Engine rebuild

Engine rebuild

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thatdude

2,437 posts

89 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Good point.

Enough of this Lambo stuff, they'll still be around in 10 years time but an Mk1 Focus? A friend of mine just scrapped his, surely as time goes on remaining examples are to be coveted!


Blacklemming

18 posts

67 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Update please

voicey

2,388 posts

149 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I just wanted to put a post up to publicly say thank you to Ricky of RE Performance. I was asked by one of my trade clients to rebuild a 5.0 engine and reached out to Ricky with some specific technical questions that I couldn't find answers for. He was unbelievably helpful and went way beyond my expectations to assist me. I have no reservations in recommending him.

4321go

Original Poster:

565 posts

149 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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(Hello! And welcome to DIY SOS......)

Oh dear!!

I really am sorry! I’m amazed and flattered at the kind words so many of you wrote about this thread over its course. Thank you. And I’ve left it hanging for nine months. Mea culpa! But please allow me to blame some of it on the strange days we find ourselves in? As a Heathrow-based shorthaul pilot, I’ve been a little underemployed of late, so I’ve had to find ways to keep myself occupied. Not least of which was to finally tackle the decrepit living-room ceiling by completely renovating the bedroom above (as you do).





(The second of those was taken this morning. All my own work so far, but I’m having a professional chippie lay the oak floor. It’s too dear for me to cock up!!) That’s rather taken over, but it really is time that I tidied up here..........

.....not that there’s much left to write.

The “engine tins” on the pre-LP cars are horrid. Really flimsy plastic mouldings, which become fragile with heat and age. So, ideal for an engine bay! Mine looked terrible. And the incomplete set of tolerably-decent second-hand ones that I’d acquired from fleabay over the years weren’t very much better. New plastics are available from Lambo, but they’re expensive and will only go the same way as the parts that they’re replacing. Carbon fibre aftermarket items were available back in the day, but they’re now rare and even more expensive. Or I could take a gamble and buy (still pricey) Chinese carbon?

And then I stumbled across a Polish company called FGP-Stuff ( https://www.fgp-stuff.eu/ ). Now THIS is an interesting outfit. The core business of the parent company is a manufacturer of glass fibre swimming pool and pond liners! But somebody (well, probably the boss) is a Lambo nut. I assume that making pattern parts came first, but now they do both servicing and full rebuilds! But glass fibre pattern parts they do. The engine tins are both very affordable (c£300 for the set of three) and much more durable than the original, brittle plastic. They DID require a little fettling, but look very smart and frame the repainted intake plenum beautifully. There’s a one-page thread in the Gallardo sub-section, here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

The downside of sourcing these from Poland was going to be the shipping costs, so I chose to kill two birds with the same very large, very heavy packing crate......



After 14 years/106,000 miles or use, my windscreen was rather worn. Quite literally! It wasn’t the dozens of minute chips; they were hardly noticeable. It was the micro-scratches arched across the screen by hundreds of thousands of passes of the wiper blades. Fine most of the time, in a low winter sun you could barely see out.

Cribbing the prices from the thread linked to above, when I went looking for a replacement screen last year, OE from Lambo (exclusive of shipping-on from Eurospares or Pangbourne or wherever) was about £2700. There’s a pattern screen available, identical in every respect bar the screen-printed “Lamborghini” in the bottom corner, for about a grand. Eurospares wanted £895 for the screen and then over £100 on top to deliver it from Essex to Swindon (which is probably about right!). But FGP also offered the same pattern screen for €949, which was £832 at the time. They too were quoting about £100 to build a crate and ship it to the UK, but that would still be cheaper than buying one from here and the engine tins could be shipped in the same crate. Job jobbed (as a mate of mine says, irritatingly!).



Finally, wouldn’t it be nice to be able to actually SEE all of this work? I’m not even sure that the glass engine cover was an option when my car was built (late 2005)? Either way, mine didn’t have one and I wasn’t fussed. And then one came up on eBay.......

.......not only complete (spoiler, spoiler motor, air vents, internal plastic covers), which is pretty-much unique among the few available on eBay within Europe, but also in the correct, unmarked (!!) Caelum Blue. AND it was also the last-of-the-line item from the LP560 coupe. That was the only coupe that had the same spoiler as the spyders, with both rear view camera AND hi-level brake light incorporated into the spoiler.

The asking price was too high to justify. So I made a REALLY cheeky offer. Which wasn’t laughed at TOO loudly. Upping it slightly resulted in the seller flying from Uppsala with MY new engine cover in the hold, packed inside the old packaging for a 65” LCD television! I’d already told him that it’d be WAY too big for any sort of luggage allowance, but apparently the SAS ground staff at Stockholm know him; he recently flew to Tokyo with both the front and rear bumpers from a Gallardo, again somehow claiming them to be “luggage”!



My car was also pre-rear-view camera too, although I’d had one incorporated into the rear grill when I’d changed the awful Audi RNS ICE unit for a 7” Pioneer unit. Ricky did the research and was able to hook the Lambo camera into the Pioneer loom, complete with a connector so that the engine cover can be easily removed. The loom was also modified (seamlessly) to power the hi-level brake light too.



And that was it. Car complete.

Thread finished.


Nobody would be interested to read about how it all goes, would they!

David_T

38 posts

42 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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That was an amazing bit of luck on the new engine cover. You must have been super pleased.

The paintwork to the bodywork looks great after the detailing, certainly not like the car's done 106,000 plus miles.

Did I miss any feedback on how the engine felt after Ricky's total re-build? Obviously with such an extensive re-build it can only be a distant memory of how it used to be.

Congratulations on the completion and thanks for all the previous updates.

Trev450

6,020 posts

134 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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What a result. You must be chuffed to bits.

I saw your car when I was at Ricky's last week and I have to say it looks superb, and that is irrespective of the mileage.

GregK2

1,442 posts

108 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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The update was worth the wait!... Now give us more! biggrin

ricky.rep

14 posts

39 months

Saturday 21st November 2020
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Thank you for the update Simon, aka Captain Tea Boy as he has come to be known! 😘



We will have to upload some links from my YouTube channel to the car running in the dyno!

Glad everyone has been enjoying the thread!

I am going to have to get Simon to author the thread on my new McLaren engine rebuild!!

Cheers Ricky

spikeyhead

12,170 posts

159 months

Saturday 21st November 2020
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Thank you OP for a delightful thread, it's been a great read.

4321go

Original Poster:

565 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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What?

Really?

After twelve pages of honing, decking and rifle files, are you honestly content for me to finish on a post about glass fibre engine bay trim panels? Is GregK2 the only one who felt short changed? This is Pistonheads, not Max Power! Does nobody want to know if it was worth it?

Well!! Sod you all!! I’m going to tell you anyway, and you’ll just have to like it.

But firstly: “worth it”?

I elected at the start of this blog to lay out all of the costs as they came. And I think that I also agreed to run a totaliser at the end? Well...... I’m not going to! I DID tell you all of the major hardware costs as they were incurred. And the cost of specialist engineering work has also been detailed. You can go back and tot them up for yourself if you really need to. I’ve added several pages of receipts to the already-bulging history file(s) of this car (the parenthesis are because I’m already well into my second folder of invoices!). And they detail everything, so I could tot them all up and present you with a figure for the cost of this rebuild. But it would include several thousands of pounds worth of unique-to-Lamborghini oil hoses. And some VERY expensive gear clusters. And the labour to rebuild the gearbox and fit the windscreen and polish the scratches out of the rear lamp clusters, etc.

The resulting figure wouldn’t be the cost of AN engine rebuild, but of THIS engine rebuild.....and gearbox rebuild.......and fitting and wiring a new engine cover....and.....and....and.....

I had a figure in my head of about £20k to do this, long before I decided to bite the bullet. And it turned out that that was a figure that Ricky agreed with. So the one outstanding question is, “How much labour?” And I can’t realistically answer that. Sorry! but there were just too many extraneous jobs included in the project to be able to extract the engine removal/strip/rebuild/reinstallation from the final total. What I will say is that I thought the final bill for the labour MORE than reasonable. I’m certain that had Ricky kept a strict clock running on every hour spent on my car by himself or Karl or Matt, then my final bill would have been much, MUCH greater. Once again, thank you Ricky! And also to all of you who steered me towards him almost exactly two years ago!!!

However, mostly I’m not going to tot it all up because I don’t want to scare myself. But “worth it”? I should coco!!

Coming up.........

Running in, dynamometers and a jaded old Lamborghini technician can only manage to splutter, “Wow!”

RumbleOfThunder

3,175 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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ricky.rep said:
Thank you for the update Simon, aka Captain Tea Boy as he has come to be known! ??



We will have to upload some links from my YouTube channel to the car running in the dyno!

Glad everyone has been enjoying the thread!

I am going to have to get Simon to author the thread on my new McLaren engine rebuild!!

Cheers Ricky
McLaren engine thread would be great!

ricky.rep

14 posts

39 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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RumbleOfThunder said:
McLaren engine thread would be great!
I was planning on that!

I have some videos coming up on our new M838T engine I’ve got!

Now......I just need to find an author!!

Cheers Ricky

TCruise

191 posts

53 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Simon

Please can you provide a bit of detail on the Pioneer unit, in particular the functionality and improvements (if you wouldn't mind sharing costs as well, though no worries if not)

Thank you

Raven Flyer

1,617 posts

186 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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TCruise said:
Simon

Please can you provide a bit of detail on the Pioneer unit, in particular the functionality and improvements (if you wouldn't mind sharing costs as well, though no worries if not)

Thank you
Probably the same one we put into our R8s.

https://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_m-pioneer...

Pretty sure there is now a model upgrade, but still all the same size.


SamuliS

28 posts

165 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Great re-read over xmas days. Congratulations of finishing the long build.