, so once you're that far in, you might as well bite the bullet and get everything under the body sorted. When 'fixed', get it sandblasted, zinc primed and powdercoated. Make sure you line the rails in the engine bay with heat reflective tape and ceramic coat the manifolds.

There are a number of threads on chassis restorations (including mine) as well as a how-to guide on lifting.

Engines - The SP6 is a great engine and if rebuilt by Jason (Str8Six) or Dom (Powers), it should be relatively trouble free. With the V8s, don't worry about the numbers as both the 4.2 & 4..5 can cause major trouser soiling moments. Either way, parts supply is 'challenging' and even more so for the V8s due to the fewer numbers.

Anyway, those are the biggies to be going on with. smile

M
This was great advice ten years ago, when we bought our cars, but I'm not sure it's correct now

I could be wrong, I'm not in the market now, I have no intention to sell my car, but I think things have changed

camel_landy

4,968 posts

186 months

Wednesday 5th June
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ukkid35 said:
I could be wrong, I'm not in the market now, I have no intention to sell my car, but I think things have changed
Weeellll... Unless they've been rebuilt, the chassis are still going to be rotting and parts for the engines are becoming even more scarce. But over the past 10yrs, we've had more of them rebuilt.

IMO - The advice is the same but thanks to the community knowledge, we're getting better at keeping these things on the road.

M

Byker28i

62,874 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th June
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FarmyardPants said:
Jenson87 said:
Thank you all
I’m based south Birmingham/Bromsgrove
I think I’ll join a TVR club also.
I’m going to view a Cerbera 4.2 this Saturday, can’t express enough how excited I am.
Love the youtube videos I think I have already seen a few of this red Cerbera on the ring.
If the vendor starts the car from cold, expect it to sound tappety - this is normal, in fact if it doesn’t then the valve clearances could be too tight. After 2 or 3 minutes it should quieten down. Pops and bangs on the overrun are standard smile
Thats on the original cams. My new ones have slightly different profile so I don't get that now, however good point to note.

Byker28i

62,874 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th June
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So.... did you see a Cerbera?

Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Sunday 9th June
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Yes, I have brought the project Cerbera from Jason at Str8six, with the 4.2 engine.
Going to get the engine sorted/rebuilt
And get the car as fresh as can be.
Plans are spider alloys, mk2 lights, and I would like to get it resprayed some type of green colour.
The underside was in great condition not a spot of rust in site, outriggers replaced 4 years ago.
It was the best I can currently afford
Can’t express how excited I am
Props to Str8six for all the many questions I had.
I was at coffee and chrome today there was 4 amazing looking Cerberas there.
Hopefully they belong to great people here?

Robscim

808 posts

259 months

Sunday 9th June
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Excellent!! Welcome the the Mad House!! hehe

Rob

Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Sunday 9th June
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Cheers Buddy smile

camel_landy

4,968 posts

186 months

Monday 10th June
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Jenson87 said:
Yes, I have brought the project Cerbera from Jason at Str8six, with the 4.2 engine.
Excellent... I'm glad someone has as I kept looking at it and wondering how I could make space for it. hehe

M

Byker28i

62,874 posts

220 months

Monday 10th June
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Jenson87 said:
Yes, I have brought the project Cerbera from Jason at Str8six, with the 4.2 engine.
Going to get the engine sorted/rebuilt
And get the car as fresh as can be.
Plans are spider alloys, mk2 lights, and I would like to get it resprayed some type of green colour.
The underside was in great condition not a spot of rust in site, outriggers replaced 4 years ago.
It was the best I can currently afford
Can’t express how excited I am
Props to Str8six for all the many questions I had.
I was at coffee and chrome today there was 4 amazing looking Cerberas there.
Hopefully they belong to great people here?
Good stuff, welcome to the club biggrin

FarmyardPants

4,136 posts

221 months

Monday 10th June
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Congrats OP! We look forward to your questions smile

Jenson87

Original Poster:

9 posts

1 month

Monday 10th June
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Thanks all
Yes i will apologies now, I will have many questions